65 dollars?

LeilaMoonTurtle
LeilaMoonTurtle Posts: 1,418
edited February 2008 in The Porch
why $65 for Ed shows?
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,322
    why $65 for Ed shows?

    transportation of equipment and personnel, hotel/food/catering costs, venue rentals, insurance fees, portion of revenues donated to charity and a modest profit don't come cheap,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Because socialites only perform for the Bourgeoisie
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • Sawyer wrote:
    ....because he's generous....consider yourself lucky.
    Here here.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    fanch75 wrote:
    Because socialites only perform for the Bourgeoisie

    Ding ding ding.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • 65 isnt too bad.

    keeps the commoners and peasants out. :)
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    100 Pacer wrote:
    transportation of equipment and personnel, hotel/food/catering costs, venue rentals, insurance fees, portion of revenues donated to charity and a modest profit don't come cheap,...

    LOL

    Modest profit.

    Just like the "reason" the band doesn't play the South is because they can't make any money playing venues that are "only" 75% full.

    :rolleyes:

    Yet 80's rock bands like LA Guns can tour clubs and charge only $10-$15 per ticket and play in front of 150-300 people, and yet somehow stay on the road and be profitable.

    I don't mind that Vedder makes a shitload of money, but I just love Jamily-created justifications so they can go to bed at night dreaming that Pearl Jam Inc doesn't have a profit motivation. It does! It's up to you to decide if it's okay or not. I'm fine with it.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,322
    fanch75 wrote:
    LOL

    Modest profit.

    Just like the "reason" the band doesn't play the South is because they can't make any money playing venues that are "only" 75% full.

    :rolleyes:

    Yet 80's rock bands like LA Guns can tour clubs and charge only $10-$15 per ticket and somehow stay on the road and be profitable.

    I don't mind that Vedder makes a shitload of money, but I just love Jamily-created justifications so they can go to bed at night dreaming that Pearl Jam Inc doesn't have a profit motivation. It does! It's up to you to decide if it's okay or not. I'm fine with it.

    there's a difference between not making AS MUCH money as hoped, and LOSING money (logistical and production costs remain constant despite box-office appeal),...i frankly don't blame PJ for not choosing to play at Southern US venues simply because it's not worth it financially COUPLED WITH the fact venues aren't 100% sold out, b/c if the demand to sell-out venues instantly was there then PJ, i think, WOULD play the South without thinking twice.

    i, for one, have NEVER bought into the so-called "Jamily-created justifications so they can go to bed at night dreaming that Pearl Jam Inc doesn't have a profit motivation." as you put it lol, i.e. i have no qualms about the $5,000,000 - $6,000,000 the 10C likely generates on 10C memberships every year alone. PJ is a business, and revenue is stretched to afford lengthy breaks in-between tours (which are the real revenue generators for the band). and i have no issues with Ed charing $65 per ticket. i can tell, after watching each of the band members (minus Ed) driving into Benaroya Hall in their personal cars the day of the show, NONE of them are hurting :)
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • rockpants
    rockpants BC Posts: 838
    Standard concert fare these days for international acts, at least around these parts.
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    100 Pacer wrote:
    there's a difference between not making AS MUCH money as hoped, and LOSING money,...

    Please explain, and tie that explanation into the scenarios that I gave.
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • 65 bucks for just Ed when I saw PEARL JAM for less than that per ticket last tour? Uhhhhhhh, okay......

    I'll pass.

    He had better play his ass off. I saw Cornell 3 times on his last tour for an average of 50 bucks a ticket. He played about 2 1/2 hours a night.
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    rockpants wrote:
    Standard concert fare these days for international acts, at least around these parts.

    I don't know; as far as an average fare, this is more than Dave Matthews Band, Radiohead (at least in the U.S.), R.E.M., Wilco, and many other acts. I'm surprised tickets are this expensive; I got into a Bruce Springsteen solo show for less money.

    I'm on the east coast, so I wouldn't get a chance to go anyway. But it's a fair question, especially considering a (presumably) solo acoustic show would cost much less money than a Pearl Jam show for example.
  • rockpants
    rockpants BC Posts: 838
    fanch75 wrote:
    Yet 80's rock bands like LA Guns can tour clubs and charge only $10-$15 per ticket and play in front of 150-300 people, and yet somehow stay on the road and be profitable.

    Booking fees for piss-tank clubs aren't as high as nice theatres holding a few thousand people. You can only charge what people will pay for. I kinda doubt people would pay more than $20 for an LA Guns nostalgia trip.
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,322
    fanch75 wrote:
    Please explain, and tie that explanation into the scenarios that I gave.

    see the edited post.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • Beck..
    Beck.. Posts: 535
    id pay 65$ to see ed
  • Sawyer wrote:
    take into account venue size as well....

    Well, when Chris Cornell played the Palace here in Louisville, tix were bout 50 bucks. It's a very small and beautiful venue.
    He played about 2 1/2 hours with full band and brought the house down!!!!!!
  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    That is pricey for a solo performer. Even if the theaters are nice or high rent or whatever. Hold onto your seats when the ticket prices are announced for the next whole-band tour. $65 for one member of PJ= $325 for all 5 members...Boom plays for free. :) Kidding on that total, but seriously, it'll be above $65 I bet you.

    You realize when everyone is shut out of Ten Club tickets, the ticketmaster ones will be $75-80 with the fees, right? I'm sure Ed is looking at it as just a fun new outing, and I'm sure he's going to give a bunch of the money away to the WM3 or Surfriders or something, but it's still pricey for the individual.

    And yes, I'm sure the shows will be well worth the price. Wish I could see one. Is this going to be the biggest descent on one state by PJ fans ever? Probably.
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    100 Pacer wrote:
    see the edited post.

    Fair enough, your edited post pretty much agrees with what Im saying. They charge what they can, because they can, and there's a profit motive, and you're fine with this.

    I don't see the connection "between a difference of losing money and not making as much money."

    That's a bit different (or at least I took it a bit different) than your original statement that he had to charge this in order to make a "modest profit."
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    fanch75 wrote:
    LOL

    Modest profit.

    Just like the "reason" the band doesn't play the South is because they can't make any money playing venues that are "only" 75% full.

    :rolleyes:

    Yet 80's rock bands like LA Guns can tour clubs and charge only $10-$15 per ticket and play in front of 150-300 people, and yet somehow stay on the road and be profitable.

    I don't mind that Vedder makes a shitload of money, but I just love Jamily-created justifications so they can go to bed at night dreaming that Pearl Jam Inc doesn't have a profit motivation. It does! It's up to you to decide if it's okay or not. I'm fine with it.

    considering ed makes 36percent of all pj profit and the rest of the band makes 16 who knows how that goes now that boom's in there, but he cuts way higher than the other members that's more than modest profit not to mention this whole tour profit goes to him alone, but hey that's what he does for a lving rock on ed rock on
  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    Well, when Chris Cornell played the Palace here in Louisville, tix were bout 50 bucks. It's a very small and beautiful venue.
    He played about 2 1/2 hours with full band and brought the house down!!!!!!

    Ah, true dat. I saw him in Vegas for $40 at the Palms Pearl, an awesome small theater/club. He had to pay his band members and yep, 2 1/2 hour show. The whole time I was thinking how cool it would be if Pearl Jam played 2 nights there someday instead of MGM (Tool did it a few months ago).
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  • rockpants
    rockpants BC Posts: 838
    digster wrote:
    I don't know; as far as an average fare, this is more than Dave Matthews Band, Radiohead (at least in the U.S.), R.E.M., Wilco, and many other acts. I'm surprised tickets are this expensive; I got into a Bruce Springsteen solo show for less money.

    I'm on the east coast, so I wouldn't get a chance to go anyway. But it's a fair question, especially considering a (presumably) solo acoustic show would cost much less money than a Pearl Jam show for example.

    Notice I said "'round these parts". Then notice my location. :)

    Boss tickets are: $115, $67.50 (w/ E Street, though).
    Rush tickets are: $85, $65, $45.
    Tom Jones is playing the same venue as Eddie is, and his ticket prices are:
    $89.50 and $75.
    radiohead's date won't be for awhile, but in the past - 5 years ago - they were in the $60-range. I would expect them to be between $65 and $100 this time around.
    DMB - I think they were on par with Rush, but I can't say for sure.