A Pearl Jam pre-sale and the recession. Is one related to the other?
Would you rather they delay a reissue, new record, or tour until the recession is over? Give me a f*@%ing break!
THEY ARE NOT FORCING YOU TO BUY THE REISSUE, IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE 10C, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY IT. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR EXTRA MONEY A CHARITY OR PERSON IN NEED.
Personally since I have no use for vinyl and no interest in owning it as a collectible the Super Duper version would be a pointless waste of money for me. My arm isnt twisted so I'm not buying one I hope everyone who does enjoys it as they've obviously decided ots worth it to them..
I do have one objection though and that is the inclusion of the 92 Magnuson Park show ONLY as part of the Super Duper set. Sure something has to set it apart to give it extra value to make it worth a higher price but but this feels inappropriate to me. Perhaps each of the sets sold thru 10c could have been sold autographed by 1 band member with a few signed by all. I doubt the numbers sold will exceed what would be feasible for that. However, limiting the availability of materials for the purpose of driving the price up seems a lot like taking advantage of hardcore fans. I suppose some might say the same thing about the DVD if its only available with the purchase of the 2 cd set which of course most already have at least one of. Or how would we have felt if Lost Dogs had only have been sold as a box set with all the other CDs we already own? Of course people could say no one is twisting your arm to buy it but is that really the only point? Isnt that exactly what the Tickemaster price debate used to be about? Perhaps the new dynamics in the music industry make things like this necessary from a financial standpoint. If thats the case as far as I'm concerned its time to join the Guitar Hero bandwagon instead.
I normally make the point of purchasing CDs and other items for sale from Pearl Jam and other bands I like not just because I like the music but out of sense of responsibilty to support the bands. In this case the opposite will be true certainly won't be purchasing the super duper set and also won't feel bad about obtaining the new materials thru "other" means. Hopefully the 2 cd / dvd set will be reasonably priced in which case I would purchase it but I'm not paying that kind of $ to get the Magnuson Park show.
Nice post dreamfire2. Perhaps the only one I've seen (on the against side) with well made points. I can certainly feel for someone who wants that show (Drop in the Park) but can't get it on it's own, and doesn't want to drop $140.00, or more, to get it.
I'm sure you won't be alone with those other means AND I'm sure these sets will be broken up and people will find the individual pieces available on eBay for a more palatable cost.
Whats he is saying that comming out with a 140.00 Box set at this time is probably not a good Idea. I myself was unemployeed for about 4 months and reciently got a new job that doesnt pay near as much as what I was making before. But I had no choice In Ohio we have the 3rd worst job loss rate in the U.S. I myself cant afford the Ten Reissue and most likely will not be able to get it in the next few months.
But as we all know this will sell out or be not offered anymore, so when it comes to a time when I can afford it, I will have to pay 300 for it on Ebay in a year.
It is nice that they are offering a long preorder time period, so who knows I might get enough room on the Mastercard to get it.
But I agree with this, They maybe should have waited until later in 2009 to do a reissue. I mean, I am sure PJ is gonna see a lot less of these sets ordered, to other sets they have released.
But I agree with this, They maybe should have waited until later in 2009 to do a reissue. I mean, I am sure PJ is gonna see a lot less of these sets ordered, to other sets they have released.
they really cant "wait until later" when they are on a fairly tight time frame between now and their 20th anniversary to release 7 (maybe 8 if they do avacado too... which i doubt) of these remixed CD's/packs... im not sure each will be as elaborate as this one, but thats what i gather from the intel we have so far... not to mention the new CD in the works which will be followed by a new tour... I'd say this was right on schedule
I am sure it takes a really long time and a lot of effort to get all of our orders together, packaged,shipped, and they are in the middle of making a new album, which they are probably planning a pre-sale for that as well. I don't think PJ intended this release to cause this much stir. I am sure there intentions were for the fans. The reason I say this is because there is or was a thread titled something like this "Offical release the unplugged on DVD" Wow, it looks like PJ responed to that thread. They are providing this DVD to the fans and much more. Thanks PJ. Correct me if am wrong but is there a thread titled "Thank you PJ for listening to us and giving us our Unplugged DVD that we long for, and much much more." I haven't seen it. As for the economy, it is rough, I am actually laid off right now for four weeks. Ford is 90% of my business and we all know the auto industry is mismanaged and sucks. So I do have sympathy for those who are struggling and I hope I do return to work, I have 3 kids etc. Enough about that I can go on for a while. But guess what, I love PJ without them I don't know if I would have pulled through and made it through the ages of 19 to 25. I bought the super box set and I don't regret a thing, and I even donated food to a local food drive for the poor. Not bad for someone who is feeling the effects of our economy 1st hand. Cheers flyinwhole313
holy shit. this might be one of the dumbest threads ever. buying this actually helps the economy, so i'm doing my part. i guess EVERY time i buy something i MUST donate to charity or i'll be reminded of this dickhead's thread. i'm so mad at pearl jam for releasing a product at this time when all other companies have decided to wait for the economy to recover.
Can you read? I wasn't talking about ME not having the money! Why don't all you douche bags with a stupid comment spend a half hour helping the Red Cross with your local Homeless Shelter, it is a pretty sad thing this presale couldnt wait a month considering the status of the economy and time of year. This is an item that 90% of the buyers are buying for themselves, not as a gift for others...[/quote]
Go tell all of your friends we're idiots and you're great. I guess all that helping out hasn't made you feel good enough about yourself? You need to get on here to be superior, bash everyone and everything because you don't like the timing? The world doesn't revolve around you. There are plenty of people on here who volunteer and donate thier time and money to the less fortunate throughout the entire year. I'm one of them and I don't feel personally affronted by the timing on the pre-sale.
Some of you are seriously neurotic or just plain miserable. I love the timing personally. It gave me something else to add to my Christmas list! And I have no problem waiting until March to get it. I would guess the reason why the Deluxe Set is the only thing issued for pre-sale this early is because it will be limited quantity.
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Some of you are seriously neurotic or just plain miserable. I love the timing personally. It gave me something else to add to my Christmas list! And I have no problem waiting until March to get it. I would guess the reason why the Deluxe Set is the only thing issued for pre-sale this early is because it will be limited quantity.
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Some of you are seriously neurotic or just plain miserable. I love the timing personally. It gave me something else to add to my Christmas list! And I have no problem waiting until March to get it. I would guess the reason why the Deluxe Set is the only thing issued for pre-sale this early is because it will be limited quantity.
Something tells me this thing won't be limited. I'm thinking that the pre-sale is this early cause they want to gauge the demand. I'm sure you will see this on many online merchants websites and stores come March. There are even a few other sites now that have presales for this, except the price is more like $200.
sgossard3,
has anyone ever told you that you look like ryan gosling?
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Well it was meant as a compliment...
I've never met anyone famous. Being from Jersey, well, need i say more!?
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no worries..
you got me there, guess i'm just never in the right place at the right time.
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Well it was meant as a compliment...
I've never met anyone famous. Being from Jersey, well, need i say more!?
Hey, I'm from Jersey and I see famous people all the time. Of course I live in the city now so that helps (if that's what you're into, I guess). Anyway, there are tons of big names from New Jersey. I love my home state. :-)
Wow, totally off topic. I guess I should validate my post somehow by restating how dumb this thread is: quite.
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A Pearl Jam pre-sale and the recession. Is one related to the other?
Would you rather they delay a reissue, new record, or tour until the recession is over? Give me a f*@%ing break!
THEY ARE NOT FORCING YOU TO BUY THE REISSUE, IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE 10C, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY IT. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR EXTRA MONEY A CHARITY OR PERSON IN NEED.
I do have one objection though and that is the inclusion of the 92 Magnuson Park show ONLY as part of the Super Duper set. Sure something has to set it apart to give it extra value to make it worth a higher price but but this feels inappropriate to me. Perhaps each of the sets sold thru 10c could have been sold autographed by 1 band member with a few signed by all. I doubt the numbers sold will exceed what would be feasible for that. However, limiting the availability of materials for the purpose of driving the price up seems a lot like taking advantage of hardcore fans. I suppose some might say the same thing about the DVD if its only available with the purchase of the 2 cd set which of course most already have at least one of. Or how would we have felt if Lost Dogs had only have been sold as a box set with all the other CDs we already own? Of course people could say no one is twisting your arm to buy it but is that really the only point? Isnt that exactly what the Tickemaster price debate used to be about? Perhaps the new dynamics in the music industry make things like this necessary from a financial standpoint. If thats the case as far as I'm concerned its time to join the Guitar Hero bandwagon instead.
I normally make the point of purchasing CDs and other items for sale from Pearl Jam and other bands I like not just because I like the music but out of sense of responsibilty to support the bands. In this case the opposite will be true certainly won't be purchasing the super duper set and also won't feel bad about obtaining the new materials thru "other" means. Hopefully the 2 cd / dvd set will be reasonably priced in which case I would purchase it but I'm not paying that kind of $ to get the Magnuson Park show.
Did you not get any education at all? Because if you did you wouldn't be saying what you said above.
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I'm sure you won't be alone with those other means AND I'm sure these sets will be broken up and people will find the individual pieces available on eBay for a more palatable cost.
But as we all know this will sell out or be not offered anymore, so when it comes to a time when I can afford it, I will have to pay 300 for it on Ebay in a year.
It is nice that they are offering a long preorder time period, so who knows I might get enough room on the Mastercard to get it.
But I agree with this, They maybe should have waited until later in 2009 to do a reissue. I mean, I am sure PJ is gonna see a lot less of these sets ordered, to other sets they have released.
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Can you read? I wasn't talking about ME not having the money! Why don't all you douche bags with a stupid comment spend a half hour helping the Red Cross with your local Homeless Shelter, it is a pretty sad thing this presale couldnt wait a month considering the status of the economy and time of year. This is an item that 90% of the buyers are buying for themselves, not as a gift for others...[/quote]
Go tell all of your friends we're idiots and you're great. I guess all that helping out hasn't made you feel good enough about yourself? You need to get on here to be superior, bash everyone and everything because you don't like the timing? The world doesn't revolve around you. There are plenty of people on here who volunteer and donate thier time and money to the less fortunate throughout the entire year. I'm one of them and I don't feel personally affronted by the timing on the pre-sale.
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& cute picture
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Something tells me this thing won't be limited. I'm thinking that the pre-sale is this early cause they want to gauge the demand. I'm sure you will see this on many online merchants websites and stores come March. There are even a few other sites now that have presales for this, except the price is more like $200.
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i met rachel mcadams before too... too bad she didnt see the resemblance
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didnt mean to take offense to the gosling thing... thanks for the compliment
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Hey, I'm from Jersey and I see famous people all the time. Of course I live in the city now so that helps (if that's what you're into, I guess). Anyway, there are tons of big names from New Jersey. I love my home state. :-)
Wow, totally off topic. I guess I should validate my post somehow by restating how dumb this thread is: quite.
dont want it = dont bitch about it
cant afford it = dont bitch about it
the guys and girls of the band and 10c have given us SO much...for SO LONG
QUIT COMPLAINING!!!!
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