Thinking of Getting Out

Cocaine_NosejobCocaine_Nosejob Posts: 1,744
edited October 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
So...here's the deal. I'm engaged and I'm not sure I want to be. I'm starting to think it's crazy to be getting married at 25.
I've recently made a lot of huge changes in my life...new city, new job, returning to school, quitting smoking, and changing my circle of friends - I've been taken advantage of by people I thought were close too many times, and I've given them too many chances, so I've left them behind and have started again.
My fiance doesn't take advantage of me at all, but I've started feeling he's having a negative impact on me. Every change I make in my life, he's asks 'why?' like it's pointless. "I hate my job, I'm getting nothing out of it. I think I'm going back to school so I can change my field." "Seriously? Wouldn't that take, like 2 years or something?' I mean come on, how about a little support here. Sorry I'm not interested in keeping a job that I hate in a city that I hate just because the money's good and the rent is cheap. I don't think that money is everything and he does.
He's fine with staying in the same place in life forever, but I need a change of scenery once in a while.
And it feels like I'm starting to fall into place again, but I want to fall into place where I want to be...not where someone else wants me to be.
There's just so much that I've noticed coming to the surface lately that's been bothering me.
Kids is another point of contention between us. I hate...REALLY hate...kids. It's just never going to happen. But he says what everyone has said my whole life....that'll change....it's different when it's your own. But no, kids is one thing I'm not willing to bend on.
Sorry to rant, but I need opinions from people that don't know us....is this cold feet like most people tell me, or something more?
"The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

"The world fascinates me."

"Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

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  • well only you can answer your last question. Right now, I'm in a bit of a funk... and I could probably write a post even longer than yours... but I know it's just a funk. There've been times though when I've KNOWN it was time to get out :o How long have you been feeling like this? It's a shit feeling to fall into line :o you feel like you're giving up on yourself! :(
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • One thing though, I KNOW it's tough... but if you're feeling it's time to get out, at least TALK to him about all this stuff. Have you REALLY told him about the support you need in what you want to do? Or have you just dropped hints or said nothing at all? Talking this stuff out really CAN help :o
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    What did you love about him to get engaged in the first place?
    What do you love about him now?
    Do you see yourself spending the rest of you life with him?
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  • Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    One thing though, I KNOW it's tough... but if you're feeling it's time to get out, at least TALK to him about all this stuff. Have you REALLY told him about the support you need in what you want to do? Or have you just dropped hints or said nothing at all? Talking this stuff out really CAN help :o

    Totally agree!
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  • Totally agree!
    well I kinda had something like that tonight... I was thinking lotsa negative stuff and didn't wanna talk about it cos I knew it would go away... but he pushed the issue and I felt soooo much better after saying what I needed to say. He just didn't know I'd let something build into an issue.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • One thing though, I KNOW it's tough... but if you're feeling it's time to get out, at least TALK to him about all this stuff. Have you REALLY told him about the support you need in what you want to do? Or have you just dropped hints or said nothing at all? Talking this stuff out really CAN help :o

    I have, many times. It's always perfect for a short while after, but then it goes right back to the same problems.
    He's always done that, he says whatever he needs to in order to make things good, but things are safe he goes back to how he was...or whatever's easier.
    He doesn't understand that I'm looking for the easy way out, I'm looking for an honest answer. I'm not the type of person who wants someone to tell me what I want to hear, I want to hear the truth.

    Edit: NOT looking for the easy way out lol
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • What did you love about him to get engaged in the first place?
    What do you love about him now?
    Do you see yourself spending the rest of you life with him?

    I love all the same things about him now that I did then, it's just that now the bad things are getting worse.
    I thought I saw myself with him for life. I think that's the problem, I can see myself with the him from 2 years ago, but not the him today.
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • I have, many times. It's always perfect for a short while after, but then it goes right back to the same problems.
    He's always done that, he says whatever he needs to in order to make things good, but things are safe he goes back to how he was...or whatever's easier.
    He doesn't understand that I'm looking for the easy way out, I'm looking for an honest answer. I'm not the type of person who wants someone to tell me what I want to hear, I want to hear the truth.
    Oh ok :( but I don't think anyone HERE is going to tell you that you want out! I know I think it's what you want to hear but that would be irresponsible of any of us who have never met you. If it's what YOU really want then you're gonna have to take those steps and we'll be here for ya as much as we can :( but answer BD's questions first :o What do ya wanna do if you leave? Where do ya wanna go?
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,390
    from here it doesn't sound good. the tell you what you want to hear then same old same old. that is something that , more than likely, will not change.But , hey wtf do i know I'm a thickheaded, ignorant to my wifes needs male!






    Is the Big Day coming soon?
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  • I'm not expecting anyone to tell me what to do. I just know that there are a lot of married people here that might have gone through the same thing and might have insight.
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • I'm not expecting anyone to tell me what to do. I just know that there are a lot of married people here that might have gone through the same thing and might have insight.
    that's ok. I've gone through a lot of the changes you have recently also and it can be very very stressful. Even though I KNOW I made the right choice I find myself crying for no reason, taking it out on other people, getting frustrated and even blaming HIM for stuff that I know is irrational :D . It's not me at all and I hate being like this... but there are more big changes coming up and it's them stressing me out more than anything. After stuff like this we need more attention than usual and men just find that hard to take in :o
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • EvilMerlinEvilMerlin Posts: 1,865
    So...here's the deal. I'm engaged and I'm not sure I want to be. I'm starting to think it's crazy to be getting married at 25.
    I've recently made a lot of huge changes in my life...new city, new job, returning to school, quitting smoking, and changing my circle of friends - I've been taken advantage of by people I thought were close too many times, and I've given them too many chances, so I've left them behind and have started again.
    My fiance doesn't take advantage of me at all, but I've started feeling he's having a negative impact on me. Every change I make in my life, he's asks 'why?' like it's pointless. "I hate my job, I'm getting nothing out of it. I think I'm going back to school so I can change my field." "Seriously? Wouldn't that take, like 2 years or something?' I mean come on, how about a little support here. Sorry I'm not interested in keeping a job that I hate in a city that I hate just because the money's good and the rent is cheap. I don't think that money is everything and he does.
    He's fine with staying in the same place in life forever, but I need a change of scenery once in a while.
    And it feels like I'm starting to fall into place again, but I want to fall into place where I want to be...not where someone else wants me to be.
    There's just so much that I've noticed coming to the surface lately that's been bothering me.
    Kids is another point of contention between us. I hate...REALLY hate...kids. It's just never going to happen. But he says what everyone has said my whole life....that'll change....it's different when it's your own. But no, kids is one thing I'm not willing to bend on.
    Sorry to rant, but I need opinions from people that don't know us....is this cold feet like most people tell me, or something more?

    I'm in, well....pretty much the same position as you are right now.

    I made a post recently about going back to school. I've just been going about things in a different order than you. I've gotten myself away from a girl everyone has been trying to talk me into marrying. We still have a great friendship, and she understands where I'm at in life(which helps tremendously, so she quit pressuring me finally, and we just kind of drifted relationship wise) and everyone kept telling me, "Well if you're just going to hang around, why not marry her already. It's not going to hurt anything. You've got benefits, she could get insurance finally, she could have those kids she's always wanted, blah blah blah, etc etc etc." And I was sick of hearing, "Well once the child is born, you'll totally change your mind and realize that you were 100% wrong and did want those kids. The struggles are worth it."

    Basically I was just sick and tired of anyone telling me what they wanted me to do, and questioning anything I wanted in my life, as I'm also thinking about quitting my career, it's just not right for me, has taken me away from those I'm close to, and I'm over-worked. I couldn't care any less about the money and how 'I'm set for life.'

    Sometimes we just need to jump into the deep end and learn to swim all over again. I'm realizing that is some of the best blind advice I've gotten from here. Gave up the friends I had that were shitty, spent many lonely nights, but it made me better. Broke off a relationship that wasn't going in the direction I felt I needed to be going in with it, broke it off, hard again, but I'm stronger.

    The way I see it, many of us know some of the things we want in life, not all of them yet, but enough to keep us going. So instead of always dreaming about what we want for ourselves, or trying to settle to be happy and just get used to how things are...why not go and stride for what we want while we still can? We're only hurting ourselves if we don't.

    If we try and fail? Well, we won't be in any worse of a position that we're in now. We just see where we went wrong, make changes that we're happy with, that are feasible, and move on from there and then get going.
  • GraySaturdayGraySaturday Posts: 2,878
    Just like I told me friend the other day. DO NOT marry anyone that has faults that you cannot live with. You can't change people, and if you cannot live with somethings... it's probably not going to change.

    Sure, some things change because a person realizes they don't like it in themselves.. but they have to change it.


    Also, seriously.. very seriously.. give thought to the children situation. Its so so SO important to marry someone who is on the same page as you with MAJOR issues like this one. If he thinks he is going to change you, and you are dead set on not having kids, then one of two things is going to happen. You'll either A. have them, and totally resent him.. or B. not have them and he'll totally resent you. Simple as that. If one partner feels pushed into something they wouldn't have normally done.. there is going to be issue. Its like that with Money, Kids, Location of where you live.. etc.. Major issues are just something that life partners have to be able to see eye to eye on.
  • Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    I'm not expecting anyone to tell me what to do. I just know that there are a lot of married people here that might have gone through the same thing and might have insight.
    Married twice.

    In both cases I asked myself right before the wedding was I doing the right thing.

    First case, lasted 6 months (But I got to see PEI). Horror.

    Second case, we are having our 10th anniversary in January and we have 3 kids. Love her more than anything and can't believe how lucky I am.

    Some of it has to do with my age and maturity level. Some of it was what I was trying to get out of it. I truly believe that to be happy in a marriage you have to be secure with yourself (and love yourself) and have to always think of the other person first (A successful marriage is when both people think of the other first).
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,390
    Married twice.

    In both cases I asked myself right before the wedding was I doing the right thing.

    First case, lasted 6 months (But I got to see PEI). Horror.

    Second case, we are having our 10th anniversary in January and we have 3 kids. Love her more than anything and can't believe how lucky I am.

    Some of it has to do with my age and maturity level. Some of it was what I was trying to get out of it. I truly believe that to be happy in a marriage you have to be secure with yourself (and love yourself) and have to always think of the other person first (A successful marriage is when both people think of the other first).
    I know it was meant for OP but THANKS! 1st for me and we're 9 months married this past sunday.
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  • mickeyrat wrote:
    from here it doesn't sound good. the tell you what you want to hear then same old same old. that is something that , more than likely, will not change.But , hey wtf do i know I'm a thickheaded, ignorant to my wifes needs male!






    Is the Big Day coming soon?

    Not really...April.
    I don't think you were being ignorant to her needs. You offered a solution and she didn't take it...her preogative. I know it gets frustrating saying the same thing over and over...I HATE doing that...but if that's what she needs then that's okay. I'm sure she'd do the same for you! :)
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • EvilMerlin wrote:
    Basically I was just sick and tired of anyone telling me what they wanted me to do, and questioning anything I wanted in my life, as I'm also thinking about quitting my career, it's just not right for me, has taken me away from those I'm close to, and I'm over-worked. I couldn't care any less about the money and how 'I'm set for life.'

    EXACTLY! I've done things and changed my life around for other people for so long, I just can't let it happen anymore. Not if I plan on ever actually having a life lol.

    EvilMerlin wrote:
    If we try and fail? Well, we won't be in any worse of a position that we're in now. We just see where we went wrong, make changes that we're happy with, that are feasible, and move on from there and then get going.

    That's totally me...I have the "If you reach for the moon and don't make it, you'll still land among the stars" complex.
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,390
    well you have some time to figure it out. Is it miserable now?Just don't make any hasty decisions.weigh the good and the bad and if the good is good then go for it.
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • EvilMerlinEvilMerlin Posts: 1,865
    EXACTLY! I've done things and changed my life around for other people for so long, I just can't let it happen anymore. Not if I plan on ever actually having a life lol.

    That's totally me...I have the "If you reach for the moon and don't make it, you'll still land among the stars" complex.

    And you should plan on having a life! Especially being in our mid twenties. Where we've still got energy, but we're starting to come across money to do things too, the best time to have a life! ;)

    Sometimes it feels good to know someone else is out there and you're not either completely alone, or totally insane. :)
  • Also, seriously.. very seriously.. give thought to the children situation. Its so so SO important to marry someone who is on the same page as you with MAJOR issues like this one. If he thinks he is going to change you, and you are dead set on not having kids, then one of two things is going to happen. You'll either A. have them, and totally resent him.. or B. not have them and he'll totally resent you. Simple as that. If one partner feels pushed into something they wouldn't have normally done.. there is going to be issue. Its like that with Money, Kids, Location of where you live.. etc.. Major issues are just something that life partners have to be able to see eye to eye on.

    That's part of what started this. He said that if it were up to him, he could go either way on the kids thing. Apparently he only wants kids because his mom is dead-set on us having them because she's not allowed to see her other grandchildren. Apparently her husband *Sean's step-dad* hit Sean's 4 year old niece.
    Good luck with that, even if I did have kids there's no way they'd be getting anywhere near it.
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • That's part of what started this. He said that if it were up to him, he could go either way on the kids thing. Apparently he only wants kids because his mom is dead-set on us having them because she's not allowed to see her other grandchildren. Apparently her husband *Sean's step-dad* hit Sean's 4 year old niece.
    Good luck with that, even if I did have kids there's no way they'd be getting anywhere near it.

    if you're 100% sure you don't ever want kids, tell him you're going in to get your tubes tied so you can be sure it'll never happen. see what kind of response you get.
    "Have you ever.........pooped a balloon?"
    ~D.K.S.
  • EvilMerlin wrote:
    And you should plan on having a life! Especially being in our mid twenties. Where we've still got energy, but we're starting to come across money to do things too, the best time to have a life! ;)

    Sometimes it feels good to know someone else is out there and you're not either completely alone, or totally insane. :)

    Haha...so true. I mentioned these probs to my best friend and she was like 'are you crazy? I'd do anything to be getting married. I don't even have a boyfriend. I hate sleeping alone."
    Seriously, I get where she was going, but I'm not looking for someone to share a bed with, there' more to it than that.
    And that seems to be the general consensus with people my age. "At least you're not alone.", but I think that you can have a thousand people in your life but essentially be alone. I'm not willing to settle for that.
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,390
    Haha...so true. I mentioned these probs to my best friend and she was like 'are you crazy? I'd do anything to be getting married. I don't even have a boyfriend. I hate sleeping alone."
    Seriously, I get where she was going, but I'm not looking for someone to share a bed with, there' more to it than that.
    And that seems to be the general consensus with people my age. "At least you're not alone.", but I think that you can have a thousand people in your life but essentially be alone. I'm not willing to settle for that.
    Good for you.

    Spent the better part of my life drunk or high and alone, But still beyond that I was waiting for the one who accepted me for me. Not for my wallet(wasn't much left anyway) but the important stuff, like the opposite of how i treated her tonight.Very blunt and to the point, really I wasn't fair to her at all.
    I waited til I got sober and found me to offer and was 39 when we did the do.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • EvilMerlinEvilMerlin Posts: 1,865
    Haha...so true. I mentioned these probs to my best friend and she was like 'are you crazy? I'd do anything to be getting married. I don't even have a boyfriend. I hate sleeping alone."
    Seriously, I get where she was going, but I'm not looking for someone to share a bed with, there' more to it than that.
    And that seems to be the general consensus with people my age. "At least you're not alone.", but I think that you can have a thousand people in your life but essentially be alone. I'm not willing to settle for that.

    I'll agree with you on the consensus of people our age. I'm 25 as well, and I had 4 buddies I all hung out with and kind of got left out of the crowd because I wasn't getting married. I just ultimately ended up not talking to them anymore because I was tired of the shun.

    I had a buddy tell me, "Why haven't you married Bri yet dude? And why does she never come out with us?(another problem I had with her...she wouldn't go out unless it was me and her alone.)"

    And I told him my reasons, and his response was, "We're not getting any younger dude, you need to quit being stupid."

    I seriously had no idea how to respond to that. It's just how it's seen through their eyes I guess and I'm not gonna change that, but wow, I was just shocked.

    And where I'm at in my life, right now, I can be in a crowd of 100 people, be the center of attention and on the inside I still feel lonely, disconnected and alone. So I know I'm not where I want to be yet. That's just who I am, and I'm done settling for feeling like that.

    Many people in their twenties suck. :p;)

    That's probably why I got along with older people so much better...but now they're at the point of getting married, so I'm losing them as well. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't at this stage. But it's all about to change. :D
  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    It sounds like you and him need to have a long talk. MY thoughts on this are that if there is any doubt then you shouldn't do it. Honestly too if he wants kids and you know you never want them then let him go so that he can find a woman who wants to have a family. I didn't mean that to sound harsh, sorry if it came across that way its just that having kids and not having them is such a big deal that it will only cause problems and unhappiness for you or him in time...and you both deserve happiness.
    "I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
  • EvilMerlin wrote:
    We're damned if we do, damned if we don't at this stage. But it's all about to change. :D

    God I hope so, lol.
    You seem to be pretty level-headed...I`m sure it`ll work out :)
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • EvilMerlinEvilMerlin Posts: 1,865
    God I hope so, lol.
    You seem to be pretty level-headed...I`m sure it`ll work out :)

    Level headed in the clouds apparently. :p

    Good luck to you, as you seem the same way. You're too smart to not figure this out for yourself.

    And don't cheat yourself either. :)
  • Second case, we are having our 10th anniversary in January and we have 3 kids. Love her more than anything and can't believe how lucky I am.quote]

    Wow! Super congrats on that! That`s amazing. You don`t hear enough stories like that these days.
    "The customer...is always...an ASSHOLE"

    "The world fascinates me."

    "Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you"

  • WhizbangWhizbang Posts: 1,314
    Haha...so true. I mentioned these probs to my best friend and she was like 'are you crazy? I'd do anything to be getting married. I don't even have a boyfriend. I hate sleeping alone."
    Seriously, I get where she was going, but I'm not looking for someone to share a bed with, there' more to it than that.
    And that seems to be the general consensus with people my age. "At least you're not alone.", but I think that you can have a thousand people in your life but essentially be alone. I'm not willing to settle for that.

    I've said it a few times on here - being alone is better than wishing you were. I feel a tinge of sadness for your friends who leave you with comments like "I'd give anything to be married".

    I got married at your age. It was "time", it was expected of me as a "normal" member of society. I had graduated college, had a "real" job, I was next in line. Don't get me wrong, I didn't jump at the first guy but I look back and I got married because...well...it was "time". Kids were part of the issue. I truly thought I wanted them and when it was "time", I flipped...realizing I had no desire for it...none. It was tough to admit that as society says "well, you'll change your mind once you have them" and lots of people view you as "abnormal" for not wanting children. Kids are great....just not for me. And I'm completely normal for saying that. Just took some soul searching alone to come to terms with it.

    Needless to say, I'm no longer married. We failed at our marriage by jumping into it without knowing ourselves or each other, failed by not working on it. If I had known then what I know now, I never would have got married then. I had no idea who I was, neither did he. I'm quite happy single, enjoy my life how I want to live it. If I find someone to share that with, great. If not, I'm definitely ok with that.

    No one here, including myself, will tell you what to do. Only you have that answer. If you don't like who you see in the mirror everyday (not what you see but WHO), come to terms with what you can and will change now and do it. If you don't, you won't like her any better married.
    believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.

    I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29

    Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
  • right enough of this pressure on 25 year olds to get married :eek: I'm 28 and only met my boyfriend last year. Nobody can say whether or not this is gonna last forever, who knows... but if it doesn't, I'm not gonna let ANYONE think I'm weird or abnormal for not being married... marriage isn't on the immediate agenda anyway.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
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