I just need to vent about stupid people in my family!

HushBull

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

"Charleton Heston - when he died- I believe he needed to." Are you kidding me???

... no.

U R A Crazy Breed

mdg164 wrote:

Oh, you are one of those nuts who think that 9-11 was an inside job, despite all the evidence to the contrary?

there is no "real" evidence to the contrary and if you believe the "official" 9-11 story then you are the one who is nuts.

you don't know what the fuck you're talking about so i suggest you educate yourself before joining the fray because if your going to spew that popular mechanics/history channel dis-information garbage you can tell it to someone else.

AmentsChick

Crazy Breed wrote:

there is no "real" evidence to the contrary and if you believe the "official" 9-11 story then you are the one who is nuts.

you don't know what the fuck you're talking about so i suggest you educate yourself before joining the fray because if your going to spew that popular mechanics/history channel dis-information garbage you can tell it to someone else.

Hi....Maybe could you elaborate? I'm curious as to what you're talking about?

U R A Crazy Breed

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

The other day they were talking about the NRA, the constitution and the right to bear arms and I overheard one say, "Charleton Heston - when he died- I believe he needed to." Are you kidding me???

yeah the idiots in this country have been brainwashed into thinking guns are bad and only the police should have them. morons with no clue of history or why the forefathers made the second amendment,and it's 2nd!! that's how important it is.

Hitler,Mao,Pol Pot,Stalin they all enforced gun control a few years before the genocide started.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344

"Gun bans don't disarm criminals, gun bans attract them." -- Walter Mondale, U.S. Ambassador to Japan, 4/20/94

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason, during Virginia's ratification convention, 1788

U R A Crazy Breed

AmentsChick wrote:

Hi....Maybe could you elaborate? I'm curious as to what you're talking about?

the 9-11 world trade center attacks.

AmentsChick

Crazy Breed wrote:

the 9-11 world trade center attacks.

LOL! Yeah, I assumed that much. I just wanted to hear what you had to say about it. That's all.

U R A Crazy Breed

AmentsChick wrote:

LOL! Yeah, I assumed that much. I just wanted to hear what you had to say about it. That's all.

oh,ok.

it wasn't Osama and 19 dudes from Saudi Arabia that attacked us.

all the evidence points to it being an inside job.

does it SOUND CRAZY? of course it does! but if you think that you have a Gov that would bomb people all over the world and kill MILLIONS over the span of a few decades, but wouldn't kill a few thousand at home to get what they want,well that is crazy! crazy naive!!!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

irieinindy,
COME ON DOWN!


... to A Moving Train, that is.

Yes...does seem to be a good fit.

wait for it....at the very end... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fToRej14lCQ

IAmMyself

This is the first thread that I have started that got more than 15 comments, hell I'm on 2 pages. Holy crap, I finally said something people felt like responding to.;)

haffajappa

my lack of political knowledge is pretty embarassing...
but i'd hafto agree that basing the next leader of your country on the age old debate over abortion is pretty scary

Heineken Helen

mdg164 wrote:

I guess in your world everyone is happy, and loves each other?

Oh I get it now.... 9-11 was in inside job. There actually is nobody who wants to hurt us. George Bush went to war for oil. America is the great Satan, yet you still live here. I see now, you've had too many Heinekens!

In my world most people ARE happy and love eachother... but there are plenty of people who aren't like that. Americans arent' the only people hated you know! Americans hate too. I would safely say that every group of people in the world are hated... this is no reason to go out there and make them hate you more

mdg164

irieinindy wrote:

You sure do ASSUME a lot, and I don't watch CNN, so quit trying to label me so that you feel more secure in yourself. I actually voted for Bush twice, so I have more of a reason to be pissed then anyone because the fucker lied, lied and lied some more and I believed it, now I have friends who are DEAD for NO REASON!!!!

Iraq would be better without us and we would be better for it, we may have actually caught Bin Laden by now, if we would have focused on the real enemy! Those are the facts! If you don't believe me, quit watching FOX news and read the soldier blogs and educate yourself!

Now back to my ORIGINAL POINT, which was never about abortion. I was just extremely pissed off that people could vote for a president simply because he is pro life. I don't really care about anyone's stance on pro life or pro choice, I just can't get over the fact that you could base a vote simply on that, given the time we are living in!

After your first paragraph, I just started laughing, thanks for that, but obviously I am trying to have an adult discussion so I cannot respond to the rest of it.

I see you assume even more than I do! And you miss my title about "playing devil's advocate"! Seriously though, you can't beleive that Iraq was better off with the butcher in control? Here is a tip for you, you can vote for someone based soley on one stance! It all depends on what you feel strongly about. For me, it is nuclear power. Not only my job, but the most imporant thing for the future of this country... energy independance! That one issue "could" be enough to sway my vote to a liberal. Maybe someone else had an abortion and terribly regrets it.... maybe they feel better if they try to stop others from making the same mistake?

AmentsChick wrote:

Hi....Maybe could you elaborate? I'm curious as to what you're talking about?

He is talking about a documentary done by popular mechanics featuring subject matter experts; it completely debunks any conspiracy theories.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

Crazy Breed wrote:

there is no "real" evidence to the contrary and if you believe the "official" 9-11 story then you are the one who is nuts.

you don't know what the fuck you're talking about so i suggest you educate yourself before joining the fray because if your going to spew that popular mechanics/history channel dis-information garbage you can tell it to someone else.

I don't know what I am talking about and should educate myself.... says the person with horrible grammar! I know it is an internet message board, and we all type fast, but come on! If you are going to call out someone for being un-educated, at least don't do it with grammar errors!

How is an internet documentary by a guy who couldn't even get in to film school better than real documentary done by educated experts? Because you beleive what you want to beleive!

http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html

Heineken Helen wrote:

In my world most people ARE happy and love eachother... but there are plenty of people who aren't like that. Americans arent' the only people hated you know! Americans hate too. I would safely say that every group of people in the world are hated... this is no reason to go out there and make them hate you more

The problem is, the US would be hated either way. If we didn't liberate Iraq, people would hate us for not doing anything. The liberals would berate Bush for not helping Iraq, and letting Sadam continue his reign of terror. If you don't beleive that, then you have no idea how politics works in this country.

That aside, the real problem here is muslim extremists. They want to kill non-muslims, and spread their religion around the world. I know you don't beleive this, becasue you don't beleive that 9-11 really happened. But it is true. Right now the extremists are a small portion. But that is all it takes. Do you think the German people wanted to exterminate Jewish people? Of course not, it was the few extremist in power. But no Germans tried to stop the extremist in power. (I'm going to assume even you don't think that the holocaust didn't happen?)

Jason P

mdg164 wrote:

I see you assume even more than I do! And you miss my title about "playing devil's advocate"! Seriously though, you can't beleive that Iraq was better off with the butcher in control? Here is a tip for you, you can vote for someone based soley on one stance! It all depends on what you feel strongly about. For me, it is nuclear power. Not only my job, but the most imporant thing for the future of this country... energy independance! That one issue "could" be enough to sway my vote to a liberal. Maybe someone else had an abortion and terribly regrets it.... maybe they feel better if they try to stop others from making the same mistake?



He is talking about a documentary done by popular mechanics featuring subject matter experts; it completely debunks any conspiracy theories.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html



I don't know what I am talking about and should educate myself.... says the person with horrible grammar! I know it is an internet message board, and we all type fast, but come on! If you are going to call out someone for being un-educated, at least don't do it with grammar errors!

How is an internet documentary by a guy who couldn't even get in to film school better than real documentary done by educated experts? Because you beleive what you want to beleive!

http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html



The problem is, the US would be hated either way. If we didn't liberate Iraq, people would hate us for not doing anything. The liberals would berate Bush for not helping Iraq, and letting Sadam continue his reign of terror. If you don't beleive that, then you have no idea how politics works in this country.

That aside, the real problem here is muslim extremists. They want to kill non-muslims, and spread their religion around the world. I know you don't beleive this, becasue you don't beleive that 9-11 really happened. But it is true. Right now the extremists are a small portion. But that is all it takes. Do you think the German people wanted to exterminate Jewish people? Of course not, it was the few extremist in power. But no Germans tried to stop the extremist in power. (I'm going to assume even you don't think that the holocaust didn't happen?)

What he (or she) said.

Heineken Helen

mdg164 wrote:

The problem is, the US would be hated either way. If we didn't liberate Iraq, people would hate us for not doing anything. The liberals would berate Bush for not helping Iraq, and letting Sadam continue his reign of terror. If you don't beleive that, then you have no idea how politics works in this country.

That aside, the real problem here is muslim extremists. They want to kill non-muslims, and spread their religion around the world. I know you don't beleive this, becasue you don't beleive that 9-11 really happened. But it is true. Right now the extremists are a small portion. But that is all it takes. Do you think the German people wanted to exterminate Jewish people? Of course not, it was the few extremist in power. But no Germans tried to stop the extremist in power. (I'm going to assume even you don't think that the holocaust didn't happen?)

Liberate Iraq? by going in and bombing the fuck out of them? Yeh, the people being bombed rarely see that as very liberating. Did you see 9/11 as liberating for you? I'm sure it's even offensive for me to ask that question... however it's just in reply to your ignorant comment. I don't believe 9/11 happened? Of course I do... I saw it on telly... I just think that the suggestion that there may be more to the story may not be far off the mark. That's all. I'm not saying people didn't die... I'm not saying it wasn't sad what happened... of course it was. I'm just saying that the 'official' story is not always the truth.

Hmm... so christians have never tried to force their religion upon the world? Plenty of Irish people throughout the centuries died cos of 'christians' forcing their religion upon htem.

U R A Crazy Breed

mdg164 wrote:

I see you assume even more than I do! And you miss my title about "playing devil's advocate"! Seriously though, you can't beleive that Iraq was better off with the butcher in control?

replace one killer with an even worse one! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!

mdg164 wrote:

He is talking about a documentary done by popular mechanics featuring subject matter experts; it completely debunks any conspiracy theories.

it only debunks if your stupid enough to swallow their bullshit lies(yellow journalism at it's best)

mdg164 wrote:

I don't know what I am talking about and should educate myself.... says the person with horrible grammar! I know it is an internet message board, and we all type fast, but come on! If you are going to call out someone for being un-educated, at least don't do it with grammar errors!

is this the best you can come up with troll?? & do you really want me to point out all the words you spelled wrong?

mdg164 wrote:

How is an internet documentary by a guy who couldn't even get in to film school better than real documentary done by educated experts? Because you beleive what you want to beleive!

you seem to think i based my beliefs on a single documentary when in fact i have read several books,seen at least 2 dozen documentaries and i have read hundreds of articles pertaining to every facet of 9-11

mdg164 wrote:

The problem is, the US would be hated either way. If we didn't liberate Iraq, people would hate us for not doing anything. The liberals would berate Bush for not helping Iraq, and letting Sadam continue his reign of terror. If you don't beleive that, then you have no idea how politics works in this country.

That aside, the real problem here is muslim extremists. They want to kill non-muslims, and spread their religion around the world. I know you don't beleive this, becasue you don't beleive that 9-11 really happened. But it is true. Right now the extremists are a small portion. But that is all it takes. Do you think the German people wanted to exterminate Jewish people? Of course not, it was the few extremist in power. But no one tried to stop the extremist. (I'm going to assume even you don't think that the holocaust didn't happen?)

Liberate Iraq? LIBERATE IRAQ??!! WOW!! you are totally clueless

the reason we are hated is because of ignorant douche-bags like you who give the rest of us a bad name.

Muslim extremists?? hahahahah!! try CIA,Mossad & M16.

Germany committed heinous acts and the German people didn't stop it because they were controlled by lies,fear & propaganda,just like a lot of people in this country(namely YOU!!)

haffajappa

Heineken Helen wrote:

In my world most people ARE happy and love eachother... but there are plenty of people who aren't like that. Americans arent' the only people hated you know! Americans hate too. I would safely say that every group of people in the world are hated... this is no reason to go out there and make them hate you more

yah like them god damn guinness drinkin clover wavin not-being-able-to-pronounce-TH-properly irish!

mdg164

Heineken Helen wrote:

Liberate Iraq? by going in and bombing the fuck out of them? Yeh, the people being bombed rarely see that as very liberating. Did you see 9/11 as liberating for you? I'm sure it's even offensive for me to ask that question... however it's just in reply to your ignorant comment. I don't believe 9/11 happened?

My mistake, I didn't mean 9/11 in general didn't happen, I meant that you didn't believe the official story happened. Sorry for the confusion.

As for bombing the F#&$ out of Iraq..... You insinuate that is all we did there? Do we just blow up cities and move on to the next? Or did the troops go door to door looking for insurgents? Why didn't we just drop a really big bomb and call it a day? We could have turned Iraq in to glass in one day!

Crazy Breed wrote:

replace one killer with an even worse one! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!

You obviously have no concept of the atrocities Sadam committed over the years.

Crazy Breed wrote:

it only debunks if your stupid enough to swallow their bullshit lies(yellow journalism at it's best)

I have a master's degree in engineering... seemed pretty solid to me. Everything is based in science. Every conspiracy story is full of holes and conjecture, and is pretty much the definition of "Yellow Journalism."

Crazy Breed wrote:

is this the best you can come up with troll?? & do you really want me to point out all the words you spelled wrong?

Please do! And please re-read my post, because I never once said "spelling". Many web browsers will spell check for you! I said Grammar! Seems you have a reading comprehension problem. You also missed the point entirely; if you are going to call someone uneducated.... you shouldn't make a bunch of grammar errors in the process!

For your future reference, name calling is the first sign of message board defeat, so you better keep the "trolls" to yourself!

Crazy Breed wrote:

you seem to think i based my beliefs on a single documentary when in fact i have read several books,seen at least 2 dozen documentaries and i have read hundreds of articles pertaining to every facet of 9-11

You read the word "grammar" in my post, and infer spelling? So even if you did read several books on the subject, how can you be sure your mind didn't fill in the blanks? Also, please list all books and documentaries you refer too.

Crazy Breed wrote:

Liberate Iraq? LIBERATE IRAQ??!! WOW!! you are totally clueless

If people are better off living under a dictator than living in a Democracy (or Republic in our case).... then why don't you go live under a dictator? Since you say "we" in reference to the USA, I assume you live here. Why don't you leave?

Crazy Breed wrote:

the reason we are hated is because of ignorant douche-bags like you who give the rest of us a bad name.

Again with the name calling, you must be getting desperate! The real reason we are hated is because we have a quality of life that others want.

Crazy Breed wrote:

Muslim extremists?? hahahahah!! try CIA,Mossad & M16.

I forgot... Islam is the religion of peace! It makes much more sense that the CIA pulled off 9-11 to accomplish something! I think your screen name fits you very well!

Crazy Breed wrote:

Germany committed heinous acts and the German people didn't stop it because they were controlled by lies,fear & propaganda,just like a lot of people in this country(namely YOU!!)

Controlled by lies, fear and propaganda.... sounds like why most people vote for Democrats! "McCain is going to take away your Medicare.... better vote for Hussein Osama!"

mdg164

Heineken Helen wrote:

Liberate Iraq? by going in and bombing the fuck out of them? Yeh, the people being bombed rarely see that as very liberating. Did you see 9/11 as liberating for you? I'm sure it's even offensive for me to ask that question... however it's just in reply to your ignorant comment. I don't believe 9/11 happened?

My mistake, I didn't mean 9/11 in general didn't happen, I meant that you didn't believe the official story happened. Sorry for the confusion.

As for bombing the F#&$ out of Iraq..... You insinuate that is all we did there? Do we just blow up cities and move on to the next? Or did the troops go door to door looking for insurgents? Why didn't we just drop a really big bomb and call it a day? We could have turned Iraq in to glass in one day!

Crazy Breed wrote:

replace one killer with an even worse one! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!

You obviously have no concept of the atrocities Sadam committed over the years.

Crazy Breed wrote:

it only debunks if your stupid enough to swallow their bullshit lies(yellow journalism at it's best)

I have a master's degree in engineering... seemed pretty solid to me. Everything is based in science. Every conspiracy story is full of holes and conjecture, and is pretty much the definition of "Yellow Journalism."

Crazy Breed wrote:

is this the best you can come up with troll?? & do you really want me to point out all the words you spelled wrong?

Please do! And please re-read my post, because I never once said "spelling". Many web browsers will spell check for you! I said Grammar! Seems you have a reading comprehension problem. Replying to your posts is really hard; I want to fix all your grammar mistakes!

For your future reference, name calling is the first sign of message board defeat, so you better keep the "trolls" to yourself!

Crazy Breed wrote:

you seem to think i based my beliefs on a single documentary when in fact i have read several books,seen at least 2 dozen documentaries and i have read hundreds of articles pertaining to every facet of 9-11

You read the word "grammar" in my post, and infer spelling? So even if you did read several books on the subject, how can you be sure your mind didn't fill in the blanks? Also, please list all books and documentaries you refer too.

Crazy Breed wrote:

Liberate Iraq? LIBERATE IRAQ??!! WOW!! you are totally clueless

If people are better off living under a dictator than living in a Democracy.... then why don't you go live under a dictator? Since you say "we" in reference to the USA, I assume you live here. Why don't you leave?

Crazy Breed wrote:

the reason we are hated is because of ignorant douche-bags like you who give the rest of us a bad name.

Again with the name calling, you must be getting desperate! The real reason we are hated is because we have a quality of life that others want.

Crazy Breed wrote:

Muslim extremists?? hahahahah!! try CIA,Mossad & M16.

I forgot... Islam is the religion of peace! It makes much more sense that the CIA pulled off 9-11 to accomplish something! I think your screen name fits you very well!

Crazy Breed wrote:

Germany committed heinous acts and the German people didn't stop it because they were controlled by lies,fear & propaganda,just like a lot of people in this country(namely YOU!!)

Controlled by lies, fear and propaganda.... sounds like why most people vote for Democrats! "McCain is going to take away your Medicare.... better vote for Hussein Osama!"