65 dollars?

100 Pacer

fanch75 wrote:

Fair enough, your edited post pretty much agrees with what Im saying. They charge what they can, because they can, and there's a profit motive, and you're fine with this.

That's a bit different (or at least I took it a bit different) than your original statement that he had to charge this in order to make a "modest profit."

when i used the term "modest profit" i had the following in mind: Ed is out there for his own pleasure, to perform for a receptive audience, to earn a living etc. BUT given that his audience is open, willing, and ready to fork over the $65 why should he NOT be allowed to earn the modest profit i mentioned,...i didn't mean it the way you read it, that PJ should be altruistic in their concert fee charges according to the naive fans - i meant that Ed should NOT play for free, but at the same time he won't be clearing $100,000 gross profit off every show,...realistically speaking, i think Ed will take ~$25,000 per concert after all charges (ticket revenue and clothing/poster sales)

BUT i truly do NOT believe that there is profit "motive", Ed didn't go into this with a "how much can we charge" mentality in my humble opinion. HOWEVER, i do think, since he'll be donating a generous amount to the WM3 off this tour that he'd LIKE to earn as MUCH as possible for them while at the same time making it affordable enough for some average-income fans to attend, as opposed to those that would be more than willing and able to spend $1000 per ticket.

fanch75

rockpants wrote:

Booking fees for piss-tank clubs aren't as high as nice theatres holding a few thousand people. You can only charge what people will pay for. I kinda doubt people would pay more than $20 for an LA Guns nostalgia trip.

If he can charge $65 for the gig, then again I'm totally cool with that. I'm still grinning about the "Jamily" justifications for it, believing that PJ is evolved beyond profit motive. That's my only point. I don't care if he charges $2000 per ticket.

So, enjoy. Me personally, I'm not willing to pay to fly across the country to hear Vedder sit on a stool and play acoustic/protest/riot act/into the wild songs with a 15 minute spoken-word vigil on the evils of tax cuts & consumerism thrown in the middle.

I'd rather pay $20 and see LA Guns (a band, by comparison, that actually has to tour to make a living) sing songs about running around Hollywood being awesome instead of paying $65 to have Vedder preach to me about the evils of consumerism right before he and his entourage jump into a limo.

pjtradeking

Fuck me, that didnt take long.....

electronblue

smile75 wrote:

id pay 65$ to see ed

me too if i had 65$ besides i don't think
ed should be sold too cheaply..more like fine vintage wines...~

digster

rockpants wrote:

Notice I said "'round these parts". Then notice my location.

Boss tickets are: $115, $67.50 (w/ E Street, though).
Rush tickets are: $85, $65, $45.
Tom Jones is playing the same venue as Eddie is, and his ticket prices are:
$89.50 and $75.
radiohead's date won't be for awhile, but in the past - 5 years ago - they were in the $60-range. I would expect them to be between $65 and $100 this time around.
DMB - I think they were on par with Rush, but I can't say for sure.

I got a Springsteen solo ticket for 55 back when he did his Devils and Dust tour...I believe 65 dollars gets you in the door to an E Street Band show this tour, or at least that's what I saw for the Giants Stadium shows. I mention DMB cause they're often compared to Pearl Jam as being one of the 'affordable' big acts; they were also 55 dollars to 65 for their most recent tours. Like most acts these tickets have all been raising in the past ten years.

I had a ticket for the 2006 Radiohead tour (although I didn't get a chance to go), and I believe it was around 57 dollars without Ticketmaster fees. You also have to keep in mind these are all full band shows; the prices are being split among five to seven band members, with a traveling crew, catering for them all, etc. These coming shows are likely to be one singer/songwriter with a bunch of guitars. It's just a surprisingly steep price. Also, PJ and Eddie have toured and treated their fans with such integrity over the decades is a double-edged sword; while it's what makes us all rabid fans who follow them around, it also makes it more likely that we'll call foul if we think that they're charging too much.

I mean, I know that many teenagers who love his music probably wouldn't be able to go to one of these shows; 65 dollars plus charges is a shitload of money for someone who has a part time job delivering a paper and a ten buck allowance from the parents.

High Fidelity 2000

fanch75 wrote:

I'd rather pay $20 and see LA Guns (a band, by comparison, that actually has to tour to make a living) sing songs about running around Hollywood being awesome instead of paying $65 to have Vedder preach to me about the evils of consumerism right before he and his entourage jump into a limo.

Wow, sounds like LA Guns earned a new fan! Awesome indeed.

100 Pacer

SOLAT319 wrote:

Were they environmentally concious cars?

LOL as i was typing that line, i was thinking to myself "would i get banned for discussing this?", but i don't see that happening, so here goes: on the afternoon of the Benaroya Hall performance, the band members drove the following cars into the venue:

- Jeff drove a black Audi A4 (late-90s model)
- Mike drove a silver BMW 528i (late-90s model)
- Stone drove a navy blue Volvo C70 (early-00s model)
- Matt drove a black BMW M3 (mid-90s model)

pjtradeking

100 Pacer wrote:

LOL as i was typing that line, i was thinking to myself "would i get banned for discussing this?", but i don't see that happening, so here goes: on the afternoon of the Benaroya Hall performance, the band members drove the following cars into the venue:

- Jeff drove a black Audi A4 (late-90s model)
- Mike drove a silver BMW 528i (late-90s model)
- Stone drove a navy blue Volvo C70 (early-00s model)
- Matt drove a black BMW M3 (mid-90s model)

And didnt ed show up in his 70's volvo wagon or his 70's Nova? Thought I heard that...:D

100 Pacer

pjtradeking wrote:

And didnt ed show up in his 70's volvo wagon or his 70's Nova? Thought I heard that...:D

i can't speak to that because i didn't see/hear that.

Ledbetterman10

rockpants wrote:

Standard concert fare these days for international acts, at least around these parts.

Eddie Vedder isn't an international act....Pearl Jam is. $65 is too much for Ed solo.

I'd argue that the band is very much about making money nowadays and that's understandable. I mean, they probably didn't make the money from '92 to '95 that the biggest band in the world is supposed to make with the non-ticketmaster tour and stuff to that effect. Tickets for the Binaural tour were $35 and tickets for the Riot Act tour were $55. I've heard people on here say that that is because of inflation. a twenty dollar price difference for concert tickets over 3 years? yeah right. that band changed their ways. hurts me in the pocket but $60 is very fair to see an act like Pearl Jam. but as I said before, it's way to much to see Ed solo.

pjtradeking

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Eddie Vedder isn't an international act....Pearl Jam is. $65 is too much for Ed solo.

I'd argue that the band is very much about making money nowadays and that's understandable. I mean, they probably didn't make the money from '92 to '95 that the biggest band in the world is supposed to make with the non-ticketmaster tour and stuff to that effect. Tickets for the Binaural tour were $35 and tickets for the Riot Act tour were $55. I've heard people on here say that that is because of inflation. a twenty dollar price difference for concert tickets over 3 years? yeah right. that band changed their ways. hurts me in the pocket but $60 is very fair to see an act like Pearl Jam. but as I said before, it's way to much to see Ed solo.

It will only be too much if it turns out that he doesnt sell out any or all of the venues. If he does, then it wont be at all now will it? I am not arguing with your feelings on the subject, just looking at it from a different perspecive. At the end of the day, isnt it all about supply and demand? PJ or no PJ, Ed is a draw. imho

binauralsounds

pjtradeking wrote:

PJ or no PJ, Ed is a draw. imho

I have to disagree. Outside diehard pearl jam fans, Ed Vedder alone is not a big draw. Will be interesting to see how full each venue is. Sure there will be rabid PJ fans there, but outside of that, I don't see the casual pearl jam fan showing up for an Ed set.

andreasjunge

The tickets are $65 because after bitching when it is announced everybody pays it the day the tickets go on sale without hesitation.

Still, I grant you it is kind of weird thinking about PJ ticket prices 15 years ago...

pjtradeking

binauralsounds wrote:

I have to disagree. Outside diehard pearl jam fans, Ed Vedder alone is not a big draw. Will be interesting to see how full each venue is. Sure there will be rabid PJ fans there, but outside of that, I don't see the casual pearl jam fan showing up for an Ed set.

Agreed...What I should have said was that with the size of then venue there will be enough "diehards" that this will be a success. I was trying to say that for PJ fans, this will work. Outside of that, I think you are def right.

Ledbetterman10

pjtradeking wrote:

It will only be too much if it turns out that he doesnt sell out any or all of the venues. If he does, then it wont be at all now will it? I am not arguing with your feelings on the subject, just looking at it from a different perspecive. At the end of the day, isnt it all about supply and demand? PJ or no PJ, Ed is a draw. imho

I totally agree. supply and demand. people will pay for tickets and he'll probably sell out most venues.

It just seems to me that Vedder and Pearl Jam used to be for the 'little guy.' ya know, the college couple who is broke but still drove two hours to see them. but now, I think this guy sums up why Eddie's solo ticket prices are so high pretty well:

fanch75 wrote:

Because socialites only perform for the Bourgeoisie

andreasjunge

Last summer, PJ were supposed to play Düsseldorf; germany, in a football stadium in front of 50,000 people. Tickets were about $70.

They changed venues, playing for 12,000 in a hockey arena instead. Organization was so bad that out of the six times I've seen them, this was by far the worst PJ show.

This might not happen to Ed solo, but the bottom line is:

I'd still pay that price and so will enough people so that the shows will be sold out.

Unfortunately it is not even worth arguing about - maybe PJ see it the same way these days and choose not to argue.

pjtradeking

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I totally agree. supply and demand. people will pay for tickets and he'll probably sell out most venues.

It just seems to me that Vedder and Pearl Jam used to be for the 'little guy.' ya know, the college couple who is broke but still drove two hours to see them. but now, I think this guy sums up why Eddie's solo ticket prices are so high pretty well:

I agree with that as well. I see it a couple different ways. You know, it was easy bck in the 90's to be angry and fight for the little guy and all the things that go with that. I think they sacrificed some of the rewards they could have reaped back then both on principal, and that they truly wanted it to be about the music and doing things their way.

As they have gotten older, while I still think that the core principals they live by are still intact(speaking up for what you believe in, give to charity, go in a musical direction THEY want be damned how it sells) I also think that at some point it had to be about making sure that their families and themselves for tht matter are well taken care of for their lifetime. Maybe it has something to do with them thinking that alot of their fans have grown with them and can afford to pay higher prices, and the price of putting something on has become more expensive as well.

I think there are many many reason for the ticket increases, and while I think some are justified and some arent, as I said, I think some of it has to be about them sometime. I dont think it has ever been all about us as fans, but I do believe that they do care about their fans and know that without us they would have nothing too. Maybe that is a little too romantic of a way to look at it, but that is how I feel about it. Not saying that it is right...Just saying.:)

He_Who_Forgets

I like how people are comparing the prices to the prices of artist they saw in past years...doesn't anybody know the price for things goes up?

I think people will be shocked on what the ticket prices will be if they tour...i'd guess $75ish a ticket, $140-160 for a pair depending on location/venue.

digster

He_Who_Forgets wrote:

I like how people are comparing the prices to the prices of artist they saw in past years...doesn't anybody know the price for things goes up?

I think people will be shocked on what the ticket prices will be if they tour...i'd guess $75ish a ticket, $140-160 for a pair depending on location/venue.

I think the best way to judge how fair prices are is to compare them to other musical acts that are also touring; no doubt, inflation is an issue, although as a previous poster mentioned, 35 dollars to 55 between the Binaural and Riot Act is pretty steep. So that's why I brought up other acts, and even taking those into account these prices seem a little high. I mean, I love PJ but I'm also willing to call a spade a spade, and 65 dollars is more than other acts that are of equal or even greater name recognition. My main question would be is wondering if almost all of this is profit. Again, assuming it is a 'solo' show with just Eddie and some guitars, it would be a pretty cheap tour to put on.

Obviously, the band and Eddie CAN do it and get away with it; the majority of their fans are probably people who were in their teens and early 20s in the early 90s, who are now in their mid to late 30's and making some change. It just means that certain portions of their fanbase, particularly younger fans who have climbed onboard more recently, will be unwilling or unable to go.

hopethatuchoke

Tickets to an arena Foo Fighters show with a big stage setup and lights and multiple opening acts are $45. Ed sitting on a chair on the stage is $20 more than that? I was pretty shocked at how outrageous the prices were. I think Lenny Kravitz just played here for like $30. More power to him, I would certainly pay $65 for a ticket if it was the east coast, but long gone are the days of reasonable tickets from the Pearl Jam camp.