modern art = shit

harmless_little_f***

I've forgotten which artist it was but I think I've seen a modern art piece which was a half-finished paint-by-numbers board. Now that's irony.

Edit: Decides2Dream has just informed me it's Andy Warhol.. Thankyou D2D.

TrixieCat

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I've forgotten which artist it was but I think I've seen a modern art piece which was a half-finished paint-by-numbers board. Now that's irony.

Why ironic?
Did the artist sketch the paint by number board and then fill it in to be funny?
That is funny.

jamie uk

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I've forgotten which artist it was but I think I've seen a modern art piece which was a half-finished paint-by-numbers board. Now that's irony.

Edit: Decides2Dream has just informed me it's Andy Warhol.. Thankyou D2D.

I......oh, I'm staying out of this

TrixieCat

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I've forgotten which artist it was but I think I've seen a modern art piece which was a half-finished paint-by-numbers board. Now that's irony.

Edit: Decides2Dream has just informed me it's Andy Warhol.. Thankyou D2D.

Is she at your house?

It is a lighthearted thread.
Jamie...don't stay out.

Linda

yeah jamie, stay...:)

Rhinocerous Surprise

A cup of coffee?


Or a glimpse into the intense, morose darkness that haunts and envelopes the deeply troubled soul of a clown in between hits of heroin? :eek:

TrixieCat

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

A cup of coffee?


Or a glimpse into the intense, morose darkness that haunts and envelopes the deeply troubled soul of a clown in between hits of heroin? :eek:

:eek:
You know...clowns are kitsch.
And I am sure there are people out there that are avid collectors.

Not me of course..

Rhinocerous Surprise

TrixieCat wrote:

:eek:
You know...clowns are kitsch.
And I am sure there are people out there that are avid collectors.

Not me of course..

Collectors of clowns? Do they keep them in small cages, and force them to perform for food? That's what I'd do.

jamie uk

Clowns have generally been accepted, in our modern age, as being scarey, terrifying murderous characters, perverted, twisted lunatics. Quite how we, as a society, eventually accepted that portrayal is not clear to me, I remember them riding around in tiny cars, doors falling off, buckets of water...oh they were the greatest. Charlie Carolie, what happened to your legacy ?
Why do we now fear, and hold in general suspicion, that which we once embraced, and fell about laughing at? When did the change come?
Indeed, was it a change in the clowns.....or just our perception of them?
Sideshow Bob, Crusty.......you have some answers to give.

TrixieCat

jamie uk wrote:

Clowns have generally been accepted, in our modern age, as being scarey, terrifying murderous characters, perverted, twisted lunatics. Quite how we, as a society, eventually accepted that portrayal is not clear to me, I remember them riding around in tiny cars, doors falling off, buckets of water...oh they were the greatest. Charlie Carolie, what happened to your legacy ?
Why do we now fear, and hold in general suspicion, that which we once embraced, and fell about laughing at? When did the change come?
Indeed, was it a change in the clowns.....or just our perception of them?
Sideshow Bob, Crusty.......you have some answers to give.

That was classic Jamie.
Truly, you touched the heart of what I meant. Crusty doesn't scare me. Sideshow on the other hand. :eek: Not to mention Jigsaw..he looks like a clown.

People do really collect clowns!

jamie uk

TrixieCat wrote:

That was classic Jamie.
Truly, you touched the heart of what I meant. Crusty doesn't scare me. Sideshow on the other hand. :eek: Not to mention Jigsaw..he looks like a clown.

People do really collect clowns!

Trixie, do you think maybe it's just us as a society? Maybe it suits us to have scape goats? I dunno, just started wondering, I mean clowns...what's so bad about them? When did we all become terrified of them?
Maybe it's us that's the sick party, and we like to blame the clowns...poor guys.

Rhinocerous Surprise

Jigsaw.

http://www.chainsawsuit.com/20080423.shtml
http://www.chainsawsuit.com/20080428.shtml

TrixieCat

jamie uk wrote:

Trixie, do you think maybe it's just us as a society? Maybe it suits us to have scape goats? I dunno, just started wondering, I mean clowns...what's so bad about them? When did we all become terrified of them?
Maybe it's us that's the sick party, and we like to blame the clowns...poor guys.

Really? You may be on to something here.
But you are getting off the point.
Are they art?
Are they held in the same esteem as say, I dunno, Renoir? Picasso?
I bet the people that did those paint-by-number pieces truly were proud of their work.
We can sit around and joke about the dogs playing poker or the velvet Elvis, but who's to say that isn't high art just because it isn't hanging in a museum or in an overpriced art book.

TrixieCat

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Jigsaw.

http://www.chainsawsuit.com/20080423.shtml
http://www.chainsawsuit.com/20080428.shtml

Are those yours???
Chainsaw is NOT art.


Just kidding...don't tell Jigsaw I said that.

Rhinocerous Surprise

TrixieCat wrote:

Are those yours???
Chainsaw is NOT art.


Just kidding...don't tell Jigsaw I said that.

Not mine.:p It's a strip designed to be "bad art", because that's what the creator saw was selling these days. Which makes my links even more relevant than I thought. :eek:

TrixieCat

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Not mine.:p It's a strip designed to be "bad art", because that's what the creator saw was selling these days. Which makes my links even more relevant than I thought. :eek:

Bad because it is based on a very bad, mean old clown?
Or just musing on the fact that there is just a bunch of junk out there?
I was entertained by Saw though the acting was atrocious.
And the 2nd one was horrible.
Again, don't tell jigsaw.
I am not afraid of too much, not even clowns really. But that Jigsaw...:eek:

Also, marionettes...they are kind of scary. But art, nonetheless.

Rhinocerous Surprise

TrixieCat wrote:

Bad because it is based on a very bad, mean old clown?
Or just musing on the fact that there is just a bunch of junk out there?
I was entertained by Saw though the acting was atrocious.
And the 2nd one was horrible.
Again, don't tell jigsaw.
I am not afraid of too much, not even clowns really. But that Jigsaw...:eek:

Also, marionettes...they are kind of scary. But art, nonetheless.

Is Jigsaw's methodical mutilation of the human body some form of art?

(Oh, and "bad art" because comic strips that have crude drawings in them are doing far better than ones with more developed techniques... I'm such a geek.:o)

TrixieCat

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Is Jigsaw's methodical mutilation of the human body some form of art?

(Oh, and "bad art" because comic strips that have crude drawings in them are doing far better than ones with more developed techniques... I'm such a geek.:o)

I think some of the crudely drawn comics are funny. Some are just bad. I thought the ones you posted were funny.
Now Doonsebury...there was a comic strip.

I think his contraptions may be considered a form of art.
The best being in the first movie with his (later to be discovered) apprentice.
The one where her jaw would be ripped open??
I have a really weird attraction to old photographs depicting torture devices.
(as every friend I have on here runs the other way)
More like the whole morbid fascination. You know, the sepia photographs?

Rhinocerous Surprise

TrixieCat wrote:

I think some of the crudely drawn comics are funny. Some are just bad. I thought the ones you posted were funny.
Now Doonsebury...there was a comic strip.

I think his contraptions may be considered a form of art.
The best being in the first movie with his (later to be discovered) apprentice.
The one where her jaw would be ripped open??
I have a really weird attraction to old photographs depicting torture devices.
(as every friend I have on here runs the other way)
More like the whole morbid fascination. You know, the sepia photographs?

Yeah, I know what you mean - it's the same thing that makes us watch films like Saw and Hostel, or listen to old blues records. Without meaning to sound too pretentious or anything, it's the "beauty of pain" thingy. (Actually, it's impossible to sound pretentious when the best word you can come up with is "thingy".:p) I think people thrive on that kind of juxtaposition, mostly from a distance, unless you're the kinky type.:o

Which might be why we like to assign pain, anguish and horror to clowns - the contrast between a brightly painted smile and a darkened heart is quite captivating.

jamie uk

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Yeah, I know what you mean - it's the same thing that makes us watch films like Saw and Hostel, or listen to old blues records. Without meaning to sound too pretentious or anything, it's the "beauty of pain" thingy. (Actually, it's impossible to sound pretentious when the best word you can come up with is "thingy".:p) I think people thrive on that kind of juxtaposition, mostly from a distance, unless you're the kinky type.:o

Which might be why we like to assign pain, anguish and horror to clowns - the contrast between a brightly painted smile and a darkened heart is quite captivating.

You're making sense. Well between us all, maybe we can sort of:)
Personally, I am really put off Saw, Hostel and the like, I can't be watching them types of films. The idea of murdering people in ever more imaginative ways, just kinda leaves me cold.
Saying all that, I realy love sepia photographs.