***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

The Fixer

I guess this isn't the best team ever after all. maybe next year people will look at the big picture, rather than just the virtually meaningless regular season record.

but 'we' won 102 games!!!

Fucking gay...

also, ryan howard sucks. has for last few years. and his contract WILL be the worst thing ever (the threads from when he signed that abortion of a deal are gold...idiots actually liked that signing at the time!!!!!!!!)

the manager is a fucking moron too. your GM gives you cliff lee for huge money and you use him ONCE in a playoff series that went the distance. great, vance worley got used as much. lee looked great warming up in the bullpen tonight though. I'd fire his ass. larussa anally raped him in this series

make fun of me. call me an ass hole. whatever. fuck everyone because I was right about all the shit I complained about all year.

also, the crowd sucked tonight. bandwagon pussies

cowboypjfan

You can't even fall back on the Eagles because they stink too!

Last night was a great baseball game even tho I'm usually bored watching mlb. I kept thinking someone was going to deliver a big hit for the Phils. Victorino, Raul or someone...

2 years in a row Howard was the last out? I think he's a bum in October..

Ledbetterman10

The Fixer wrote:

I guess this isn't the best team ever after all. maybe next year people will look at the big picture, rather than just the virtually meaningless regular season record.

but 'we' won 102 games!!!

Fucking gay...

also, ryan howard sucks. has for last few years. and his contract WILL be the worst thing ever (the threads from when he signed that abortion of a deal are gold...idiots actually liked that signing at the time!!!!!!!!)

the manager is a fucking moron too. your GM gives you cliff lee for huge money and you use him ONCE in a playoff series that went the distance. great, vance worley got used as much. lee looked great warming up in the bullpen tonight though. I'd fire his ass. larussa anally raped him in this series

make fun of me. call me an ass hole. whatever. fuck everyone because I was right about all the shit I complained about all year.

also, the crowd sucked tonight. bandwagon pussies

Fucking cry about it you little baby. So you favorite baseball team got beat. Boo-hoo. You talk about "bandwagon pussies" but I'd rather deal with them than you people who feel entitled to a World Championship every year. Newsflash: THEY'RE THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES. Be happy they at least contend these days. From 1984-2006, they made the playoffs once and that was a total fluke. At least you've had something to root for when Bowa took over (the playoffs) and now with Charlie you have championships to root for. Yeah he was out-managed (by an all-time great manager) and yeah Howard is garbage, but I'll take this loss (as much as it sucks) over a 70 win season with Francona like we used to have....if you were even watching then.

Ledbetterman10

crazypjfan wrote:

You can't even fall back on the Eagles because they stink too!

Last night was a great baseball game even tho I'm usually bored watching mlb. I kept thinking someone was going to deliver a big hit for the Phils. Victorino, Raul or someone...

2 years in a row Howard was the last out? I think he's a bum in October..

I had no confidence in anyone getting a big hit. I called a one run Cards victory in game 5 the moment game 4 ended. As for Howard. He was amazingly bad in this series but so was Pence, Ibanez, Palanco, and Ruiz so it's not all on him.

DragonsAfter3or4

Glad to see my Cardinals advance baby!!!!!!!!!! Have a feeling tho this might be the end of the line. Brew crew might put a beatin on em. In addition, those dumb asses may let Puljos go. If they let that happen, this St. Louis fan of the last 30 years may have to drive over to the front office and knock the shiat out of somebody!

gimmesometruth27

Cliffy6745 wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

He did. He told the print reporters that he will have surgery and that he felt a pop when it happened. Maybe the TV crews didn't stick around long enough for him to show.

They are saying surgery already? Jesus, good thing his contract kicks in this offseason. Not only did he decline but he could have possibly had a serious injury, BEFORE it was necessary to extend him. How do GM's get paid that much money and make such horrible decisions?

as an athletic trainer who works with sports medicine orthopedic surgeouns i can add a little light to the injury discussion...

yes if the achiles tendon is torn you have to fix it surgically very soon. when a tendon is torn the muscle that it is attached to the tendon shortens or "retracts" and the longer you wait the more it retracts and the more retracted the tendon is it makes for an exponentially more difficult surgical repair and the potential complications are multiplied. these include lost range of motion in the ankle, lost ability to push off when walking and running, and depending on which ankle it is, it can affect his hitting and the fluidity of his weight transfer or follow through in his swing.

the things howard has going for him if it is an achilles rupture are these:
1. he is still relatively young. the older you are when you rupture your achilles the more complications you have. the younger you are the better your recovery is.

2. he presumably does not smoke or use steroids. smoking inhibits tissue healing and makes failure of the repair more likely. many times the soft tissue of a chronic 30 year smoker is too poor to even attempt to repair. using steroids for prolonged periods actually weakens tendons making them more prone to tear and more diffucult to heal any surgical repairs. use of steroids, both anabolic and the anti-inflammatory type such as cortisone, can make tendons weak and prone to rupture over time. this is why doctors do not do cortisone injections into major tendons like the achilles, patellar or quadriceps tendon, etc etc....the surgeons i work with refuse to do soft tissue repairs on smokers or steroid abusers because there is too much risk of poor outcomes and then potential lawsuits against teh doctors for failed repairs. they will not assume that risk for what they get paid per surgery.

3. he has access to the best surgeons, and if his are not comfortable making that repair then they will refer him somewhere that is comfortable doing it.

recovery time for an elite athlete with a torn achilles is at least 6 months, and many of them do not regain their prior level of function, so this can be a career shortening injury.... so hopefully his is not torn.

neilybabes86

it was a good year regardless....

Indifference71

If the Eagles lose tomorrow, we may have to declare a state of emergency in the city of Philadelphia.

Phantom Pain

Indifference71 wrote:

If the Eagles lose tomorrow, we may have to declare a state of emergency in the city of Philadelphia.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=8384090

Anyone heard from Jeags??
:shock:

Phantom Pain

Not much else to say other than this team is a disgrace

I haven't felt this pissed off since 2004 TB-EAGLES

I feel sorry for Doc

I Didn't even see Howard go down I was so phuckin mad I changed the Channel as soon as the out happened

Phantom Pain

The Fixer wrote:

I guess this isn't the best team ever after all. maybe next year people will look at the big picture, rather than just the virtually meaningless regular season record.

but 'we' won 102 games!!!

Fucking gay...

also, ryan howard sucks. has for last few years. and his contract WILL be the worst thing ever (the threads from when he signed that abortion of a deal are gold...idiots actually liked that signing at the time!!!!!!!!)

the manager is a fucking moron too. your GM gives you cliff lee for huge money and you use him ONCE in a playoff series that went the distance. great, vance worley got used as much. lee looked great warming up in the bullpen tonight though. I'd fire his ass. larussa anally raped him in this series

make fun of me. call me an ass hole. whatever. fuck everyone because I was right about all the shit I complained about all year.

also, the crowd sucked tonight. bandwagon pussies

When your last big hit comes from Ben Francisco you're in trouble

This team refuses to change their approach at the plate and work pitchers

Guys like Skip Schumacher Manage to have 10 pitch AB'S?????

Biggest choke ever?

Wobbie

Phantom Pain wrote:

Anyone heard from Jeags??
:shock:

the possibilities....not pretty.

i'm not gonna rag on my philly buddies especially since I wanted TLR the fuck out of there :x

pretty unbelievable result for me. the cards were hot and you should have laid down for the braves (altho cards probably would have beaten them the next day) but I still figured you'd beat them. here's what I came up with:

other than werth, this is pretty much the same team from 2008, is it not? if we graphed the years and results, it would be a line...running straight downhill at 45 degrees.

2008 - won WS
2009 - lost WS
2010 - lost NLCS
2011 - lost NLDS

I remember saying the 2010 phillies were better at EVERY position than my giants....maybe I was living in the past. the 2008 phillies were better at every position than the 2010 giants (except for catcher and chooch is pretty good). your boys just got old. victorino, ruiz, ibanez, polanco, etc. USED to get it done. not so much anymore, it doesn't seem. pedestrian numbers from pedestrian players....too old, too. you guys have the pitching but it's gonna take some new bats in the lineup to get this done next year IMHO.

sorry you guys lost . where do I go now for my entertainment?

Phantom Pain

One of my buddy's on FB posted this :

Dear Phillies,
You are a bunch of pathetic chokers. I wasted my entire summer watching you assholes to have it culminate into that awful performance last night. $50 million came up small in Lee and Howard. Polly was a waste of time and Chooch did absolutely nothing. In addition, I need all of these stupid people to stop telling me that at least we have the Eagles. Here's a news flash....I DON'T CARE...SHUT UP! The Eagles haven't won anything in my lifetime and Andy Reid is a fat, overmatched jack hole who couldn't adjust his way out of a paper bag. When they get rid of that useless moron maybe I'll go back to caring. For now, let me be angry because the best team in baseball, the one that actually has 2 championships in my lifetime, lost to a team they were better than for the second year in a row. Lastly, Jimmy Rollins.....SHUT YOUR STUPID MOUTH! Maybe if you scumbags would get more than 3 hits in game 5 of the NLDS and not get shut out, maybe you'd hear a lot more noise. Ohh, I forgot, we're supposed to scream and go nuts for that pathetic performance last night. Hey idiot, maybe if you stopped tweeting and started hitting you wouldn't be where you are now. It's going to be a long, cold winter now thanks to you but hey...we won 102 games....who cares! God, I wish I could punch everyone of you in your stupid faces. Howard, why don't you just stand at first base when you're up to bat? You're already so far from the plate anyway. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Cliffy6745

Stay here rob, I have a feeling this thread is going to be pretty entertaining once the hangovers wear off.

neilybabes86

immm gonna have alot of good reading to catch up on...

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Cliffy6745 wrote:

Stay here rob, I have a feeling this thread is going to be pretty entertaining once the hangovers wear off.

RW81233

I told you to fucking lay down against the Braves. Even if you just lose the last one it forces a playoff so that Carpenter can only go one game. As much as I hate Bellytits he would never have let that opportunity get away. Best case you play Cards in a short series with them only having Carpenter once, and worst case is you play the fucking D-Bags who would have been no match for you. Absolutely horrible, on top of that you got $120M going to a guy who might never play (well) again. Can we start the Pujy to the Phils rumors yet? Another big amount going to a second baseman who has no lower body strength, and a SS who only won MVP because he's the NL's version of Ichiro, swings at everything, and accumulated counting stats like you wouldn't believe. Now he's old and broken down. With the excellent pitching you have the Phils will always be there, and that's something, but at some point you gotta get younger at the plate and with these huge contracts to J-Roll, Utley, and the 1B formerly known as Ryan Howard it's not gonna get better quickly. I'm excited to be in the NLCS, but was actually really looking forward to the back and forth even if/when the Brewers took the loss. Now I gotta deal with this fuckface LaRussa, and that crybaby bitch Pujols (I hope Tony Punch "one punches" him like he claims he could) for a 10 days.

RW81233

I do wonder why the jilted Rangers owner hasn't sent out a tweet about how Cliff Lee can't do things the easy way, like that dickbag from the Cavs did to LeBron.

Ledbetterman10

RW81233 wrote:

I do wonder why the jilted Rangers owner hasn't sent out a tweet about how Cliff Lee can't do things the easy way, like that dickbag from the Cavs did to LeBron.

Cause the jilted Rangers owner's team made it farther than Lee's team whereas the Cavs will never make it farther than Lebron's team.

The Juggler

thank god for '08. if it wasn't for that, these past few years would have the distinct stench of an andy reid led eagles run. actually it's starting to feel that way regardless.

maybe i'm getting older, maybe it's because of '08, i dunno, but this doesn't hurt quite as much as i thought it would. having been to my fair share of philly sports disappointments in person, tampa still feels much worse. dead silence walking out of the vet after that one. last night there were still clowns yelling dumb shit to no one in particular. even saw people leaving in the top of ninth. frauds.

enjoyable season till the end. oh well. at least my liver is spared another year.



go eagles....oh boy :? :problem: