Thats not my job line was used daily when I worked in the casinos. I was a food and beverage manager and if you asked a bus boy to do something to help during the busy times that was not his job....forget it. And you can make him do it, but then he will file a grevience and its a bunch of bull shit.
Fucking hate unions
Hell yea! If you are a manager in the casino you bust your ass. The problem is that you are not allowed to do a union members job. Even if its busy. WTF?
So I ask another member to do it because we are short staffed and you get a hassel.
I would always get in trouble for helping guys to stuff and the shop steward would give me a hard time.
No laziness here.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
i am not nor have i ever been in a union. my husband has been in a union almost his entire working life. in his line of work it is pretty much a given. his union really does nothing for him tho, and for years he has considered leaving, but for various reasons has not. eh, at the very least the dues are an annual tax deduction. bleh.
that said, calling union workers lazy is insulting to say the least. that is like saying anyone who misuses apostrophes or grammar is unintelligent or lazy. basically, it simply is not true. there may be plenty of lazy union workers, but i'd hazard a guess and say there are many lazy workers period, unionized or not. beyond that, i would say more are NOT lazy than are, but it's all a matter of opinion until some scientific study is done to show being a union member makes one lazy.
as mentioned, my husband has been in a union for 20+ years and he is ANYthing but lazy, gets commendations often and is highly valued. most public school teachers are unionized, and say what you will about time off and the like - as a former teacher i know all too well how needed it is! - to dismiss such an educated base of workers, most who work ridiculously hard for their students is well, baseless.
unions aren't nearly as needed as they once were, and some are abused/abusive....but i do not think they are entirely without merit. i think certain professions do still need some representation and protections, but as with most things...no one system is 'perfect.'
btw - BOTH 'you're's in your sig should be written as 'you're.'
you are saying 'you are'....not 'your ........' just sayin'......
Hell yea! If you are a manager in the casino you bust your ass. The problem is that you are not allowed to do a union members job. Even if its busy. WTF?
So I asl another member to do it because we are short staffed and you get a hassel.
I'm surprised you're not allowed to do the job, especially bus-boy that's just cleaning tables basically.
I guessing the reason for him not to help - the company would have to call someone in, extra shift, overtime or hire another person, even if part-time.
I didn't say I agree with everything a union is, however, if I have a choice, I'd always choose working for one.
i am not nor have i ever been in a union. my husband has been in a union almost his entire working life. in his line of work it is pretty much a given. his union really does nothing for him tho, and for years he has considered leaving, but for various reasons has not. eh, at the very least the dues are an annual tax deduction. bleh.
that said, calling union workers lazy is insulting to say the least. that is like saying anyone who misuses apostrophes or grammar is unintelligent or lazy. basically, it simply is not true. there may be plenty of lazy union workers, but i'd hazard a guess and say there are many lazy workers period, unionized or not. beyond that, i would say more are NOT lazy than are, but it's all a matter of opinion until some scientific study is done to show being a union member makes one lazy.
as mentioned, my husband has been in a union for 20+ years and he is ANYthing but lazy, gets commendations often and is highly valued. most public school teachers are unionized, and say what you will about time off and the like - as a former teacher i know all too well how needed it is! - to dismiss such an educated base of workers, most who work ridiculously hard for their students is well, baseless.
unions aren't nearly as needed as they once were, and some are abused/abusive....but i do not think they are entirely without merit. i think certain professions do still need some representation and protections, but as with most things...no one system is 'perfect.'
I totally agree about the teachers. But anyone I have worked with that was in a union was a lazy ass bum. Have I worked with your husband? lol kidding:D
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
i am not nor have i ever been in a union. my husband has been in a union almost his entire working life. in his line of work it is pretty much a given. his union really does nothing for him tho, and for years he has considered leaving, but for various reasons has not. eh, at the very least the dues are an annual tax deduction. bleh.
that said, calling union workers lazy is insulting to say the least. that is like saying anyone who misuses apostrophes or grammar is unintelligent or lazy. basically, it simply is not true. there may be plenty of lazy union workers, but i'd hazard a guess and say there are many lazy workers period, unionized or not. beyond that, i would say more are NOT lazy than are, but it's all a matter of opinion until some scientific study is done to show being a union member makes one lazy.
as mentioned, my husband has been in a union for 20+ years and he is ANYthing but lazy, gets commendations often and is highly valued. most public school teachers are unionized, and say what you will about time off and the like - as a former teacher i know all too well how needed it is! - to dismiss such an educated base of workers, most who work ridiculously hard for their students is well, baseless.
unions aren't nearly as needed as they once were, and some are abused/abusive....but i do not think they are entirely without merit. i think certain professions do still need some representation and protections, but as with most things...no one system is 'perfect.'
btw - BOTH 'you're's in your sig should be written as 'you're.'
you are saying 'you are'....not 'your ........' just sayin'......
What she said.
God, AG... I truly despise every single one of your political stances.
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
Thank you. It burns me to no end! I am lead on a ton of projects at my company and you have no idea how many fucking loop holes I have to go through to get anything done. And the sad part of it is that everything I do is to benefit the company and make the employees lives easier, and they still fight it! Sometimes over 10 fucking cents an hour!!
I totally agree about the teachers. But anyone I have worked with that was in a union was a lazy ass bum. Have I worked with your husband? lol kidding:D
well that is your personal experience, nothing more, nothing less. certainly does not make it fact. and as i said, i would guess there are PLENTY of 'lazy ass bums' in all lines of work, unionized or not. there are abuses on both sides of the union issue, so again, certainly not truly defending them....but they are here, some still see purpose and thus get support/members.....and so it goes.
and doubtful, unless you are in federal law enforcement.
as our dear conor would tell you .....it's a personal annoyance of mine when people parade personal opinion as fact, or present an 'always' view of something when clearly, it isn't 'always' the case, not by a long shot. are there lazy ass bums in unions? you bet. are most union members lazy ass bums? i personally think not. c'est la vie.
well that is your personal experience, nothing more, nothing less. certainly does not make it fact. and as i said, i would guess there are PLENTY of 'lazy ass bums' in all lines of work, unionized or not. there are abuses on both sides of the union issue, so again, certainly not truly defending them....but they are here, some still see purpose and thus get support/members.....and so it goes.
and doubtful, unless you are in federal law enforcement.
as our dear conor would tell you .....it's a personal annoyance of mine when people parade personal opinion as fact, or present an 'always' view of something when clearly, it isn't 'always' the case, not by a long shot. are there lazy ass bums in unions? you bet. are most union members lazy ass bums? i personally think not. c'est la vie.
Of course its not a fact. Who said its a fact that unions suck? I just gave my opinion and from what I have read, many in here agree.
I bet one of the reasons your husband thinks of leaving it because he works hard and hates it when the other guy does not. Nothing worse then a guy doing the same job as you but slower and not as well.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Of course its not a fact. Who said its a fact that unions suck? I just gave my opinion and from what I have read, many in here agree.
I bet one of the reasons your husband thinks of leaving it because he works hard and hates it when the other guy does not. Nothing worse then a guy doing the same job as you but slower and not as well.
and i gave my opinion. and so it goes.
i wasn't 'arguing' with you, or anyone here...i would never bother to waste my time. i too was merely sharing my personal perspective.
as to my husband's reasons, they are myriad, but i do not care to discuss his personal pov. obviously, there is good and bad in it, as many differing situations. he is a 'believer' in strong unions, but he is not particularly happy with HIS union. beyond that....tmi.
btw - i am NOT unionized and there are people who do the same job as me, or at least share the same title, and do NOT do anywhere near as much work as i do, and some even get paid a helluva a lot more! so it is not an 'easy' solution, being unionized or not. as mentioned, certain professions it is more prevalent, and perhaps more needed. time will tell....
If a union member does not want to do something because it is not in his/her classification, he/she does not have to...But if you offer to do it for them they will say; "as a non-union member, you are stealing work from the union". It's almost comical.
They are building a new Walgreen's near my house and for the first part of the construction they had these retired Union guys picketing with a huge Blow up Rat standing there while the Non-Union guys worked
They picket because its not a Union job
Give me a fuckin break...these guys can work for a company thats non-union
Get a life..I work for a business that Union contracts for the hourly employees, luckily Im not in the Union..every contract is a pissing match in which the company doesn't bend and the Union doesn't get what it wants anyway...but their dues always manage to go up
Fuckin Scam
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The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
the guys at the loading dock are all Teamsters. LAZY! So fucking lazy and it baffels me.
Q: How many Teamsters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Four.............YOU GOT A FUCKING PROBLEM WIT DAT????
Me? Union member since 1986.
If I had known then what I know now...
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St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
shouldn't that be 4 to supervise while the "apprentice" actually does it?
yeah....with a kickback to the Mob! :eek:
If I had known then what I know now...
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VIC 07
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I totally agree about the teachers. But anyone I have worked with that was in a union was a lazy ass bum. Have I worked with your husband? lol kidding:D
You work in a fucking casino. You have to deal with 1 union in 1 city. Jerseys gotta have 40 or 50 different unions. So your saying that all the union people you worked with were lazy, huh.
Oh, nevermind. I get it. It must be just people from Jersey are lazy.
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Sweep the Leg Johnny.
did you help?
So I ask another member to do it because we are short staffed and you get a hassel.
I would always get in trouble for helping guys to stuff and the shop steward would give me a hard time.
No laziness here.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
that said, calling union workers lazy is insulting to say the least. that is like saying anyone who misuses apostrophes or grammar is unintelligent or lazy. basically, it simply is not true. there may be plenty of lazy union workers, but i'd hazard a guess and say there are many lazy workers period, unionized or not. beyond that, i would say more are NOT lazy than are, but it's all a matter of opinion until some scientific study is done to show being a union member makes one lazy.
as mentioned, my husband has been in a union for 20+ years and he is ANYthing but lazy, gets commendations often and is highly valued. most public school teachers are unionized, and say what you will about time off and the like - as a former teacher i know all too well how needed it is!
unions aren't nearly as needed as they once were, and some are abused/abusive....but i do not think they are entirely without merit. i think certain professions do still need some representation and protections, but as with most things...no one system is 'perfect.'
btw - BOTH 'you're's in your sig should be written as 'you're.'
you are saying 'you are'....not 'your ........' just sayin'......
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I'm surprised you're not allowed to do the job, especially bus-boy that's just cleaning tables basically.
I guessing the reason for him not to help - the company would have to call someone in, extra shift, overtime or hire another person, even if part-time.
I didn't say I agree with everything a union is, however, if I have a choice, I'd always choose working for one.
I totally agree about the teachers. But anyone I have worked with that was in a union was a lazy ass bum. Have I worked with your husband? lol
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
What she said.
God, AG... I truly despise every single one of your political stances.
Wanna get a drink sometime? LOL
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Thank you. It burns me to no end! I am lead on a ton of projects at my company and you have no idea how many fucking loop holes I have to go through to get anything done. And the sad part of it is that everything I do is to benefit the company and make the employees lives easier, and they still fight it! Sometimes over 10 fucking cents an hour!!
well that is your personal experience, nothing more, nothing less. certainly does not make it fact. and as i said, i would guess there are PLENTY of 'lazy ass bums' in all lines of work, unionized or not. there are abuses on both sides of the union issue, so again, certainly not truly defending them....but they are here, some still see purpose and thus get support/members.....and so it goes.
and doubtful, unless you are in federal law enforcement.
as our dear conor would tell you
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
what she said.
I bet one of the reasons your husband thinks of leaving it because he works hard and hates it when the other guy does not. Nothing worse then a guy doing the same job as you but slower and not as well.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
S.O.C.I.A.L.I.S.M. is here to stay
S.O.C.I.A.L.I.S.M. is the only way
and i gave my opinion. and so it goes.
i wasn't 'arguing' with you, or anyone here...i would never bother to waste my time. i too was merely sharing my personal perspective.
as to my husband's reasons, they are myriad, but i do not care to discuss his personal pov. obviously, there is good and bad in it, as many differing situations. he is a 'believer' in strong unions, but he is not particularly happy with HIS union. beyond that....tmi.
btw - i am NOT unionized and there are people who do the same job as me, or at least share the same title, and do NOT do anywhere near as much work as i do, and some even get paid a helluva a lot more! so it is not an 'easy' solution, being unionized or not. as mentioned, certain professions it is more prevalent, and perhaps more needed. time will tell....
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
You are not allowed to help!
If a union member does not want to do something because it is not in his/her classification, he/she does not have to...But if you offer to do it for them they will say; "as a non-union member, you are stealing work from the union". It's almost comical.
They picket because its not a Union job
Give me a fuckin break...these guys can work for a company thats non-union
Get a life..I work for a business that Union contracts for the hourly employees, luckily Im not in the Union..every contract is a pissing match in which the company doesn't bend and the Union doesn't get what it wants anyway...but their dues always manage to go up
Fuckin Scam
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
Q: How many Teamsters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Four.............YOU GOT A FUCKING PROBLEM WIT DAT????
Me? Union member since 1986.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
You work in a fucking casino. You have to deal with 1 union in 1 city. Jerseys gotta have 40 or 50 different unions. So your saying that all the union people you worked with were lazy, huh.
Oh, nevermind. I get it. It must be just people from Jersey are lazy.
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