Cemeteries/Graveyards.

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  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    geishagrrl wrote:
    I love Bonaventure! I went to SCAD and loved to visit it when I could. Absolutely beautiful. I think it was sad that they had to put a iron fence around Gracie to keep people from messing with her. I have pics of it from back when I lived there but none of them are digital. One of these days I'll manage to scan them. I was very disappointed after experiencing Bonaventure to then visit New Orleans. I was expecting their cemeteries to be as equally beautiful but I think because they didn't have the landscape to accompany the graves and everything was crammed into a small space, it just didn't have the same effect on me. There is another cemetery in Savannah that I forget the name of, its downtown and even older than Bonaventure. It is mostly used as a dog park which made it just a fun place to be.


    aha! well u know exactly what im talking about :D I think you are talking about the Colonial Cemetery.. Which actually, ive never even been to! Its literally right down the road from me.... I should stop by there before work and take some pictures :D
    Its a civil war graveyard..right on Oglethorpe (if is the same one you are thinking of)

    The funny thing is.. the more and more books i read, the more i realize that Savannah is like , one big cemetary. I just read yesterday that the park right in front of my house (Forsythe) has people buried under it!! There was a yellow fever epidemic back in the day and they literally had no room for them so they put them in a small wooded area that is now the park. Freaky stuff
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i was about 14 and my family and i went to the mission dolores church in san francisco. they had the cemetary out in back, so we checked it out. i walked past one grave in particular that made me feel sick. i went to the other side of the cemetery to check it out, came back past that same grave....same reaction. so finally i just stood in front of it to see who it was. some spanish general. i finally had to go out to the front and sit on the curb, i thought i was gonna throw up.

    being sensitive to paranormal crap is NO fun lol

    one cemetery in particular that stands out in memory is hte one i visited in salzburg, st. peter's, waaay old. and also has some family members of mozart and haydn, was really interesting:

    http://www.sacred-destinations.com/austria/salzburg-st-peters-cemetary-and-catacombs.htm

    my family and friends make fun of me when i travel cuz i get intrigued by cemeteries, like i have my own personal death tour lol i figure you can learn a lot about a place not just by the living, but by the dead too :)


    that's a very cool story.
    & you're right about the being sensitive to paranormal activity being not so much fun.
    but yet it is awesome.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    aha! well u know exactly what im talking about :D I think you are talking about the Colonial Cemetery.. Which actually, ive never even been to! Its literally right down the road from me.... I should stop by there before work and take some pictures :D
    Its a civil war graveyard..right on Oglethorpe (if is the same one you are thinking of)

    The funny thing is.. the more and more books i read, the more i realize that Savannah is like , one big cemetary. I just read yesterday that the park right in front of my house (Forsythe) has people buried under it!! There was a yellow fever epidemic back in the day and they literally had no room for them so they put them in a small wooded area that is now the park. Freaky stuff

    nice very nice..

    i wanna go to the battle fields of Gettysburs, PA
    & check out the near by cemeteries.
    the battle in Gettysburg had what, some 50,000 ppl die within just a few minutes or some wild shit like that...time to google that stuff..
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    No one thought my story was funny?
    Aaaaa ta hell with you all. :(
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
    Sweep the Leg Johnny.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    I see dead people..............


    go on.
    zombies, mummies, car crash victims?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • spatspat Posts: 644
    No one thought my story was funny?
    Aaaaa ta hell with you all. :(

    ahahahaha! i just read that :) you had me going, i'll have to remember that one. i noticed you were from south jersey, just moved to delaware after living in toms river all my life, and i thought wow, maybe we were at the same supermarket.

    yea i'm gulible.
    My favorite Pearl Jam song: "Corporate Greed Boat Asshole Behind a Counter in the Oval Office"
  • i was about 14 and my family and i went to the mission dolores church in san francisco. they had the cemetary out in back, so we checked it out. i walked past one grave in particular that made me feel sick. i went to the other side of the cemetery to check it out, came back past that same grave....same reaction. so finally i just stood in front of it to see who it was. some spanish general. i finally had to go out to the front and sit on the curb, i thought i was gonna throw up.

    being sensitive to paranormal crap is NO fun lol

    one cemetery in particular that stands out in memory is hte one i visited in salzburg, st. peter's, waaay old. and also has some family members of mozart and haydn, was really interesting:

    http://www.sacred-destinations.com/austria/salzburg-st-peters-cemetary-and-catacombs.htm

    my family and friends make fun of me when i travel cuz i get intrigued by cemeteries, like i have my own personal death tour lol i figure you can learn a lot about a place not just by the living, but by the dead too :)
    Was it Don Luis Antonio Arguello???

    he was the first gov of California under Mexican rule...I think he was the ONLY one...he was cursed for selling out the other Californios to the Americans. I think it might be a result of that. Cursed soul and all.

    I am sensitive to stuff too - I can totally empathize with you - it sucks. heart hurts, and you get dizzy nauseous...and prickly.
    IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
  • There's a beautiful cemetery in Staunton, Virginia -- Thornrose. You should go see it sometime, but if you do, please, keep it the way it is.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • There's also one there near the old asylum which contains people who were treated for mental illnesses who died there - they didn't mark their graves with their names -- too embarasing for the relatives I guess. So sad.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    There's also one there near the old asylum which contains people who were treated for mental illnesses who died there - they didn't mark their graves with their names -- too embarasing for the relatives I guess. So sad.

    is it in the town of Lynchburg or no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • geishagrrlgeishagrrl Posts: 130
    aha! well u know exactly what im talking about :D I think you are talking about the Colonial Cemetery.. Which actually, ive never even been to! Its literally right down the road from me.... I should stop by there before work and take some pictures :D
    Its a civil war graveyard..right on Oglethorpe (if is the same one you are thinking of)

    The funny thing is.. the more and more books i read, the more i realize that Savannah is like , one big cemetary. I just read yesterday that the park right in front of my house (Forsythe) has people buried under it!! There was a yellow fever epidemic back in the day and they literally had no room for them so they put them in a small wooded area that is now the park. Freaky stuff
    Yeah, the one on Oglethorpe. Though I thought it was older than the Civil War because they had to remove the grave markers on the graves during the war so the Northern troops wouldn't desecrate the graves. When I was there many of the gravestones were no longer on the graves but lined up along the back wall. and the city had installed in-ground trash cans so people could easily dispose of their "doggie bags." I just thought it was such an odd place to become a dog park but it was the only large grassy area with a fence.

    You're right about the city being one big cemetery. When I took a ghost tour with my mother (she desperately wanted to see one) they were saying most of the parks/squares had people buried in them. Plus I thought there were catacombs under the cathedral that spread out under the city. I don't know if you have ever eaten at the Pirate House but I remember there being a large hole that lead down in to tunnels that went to the river. They said people would try and sneak in and out of the city that way but some drowned or were left to drown when the tide came in. Messed up!

    As for ghosts here are some stories from SCAD students, some of whom I knew: http://haunted_scad.tripod.com/
  • chadwick wrote:
    is it in the town of Lynchburg or no?


    No -- other side of the mountain -- Staunton, which is surrounded by Augusta County. Lynchburg, I think, is surrounded by Nelson County.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staunton%2C_Virginia
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • geishagrrl wrote:
    Yeah, the one on Oglethorpe. Though I thought it was older than the Civil War because they had to remove the grave markers on the graves during the war so the Northern troops wouldn't desecrate the graves. When I was there many of the gravestones were no longer on the graves but lined up along the back wall. and the city had installed in-ground trash cans so people could easily dispose of their "doggie bags." I just thought it was such an odd place to become a dog park but it was the only large grassy area with a fence.

    You're right about the city being one big cemetery. When I took a ghost tour with my mother (she desperately wanted to see one) they were saying most of the parks/squares had people buried in them. Plus I thought there were catacombs under the cathedral that spread out under the city. I don't know if you have ever eaten at the Pirate House but I remember there being a large hole that lead down in to tunnels that went to the river. They said people would try and sneak in and out of the city that way but some drowned or were left to drown when the tide came in. Messed up!

    As for ghosts here are some stories from SCAD students, some of whom I knew: http://haunted_scad.tripod.com/


    I'd love to visit there sometime.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • Western State Hospital
    Staunton is also home to the former Western State Lunatic Asylum, a hospital for the mentally ill, which originally began operations in 1828. The hospital was renamed Western State Hospital in 1894. The facility was infamous for its practices of eugenics during the 1930s under then-director Joseph DeJarnette.

    In its early days, the facility was a resort-style asylum. It had terraced gardens where patients could plant flowers and take walks, roof walks to provide mountain views, and many architectural details to create an atmosphere that would aid in the healing process.

    Western State vacated the property in the 1970s when the hospital moved to its present site near Interstate 81. The facility was then converted to the Staunton Correctional Center, a medium-security men's penitentiary. The prison closed in 2003, and the site was left vacant for several years.

    The site is currently being redeveloped into a mixed-use neighborhood called "The Villages at Staunton." [1] The multi-phase process is expected to take several years to complete. The first building to be renovated is The Bindery, which holds office spaces. The development team consists of Frazier Associates of Staunton, Folsom Group of Charlottesville, Miller & Associates of Richmond, and The Arcadia Land Company of Wayne, Pennsylvania. [2]

    The developer has been criticized by some community members for attempting to sanitize the site's past. The developer's website makes no mention of the fact that the luxury condos and offices used to be cells for prisoners and the mentally ill. A state-level investigation records multiple suicides and cases of mistreatment at the facility [3] and developers have refused to respond to requests for more information. Some community members feel that the buildings on the site should be razed, despite their architectural and historic value. Other members of the community are pleased that the derelict site is undergoing a transition into something with less of a sinister past. Regardless, the site contains a cemetery with nearly 1000 unmarked tombstones, which serves as a silent reminder of the immutable past. It's noteworthy that the cemetery does not appear on the developer's master plan for the site. The developer has refused to comment about the future of the cemetery.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • chadwick wrote:
    Tell a small story about one or some you have been to that are a bit freaky.

    I lived in rural Iowa growing up.
    Across the way & into the woods about 1 mile is a very old resting place for people who met their demise a very longtime ago.
    It's very old, as in Civil War times old & unkempt.
    The gravesites are sunk down many feet due to casket/coffin collapse.
    A thick green ground covering ivy stays green 365 days a year.
    Buried in snow & -30f degrees that ivy is so fresh looking it is creepy in itself.
    This ivy has even devoured some very tall headstones.
    The headstones are very weathered and rather difficult to make out.
    Old decomposed Cedar trees wither in the wind all droopy like.
    Inside a few wrought-iron fences are familes & what is horrible is that
    they all had died within a very close time of one another; infants, children, & parents.
    I recall reading a tombstone that is that of a Civil War soldier.
    My brothers & I walked through & hung out this in this place for alot of years.
    It sits atop a hill surrounded by trees and alfalfa fields.

    (now it's your turn to tell a little story...go)

    I love places like this (I know -- a little morbid :) ) You can feel the ghosts.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • BTW -- I loved all the stories I read in this thread -- mine, I guess, isn't really a story -- sorry about that. I just find graveyards wonderful places to read about and visit. I used to take walks in Thornrose -- I lived near the top of the hill where the ball diamond is -- at the end of North Madison. There was a hole in the fence at the ball diamond, so we squeezed through there and into a world of long ago.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • see that is why when you die all you have to do is fOCUS on a place or person and you can be there! I really believe taht...you have to have a real seriousnes too. like last minute cant think of a "white light" r any of the stuff maybe you learned as a kid...

    I really think that. I am not kidding. I have my mom with me sometimes. it's the rose garden she had ath the old house.
    I went after she died (we moved from our family home) and some other peoeple were there and I didnt even ask I just dug up all of her roses. nd i took them to my home.

    and wheni moved out i left them there with family

    but then when i got my owh house i stole them one night i just went to my dad's hose and dug up the roses.

    and now my mom is with me too. i left some with my dad. becuase even tho he wont admit it. he talks to her.

    this feels like i said too much. hahahaa...fucking regret. I hate it. hahahaa

    That's so sweet.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • geishagrrl wrote:
    I love Bonaventure! I went to SCAD and loved to visit it when I could. Absolutely beautiful. I think it was sad that they had to put a iron fence around Gracie to keep people from messing with her. I have pics of it from back when I lived there but none of them are digital. One of these days I'll manage to scan them. I was very disappointed after experiencing Bonaventure to then visit New Orleans. I was expecting their cemeteries to be as equally beautiful but I think because they didn't have the landscape to accompany the graves and everything was crammed into a small space, it just didn't have the same effect on me. There is another cemetery in Savannah that I forget the name of, its downtown and even older than Bonaventure. It is mostly used as a dog park which made it just a fun place to be.

    I couldn't get that last link of this, so I did a search and found this:


    http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ndpink/gracie.htm

    Look at her little nose in the last picture -- somehow it got broken -- I hope they fix it, since they have the picture of the statue when it was there it shouldn't be too hard to do.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    I don't have any good stories...but I find graveyards interesting. No sense of unease, I find them peaceful.
    I did miss an opportunity for a good story...I had a gf that fantasized about sex in graveyards...weird?

    I couldn't care less what happens to me when I'm dead...whatever is cheapest and least painful for my family.
    When I say least painful, I'm hoping my family doesn't fall into this 'I need a $20,000 place to remember him' mindset.
    Fuckin torch me and smoke crack with my ashes for all I care. Remember me in your head, dummy.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    The hole embraces the box

    An evaporated sunset casts only hallow vague moon shadows this night
    Roosting owls are in the nearby distance of several great oaks and cedar trees
    Fireflies are sprinkled through the night air
    They are the only peaceful energy that lingers here, the only beauty
    Stars are rare and empty
    Black consumes the sky and down to this place of underground rest
    Unlived wrought-iron closes in
    Cathedral bells centuries old still ring but never seen
    Beyond the bells that toll are vacant eyes from grayed out images
    Hovering, a wind like object bends open to be seen and felt
    This is loneliness at its best
    Where do they go, where are they from
    Working are lanterns swaying through the night
    Some carry shovels and pickaxes for the digging of yet another passing
    Oh those crying owls again, they feel and fill silent tears
    Becoming vacant are not only the diminishing gardens but the soon to be breathless
    And yet granite carvings are brilliant talent singing under such conditions of gloom
    This song matches note for note from that of the great owls’ musical contract with the night
    Figures, three of them in blackened cloaks encircle for vigilance
    These are the worker of the hole
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • geishagrrlgeishagrrl Posts: 130
    I couldn't get that last link of this, so I did a search and found this:


    http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ndpink/gracie.htm

    Look at her little nose in the last picture -- somehow it got broken -- I hope they fix it, since they have the picture of the statue when it was there it shouldn't be too hard to do.
    Pulaski House became a SCAD girls dorm. I had a friend back at school who had said Gracie was often heard dancing in the hallway and that she would mess with the televisions and video games. Apparently if you said,"Please stop it, Gracie" the electronics would go back to normal or the tap dancing noises would go away.
  • chadwick yeah it can be an awesome thing to pick up on stuff, until it makes ya all queasy :o lol
    Was it Don Luis Antonio Arguello???

    he was the first gov of California under Mexican rule...I think he was the ONLY one...he was cursed for selling out the other Californios to the Americans. I think it might be a result of that. Cursed soul and all.

    I am sensitive to stuff too - I can totally empathize with you - it sucks. heart hurts, and you get dizzy nauseous...and prickly.
    hmm i'm not sure, i don't remember the name, i ran outta there once i thought i was gonna hurl haha that's interesting info though. i was just telling some friends about this experience a couple weeks ago, and how i was thinking of going back to visit. i'll go see, i'm curious if i'd have the same reaction or not.

    and yeah it's all that you described, it's a weird sensation for sure!
  • I live by two older ones, not too close but kinda. Never thought or felt anything bad from them.
    >>>>
    >
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  • weedweed Posts: 475
    my story :

    nothing special but it sure did scare the fuck outta me

    way back in 1983
    after hearing rumors
    of a "pot patch"
    growing near a certain cemetery
    I went to check it out
    (with every intension of stealing it)
    anyway ...
    it was so grown up
    that you couldn't see any
    stones or markers
    so I started to question
    if I was in the right place or not
    that was til I tripped over one :
    it was the grave of a little boy
    that had died
    on the same day
    I was born
    3/6/66


    are graveyards and cemeteries
    open to everyone ?
    there are a few around here
    that I would like to check out
    but it looks like you'd have to
    walk across other peoples land
    to get to them
    thats all I need is for someone
    to come out yelling
    "what the fuck are you doing ?"
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    weed wrote:
    my story :

    nothing special but it sure did scare the fuck outta me

    way back in 1983
    after hearing rumors
    of a "pot patch"
    growing near a certain cemetery
    I went to check it out
    (with every intension of stealing it)
    anyway ...
    it was so grown up
    that you couldn't see any
    stones or markers
    so I started to question
    if I was in the right place or not
    that was til I tripped over one :
    it was the grave of a little boy
    that had died
    on the same day
    I was born
    3/6/66


    are graveyards and cemeteries
    open to everyone ?
    there are a few around here
    that I would like to check out
    but it looks like you'd have to
    walk across other peoples land
    to get to them
    thats all I need is for someone
    to come out yelling
    "what the fuck are you doing ?"

    do it anyways
    you're not hurtin a thing
    you are merely on a lil day journey

    btw, i love your story & it is quite interesting to say the least
    it means something that you had that experience
    that is awesome
    nice work miss pot searching graveyard lady tombstone tripper ;)
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    geishagrrl wrote:
    Yeah, the one on Oglethorpe. Though I thought it was older than the Civil War because they had to remove the grave markers on the graves during the war so the Northern troops wouldn't desecrate the graves. When I was there many of the gravestones were no longer on the graves but lined up along the back wall. and the city had installed in-ground trash cans so people could easily dispose of their "doggie bags." I just thought it was such an odd place to become a dog park but it was the only large grassy area with a fence.

    You're right about the city being one big cemetery. When I took a ghost tour with my mother (she desperately wanted to see one) they were saying most of the parks/squares had people buried in them. Plus I thought there were catacombs under the cathedral that spread out under the city. I don't know if you have ever eaten at the Pirate House but I remember there being a large hole that lead down in to tunnels that went to the river. They said people would try and sneak in and out of the city that way but some drowned or were left to drown when the tide came in. Messed up!

    As for ghosts here are some stories from SCAD students, some of whom I knew: http://haunted_scad.tripod.com/

    oh very cool! Thanks for the link
  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    Then she fell to the floor crying and started to pull my leg like I am pulling yours.

    Haha! Brilliant. Consider your punch line stolen!!!
  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    i went to a pretty cool cemetary outside of dublin last year... but have no crazy stories. is it in the wicklow mountains? i have no idea.. dublin'ers help me out here

    this is it: http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c45/haffa-jappa/DSCN4650.jpg?t=1220074860

    judging by the valley behind it im gona guess its at Glencree...but there are probably a hundred graveyards like that in the wicklow mountains so it could be anywhere! sweet pic nonetheless!

    my greatgrandad & his wife had the exact same names as my parents, and they are buried in a plot which is couple of feet in front of the door of the parish church. the gravestone with my parents names on it was the first thing ud see everytime u walked in/out of the church.....as a kid, that was some fucked up and confusing shit to see!!
  • angie76angie76 Posts: 646
    I really don't have an andecdote but I do have a lot of old cemetaries where I live. There is one by a train station that dates back to revolutionary times. I would like to do some grave rubbings.
    Dig a ditch deep enough
    To keep you clear of the sun
    You've been burned more than once
    You don't think much of trust
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