great fight! i was fixated (word?:D) on that one for the entire time. as much as i dislike koscheck, credit to him for hanging in there. he could have easily been finished in the first and a couple times after. he kept fighting on and alves landed those gorgeous leg kicks! picked him apart with the jabs and the leg kicks. smarter and tighter striking by koscheck, though.
a masterpiece by thiago! great takedown defense, beautiful striking! pitbull!!!!
great fight! i was fixated (word?:D) on that one for the entire time. as much as i dislike koscheck, credit to him for hanging in there. he could have easily been finished in the first and a couple times after. he kept fighting on and alves landed those gorgeous leg kicks! picked him apart with the jabs and the leg kicks. smarter and tighter striking by koscheck, though.
a masterpiece by thiago! great takedown defense, beautiful striking! pitbull!!!!
exactly... so you think that's fight of the night or the griffen/sherk fight
"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
umm 10-9 cote i guess since he was the aggressor but anderson definitely landed the better shots... i dunno i guess it could go either way but i'll give it to cote
"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
missed the 1st minute but wow that was a crazy takedown from silva... cote came flying in and he just moved out of the way and went on top... cote won't quite though, landing elbows from the bottom
that one goes to anderson 10-9 but still not dominating like i thought it would be
"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
cote is in the corner appologize and goldberg is so right, he has nothing to be sorry about, the dude stood in there with THE BEST and did not look out of place at all
"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
+1 to rogan
making note of the beard in honor of evan tanner. good on ya joe
that was nice.
man, i feel so bad for patrick. he was moving forward for almost the entire time, but he wasn't throwing a lot. he managed to get through some big strikes from anderson. anderson looked like he was just toying in the first and then fought a bit strange in two also. could have been an exciting third coming up. not sure why the crowd was booing patrick?
great night of fights overall! too bad about the ending to the main event. i feel bad for patrick, but he certainly did a lot better than most people thought he would do.
gray! pitbull! hermes! (although i'll have to watch the fight for the "unsportsmanlike conduct". ) sounds like matt horwich and dan miller had a good bout as well...i'm hoping matt put on a good showing despite the loss. i'd like to see him back and maybe on a main card sometime.
WOW! That is so awful for Cote. I'm not sure why they called it a TKO. Explanation?
yeah, unfortunately an injury is usually called a tko. i've seen a couple of either early cuts or injuries before any action really started called no contests before. that far into the fight, they'll rule it a tko. even the dreaded stoppage from eye poke is tko. :(
nice work leafs! huge score on this one! too bad all manador missed this one. no doubt she would have had 173 or 177. aside from patrick's unfortunate injury, a fun night for the show and the fantasy league.
awesome to have you guys around for the show tonight! i think i'm going to pack it in, maybe fall asleep watching the fights again...if that's possible! haha
no doubt all manador would have been close. She just texted me back and is in New York for rowing right now. We have to have at least one of us in shape if we are to make it across the atlantic for the dublin ufc.
Well the tko ruling got me some good points in fantasy but I feel like that shouldn't go on cote's record. yes he lost but due to injury not getting the bejesus beat out of him and requiring a ref stoppage.
UFC needs to challenge Silva
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
7 hours, 48 minutes ago
ROSEMONT, Ill. – Anderson Silva’s corner kept screaming at him to start acting like, well, Anderson Silva. UFC president Dana White said he thought he was in an “alternate universe” and wanted someone to slap him out of this bad dream.
At the end of the first round of their UFC 90 main event, Patrick Cote, after watching Silva bizarrely bow to him, shrugged in bafflement. That wasn’t even as unusual as the moment in the second round when Silva offered a hand to help Cote up off his back, rather than stomp him as you’d expect.
The Silva-Cote middleweight title fight ended in the third round when Cote blew out his knee without any contact. That was as strange, although not as much as the fight lasting to the third round in the first place.
“I was sitting there saying, ‘What the [expletive] is going on?’ ” White said.
Everyone showed up in suburban Chicago looking for Silva to deliver one of his Mike Tyson-esque destructions of Cote, the heavy underdog. This is what Silva fights are about, some violent combination of punches, knees and kicks that render opponents senseless.
“He’s a killer,” White said.
Not on Saturday. While Cote deserves credit for fearlessly standing in front of him, this was about Silva, arguably the best fighter in the world, deciding not to do much fighting.
He didn’t throw a purposeful punch for most of the first round. Rather than attack with his patented combinations, he danced, he pranced, he swayed and he even prayed. He did little hand tricks, Muhammad Ali feet shuffles and ran around in circles.
“If you don’t know him and you showed up for the first time, you’d [think] that guy was goofing around, he was acting arrogant and cocky and trying to play with [Cote] like he was a little kid,” White said. “That is not this guy’s style, that’s not his personality, that’s not who he is.”
No it isn’t. Silva, afterward, apologized for his performance yet also defended it, claiming he wasn’t out there playing and he was just throwing Cote off his game. He sounded as confused as everyone else.
The theories of what happened are endless. Perhaps he didn’t respect Cote and was unprepared. Perhaps he felt the need to deliver an entertaining show to the fans. Perhaps he was bored. Perhaps all the talk about switching to boxing or retiring outright, got to him. Perhaps he felt pressure to finish with a spectacular knockout.
Whatever it was, the solution is simple.
White needs to feed Silva opponents that’ll either motivate him to bring his “A” game or make him pay for any mental lapses.
Give him Chuck Liddell on Super Bowl weekend at UFC 94. If he survives that, give him Georges St. Pierre back at middleweight to headline the historic UFC 100 early next summer. Then have him go back to light heavyweight for a shot at whoever has the title after that.
Give him anything but what he’s gotten his last two fights, opponents that weren’t capable of hurting him and thus incapable of bringing out his best.
“I don’t know, I’ve got to think about it,” White said of Silva’s next opponent.
He would only smile at the suggestion of Liddell, the former light heavyweight champion, which means he’s certainly considering what would be a major pay-per-view draw. He did say he thought Silva wanted to return to 205 pounds for his next fight (Saturday’s was at 185).
Mostly White was searching for answers just like everyone else. Over the past two years Silva (23-4) has been his most reliable meal ticket. You put the Brazilian in the octagon and someone gets finished; often quickly and in spectacular fashion.
Until Saturday, no one in the UFC had lasted past the second round with the guy. He wasn’t just considered by many the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, but the most exciting.
He was the perfect headliner for the UFC’s first card in the Second City. Cote is a tough guy who wasn’t backing down, but few outside his diehard fans thought Silva would need more than a few minutes to send everyone home buzzing about the UFC.
Instead fans were booing at the end, as much at Silva as the disappointment of Cote’s knee giving out.
“I was sitting there going, ‘No, this isn’t happening,’ ” White said.
In the end, if this is what constitutes an off night and an emotional letdown for Silva, then it isn’t too bad. Cote got a couple shots in, but not nearly enough for the fight to be in doubt. It’s why White didn’t look too interested in an immediate rematch even if Cote was healthy.
So give Silva a challenge he can’t afford to sleepwalk through. End the Knockouts Across America parade, give up on the middleweight division he has annihilated and find him some mega-fights that will bring out his best.
Chuck Liddell is waiting at 205. GSP (no matter what happens against B.J. Penn) can move up and challenge at 185. Acquiring a second title has always been Silva’s dream and should motivate if he’s still rolling after that.
“I’ll tell you this,” White said. “I wouldn’t want to be the next dude that has to fight him because he’s not happy.”
Then raise the bar and bring it on.
I disagree that Cote was not a good challenge for Silva. Yes his record isn't fantastic but he is a good fighter and deserved a title shot. It had to have been frustrating to have Silva basically mocking him by not fighting for 2 rounds. Silva should be ashamed for not getting in there and exchanging. While not as bad as Kalib Starnes' non-fight at UFC 83, I hope White and Joe Silva read Anderson Silva the riot act afterwards. If Silva isn't going to respect every fighter that UFC puts in front of him by ACTUALLY fighting, then he doesn't deserve the title.
So you're saying that Silva might fight GSP???:eek: Holy shit that was exactly the question that I was just about to ask!! That would be an UNBELIEVABLE fight.... hopefully.:o
So the Silva/ Cote fight sucked, eh?
Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
WHAT THE FUCK was up with Anderson Silva? That had to be one of the dumbest fights I have ever seen. If it wasn't for the amazing performance but in by Thiago Alves and Sean Sherk I would have been pissed for for having to pay to see that fight.
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thanks for the article, releash. lots of conjecture about what was wrong with anderson on saturday night, i guess. i agree with you on what you said about patrick. okami was hurt, so he wasn't an option and patrick won the #1 contender match over almeida, so it's tough to say that someone else at 185 was a more worthy challenger.
when anderson did decide to throw something at him it was powerful and patrick didn't go down or back off, but it was strange that anderson wasn't following up. if the roles were reversed and it had been anderson following patrick around while patrick circled the cage then it's fair to say no for a rematch for him, but he came forward and seemingly wasn't afraid to trade. anderson just wasn't allowing too many opportunities for the exchanges to happen. you can see on the replay where patrick's knee goes out at 2:30 of the second round when he slipped on the bud light logo while throwing a right hand. if i recall correctly, that's the same knee injury that prevented him from fighting alan belcher in montreal. that's some bad luck for patrick.
with anderson talking about retirement and with so many very marketable fights with him remaining, and from the way dana white is talking, it doesn't sound like a rematch is on the adgenda. it's too bad for patrick. personally, i'd like to see him get another shot at fighting anderson, an anderson that is on his game for the fight.
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a masterpiece by thiago! great takedown defense, beautiful striking! pitbull!!!!
Good win for Alves!
btw, I'm happy that rogan kept his evan tanner beard.
exactly... so you think that's fight of the night or the griffen/sherk fight
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
oooh....i hadn't thought about that yet. excited for the main event and happy with the show so far! tough call. i think i'm biased as an alves fan...
+1 on the tribute beard, releash!
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
me too leafs!!!! It's not Pearl Jam's whipping (my personal choice of entrance music) but definitely a good one.
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
that one goes to anderson 10-9 but still not dominating like i thought it would be
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
ya it seems like silva doesn't know what to do with cote...
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
man that sucks cause he was still in this fight. i can't believe that just happened
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
ya i thought it should be a ref stoppage or something like that
edit: probably a no contest
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
Congrats on the fantasy victory leafs. I tried my best to take the title but alas you were too impressive.
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
i agree completely, cote was in there for a fight, did a lot better than most people were expecting.
thanks releash you gave it a good go though... great night of fights, easily the card of the month lol
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
making note of the beard in honor of evan tanner. good on ya joe
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
that was nice.
man, i feel so bad for patrick. he was moving forward for almost the entire time, but he wasn't throwing a lot. he managed to get through some big strikes from anderson. anderson looked like he was just toying in the first and then fought a bit strange in two also. could have been an exciting third coming up. not sure why the crowd was booing patrick?
great night of fights overall! too bad about the ending to the main event. i feel bad for patrick, but he certainly did a lot better than most people thought he would do.
gray! pitbull! hermes! (although i'll have to watch the fight for the "unsportsmanlike conduct". ) sounds like matt horwich and dan miller had a good bout as well...i'm hoping matt put on a good showing despite the loss. i'd like to see him back and maybe on a main card sometime.
yeah, unfortunately an injury is usually called a tko. i've seen a couple of either early cuts or injuries before any action really started called no contests before. that far into the fight, they'll rule it a tko. even the dreaded stoppage from eye poke is tko. :(
UFC 90 SILVA vs COTE :: LEAGUE RESULTS
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have a good one, my friends!
Well the tko ruling got me some good points in fantasy but I feel like that shouldn't go on cote's record. yes he lost but due to injury not getting the bejesus beat out of him and requiring a ref stoppage.
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
7 hours, 48 minutes ago
ROSEMONT, Ill. – Anderson Silva’s corner kept screaming at him to start acting like, well, Anderson Silva. UFC president Dana White said he thought he was in an “alternate universe” and wanted someone to slap him out of this bad dream.
At the end of the first round of their UFC 90 main event, Patrick Cote, after watching Silva bizarrely bow to him, shrugged in bafflement. That wasn’t even as unusual as the moment in the second round when Silva offered a hand to help Cote up off his back, rather than stomp him as you’d expect.
The Silva-Cote middleweight title fight ended in the third round when Cote blew out his knee without any contact. That was as strange, although not as much as the fight lasting to the third round in the first place.
“I was sitting there saying, ‘What the [expletive] is going on?’ ” White said.
Everyone showed up in suburban Chicago looking for Silva to deliver one of his Mike Tyson-esque destructions of Cote, the heavy underdog. This is what Silva fights are about, some violent combination of punches, knees and kicks that render opponents senseless.
“He’s a killer,” White said.
Not on Saturday. While Cote deserves credit for fearlessly standing in front of him, this was about Silva, arguably the best fighter in the world, deciding not to do much fighting.
He didn’t throw a purposeful punch for most of the first round. Rather than attack with his patented combinations, he danced, he pranced, he swayed and he even prayed. He did little hand tricks, Muhammad Ali feet shuffles and ran around in circles.
“If you don’t know him and you showed up for the first time, you’d [think] that guy was goofing around, he was acting arrogant and cocky and trying to play with [Cote] like he was a little kid,” White said. “That is not this guy’s style, that’s not his personality, that’s not who he is.”
No it isn’t. Silva, afterward, apologized for his performance yet also defended it, claiming he wasn’t out there playing and he was just throwing Cote off his game. He sounded as confused as everyone else.
The theories of what happened are endless. Perhaps he didn’t respect Cote and was unprepared. Perhaps he felt the need to deliver an entertaining show to the fans. Perhaps he was bored. Perhaps all the talk about switching to boxing or retiring outright, got to him. Perhaps he felt pressure to finish with a spectacular knockout.
Whatever it was, the solution is simple.
White needs to feed Silva opponents that’ll either motivate him to bring his “A” game or make him pay for any mental lapses.
Give him Chuck Liddell on Super Bowl weekend at UFC 94. If he survives that, give him Georges St. Pierre back at middleweight to headline the historic UFC 100 early next summer. Then have him go back to light heavyweight for a shot at whoever has the title after that.
Give him anything but what he’s gotten his last two fights, opponents that weren’t capable of hurting him and thus incapable of bringing out his best.
“I don’t know, I’ve got to think about it,” White said of Silva’s next opponent.
He would only smile at the suggestion of Liddell, the former light heavyweight champion, which means he’s certainly considering what would be a major pay-per-view draw. He did say he thought Silva wanted to return to 205 pounds for his next fight (Saturday’s was at 185).
Mostly White was searching for answers just like everyone else. Over the past two years Silva (23-4) has been his most reliable meal ticket. You put the Brazilian in the octagon and someone gets finished; often quickly and in spectacular fashion.
Until Saturday, no one in the UFC had lasted past the second round with the guy. He wasn’t just considered by many the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, but the most exciting.
He was the perfect headliner for the UFC’s first card in the Second City. Cote is a tough guy who wasn’t backing down, but few outside his diehard fans thought Silva would need more than a few minutes to send everyone home buzzing about the UFC.
Instead fans were booing at the end, as much at Silva as the disappointment of Cote’s knee giving out.
“I was sitting there going, ‘No, this isn’t happening,’ ” White said.
In the end, if this is what constitutes an off night and an emotional letdown for Silva, then it isn’t too bad. Cote got a couple shots in, but not nearly enough for the fight to be in doubt. It’s why White didn’t look too interested in an immediate rematch even if Cote was healthy.
So give Silva a challenge he can’t afford to sleepwalk through. End the Knockouts Across America parade, give up on the middleweight division he has annihilated and find him some mega-fights that will bring out his best.
Chuck Liddell is waiting at 205. GSP (no matter what happens against B.J. Penn) can move up and challenge at 185. Acquiring a second title has always been Silva’s dream and should motivate if he’s still rolling after that.
“I’ll tell you this,” White said. “I wouldn’t want to be the next dude that has to fight him because he’s not happy.”
Then raise the bar and bring it on.
I disagree that Cote was not a good challenge for Silva. Yes his record isn't fantastic but he is a good fighter and deserved a title shot. It had to have been frustrating to have Silva basically mocking him by not fighting for 2 rounds. Silva should be ashamed for not getting in there and exchanging. While not as bad as Kalib Starnes' non-fight at UFC 83, I hope White and Joe Silva read Anderson Silva the riot act afterwards. If Silva isn't going to respect every fighter that UFC puts in front of him by ACTUALLY fighting, then he doesn't deserve the title.
So the Silva/ Cote fight sucked, eh?
when anderson did decide to throw something at him it was powerful and patrick didn't go down or back off, but it was strange that anderson wasn't following up. if the roles were reversed and it had been anderson following patrick around while patrick circled the cage then it's fair to say no for a rematch for him, but he came forward and seemingly wasn't afraid to trade. anderson just wasn't allowing too many opportunities for the exchanges to happen. you can see on the replay where patrick's knee goes out at 2:30 of the second round when he slipped on the bud light logo while throwing a right hand. if i recall correctly, that's the same knee injury that prevented him from fighting alan belcher in montreal. that's some bad luck for patrick.
with anderson talking about retirement and with so many very marketable fights with him remaining, and from the way dana white is talking, it doesn't sound like a rematch is on the adgenda. it's too bad for patrick. personally, i'd like to see him get another shot at fighting anderson, an anderson that is on his game for the fight.