Work In a School In Which 15 Year Old Girl Commited Suicide

lukin2006
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edited May 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
WTF - How could a 15 year olds problems be so bad that this was the only way out, and hard to believe that with all the resources devoted to kids these days she couldn't find the help needed.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    perhaps she was manic depressive or something like that. a 15 year olds problem can sometimes go way beyond boys and bitchy girls and fashion you know. to say how could a 15 year old problems be so bad... is in my opinion slightly ignorant. there may have been a catalyst but there may well have been a deeper underlying condition.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    i wanted to off myself when i was 15.....hell i've thought of it since i was 10.....
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    lukin2006 wrote:
    WTF - How could a 15 year olds problems be so bad that this was the only way out, and hard to believe that with all the resources devoted to kids these days she couldn't find the help needed.


    This is very very sad! I think it's a shame that she felt it necessary to commit suicide! Maybe she figured there was no one to talk too....:(
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  • in_hiding79
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    cutback wrote:
    i wanted to off myself when i was 15.....hell i've thought of it since i was 10.....

    CB......:eek:

    That is so sad!! :(
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    cutback wrote:
    i wanted to off myself when i was 15.....hell i've thought of it since i was 10.....

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    CB......:eek:

    That is so sad!! :(

    no not so sad.....those feelings don't come around much anymore.... and i think those feelings are healthy....sounds weird to some i know, but it works for me :)
  • HushBull
    HushBull Posts: 996
    lukin2006 wrote:
    WTF - How could a 15 year olds problems be so bad that this was the only way out, and hard to believe that with all the resources devoted to kids these days she couldn't find the help needed.

    How could you not know this happens quite often.
    I'm surprised this even got coverage.
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  • vedderfan10
    vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    lukin2006 wrote:
    WTF - How could a 15 year olds problems be so bad that this was the only way out, and hard to believe that with all the resources devoted to kids these days she couldn't find the help needed.

    Hmm..... There is an illness called "depression" and when you have it, your thoughts become distorted, you feel worthless and hopeless, and ruminate obsessively about every bad thing that's ever happened to you....and every tiny seemingly innocuous comment makes you hate yourself even more - and you generally hide it from people. Sometimes people kill themselves rather than admitting their shame and disgust at themselves for not being able to "handle it", while others are able to get help...

    When you have a chemical imbalance in your brain, "problems" are irrelevant. Comments like yours above only serve to perpetuate the stigma attached to depression...which ultimately drives some people to suicide because they are too ashamed and embarrased to ask for help...
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  • haffajappa
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    when i was in high school, a few years ago i think i was in... grade 10? anyways we had three deaths that year: car crash, health problem, and suicide. it was weird, to the point that you'd get to school and you'd see people crying again and you'd realise 'it' happened again.

    apparently the girl who hung herself had told the councilor she was going to do it, and the councilor never did anything... the parents had no idea their daughter had felt that way.
    he got fired pretty quick.
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  • urbanhippie
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    Not everyone has an idyllic childhood... I was bullied at school and for a long time I looked for a way out.... It was only when my mum caught me deliberately hurting myself so I could stay off school the anyone realised how bad the situation had got.


    People sometimes use the phrase 'a cry for attention'...how sad that kids don't get the attention that they need already. Life can be hard no matter what your age... Being 15 is no picnic....


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  • muppet
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    Speaking as a teenager, I think most of us go through a period of feeling insecure of inferior. It's probably just teenage angst. The danger is with that is people sometimes dismiss cries for help as 'part of growing up' when in reality the person could actually be depressed.

    It's sad that a 15 year old girl killed herself, and it's also quite ignorant to imply that teenagers have no reason to be depressed,
  • audiodave
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    muppet wrote:
    It's sad that a 15 year old girl killed herself, and it's also quite ignorant to imply that teenagers have no reason to be depressed,
    It's usually people who have never been depressed who think this way. They don't know what it's like and think it isn't that serious. There seem to be a few posters on this board who think this way. Guess not everyone is that lucky...
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  • in_hiding79
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    It's terrible to know that this topic is very common! Fifteen Year Olds killing themselves is very tragic!! :(
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • Pauk
    Pauk Posts: 1,084
    I tried to commit suicide a few times when I was 12, the ironic thing is I got over it and then truly did nearly die. I can't find it hard to believe teenagers feel suicidal. There's a lot of pressure in the education system and from parents and peer pressure etc. etc. that the future does seem impossibly far away at times. It's only in retrospect that people realise it wasn't all that much.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    lukin2006 wrote:
    WTF - How could a 15 year olds problems be so bad that this was the only way out

    you're an idiot
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  • keeponrockin
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    A girl age 14 killed herself at our school this year.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    you're an idiot
    It was a question, not a statement, you douchebag. See I'm not American, we have plenty of help available or our citizens in all areas, our tax $$$$$$ don't go to just fund the invasion of other countries we actually care about our citizens. NOT JUST OIL.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    keeponrockin wrote:
    A girl age 14 killed herself at our school this year.
    tragic no matter why.
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  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    lukin2006 wrote:
    WTF - How could a 15 year olds problems be so bad that this was the only way out, and hard to believe that with all the resources devoted to kids these days she couldn't find the help needed.


    That is a really sad situation. Its hard to imagine what someone else's circumstance is....but you can certainly assume that she felt alone and helpless.

    Yes, there are alot of resources available to kids these days...however, more often than not the people who need help are also directed there, encouraged, or supported by loved ones. Thats the tricky thing about being depressed... you don't necesarily want or think you can feel better when you are in the throws of it.

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    shit parents have alot to do with how kids do ,i have 14yr old son and believe me communication is one of the things that we have in all aspects in our lives ...and i also have an 11yr old daughter ....
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