Very random question...
was watching sex & the city with some female friends (ive been ill and all the guys were out so i was forced into it, there was no alternative honestly) and basically a big subject of the episode was about a mans foreskin.
is it the norm in the USA to be/have been circumsized?
the women in the program seemed disgusted that some guy wasnt circumsized? In europe its not really very common, apart from certain religions.
but in watching the show you kinda liked it right?
im pretty sure if i watched it id like it. im a tv whore.
but, in north america, it is common and im sure some gurls would be put off by it.
i got my son done when he was born. there are a lot of pros to gettin it done.
less chance of infection, stuff like that, and girls making fun of you.
and it cost me $100 to get it done .
i have another child on the way, i want another boy, but then its another $100.
cant win!
Just, not enough.
I need more.
Nothing seems to satisfy.
I said, I dont want it.
I just need it.
To breathe, to feel, to know Im alive.
Girls making fun of you? Listen...if a girl is on her way down to suck your dick, she'll suck it regardless of a hood or not. Circumcision has nothing to do with sexual pleasure in terms of the partner.
"In 1975 the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) stated in no uncertain terms that "there is no absolute medical indication for routine circumcision of the newborn." And in 1983 the AAP and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) restated this position."
So why? I know there are arguments for and against, but all the 'for' ones are based on hygiene (easier to keep clean, reduced infections, etc.) which should really not be a problem. It would seem that these urinary track infections etc.,'caused' by foreskin, are in the first year or so of the baby's life. Now.. can't parents be diligent in taking care of their baby? In a country like the US where there is no problem with water, etc., hygiene should not be a factor. Naturally, hospitals will scaremonger with those things.
If it is done for cosmetic reasons - ie to be like the others, girls will laugh, etc., I think that is wrong.
If there is no medical reason to do so, leave your boys whole! If, as adults, they want to get circumcised, it's then their informed choice.
I had a friend years ago that didn't have her infant son circumcised because she didn't want to cause him any pain. when she bathed him she always made sure to pull back the foreskin to get him good and clean. she also taught him how to do it himself once he was old enough to be taking baths/showers on his own. however, when this little boy was almost 5 years old, he got a horrible infection of his foreskin because he hadn't been pulling it back far enough when he washed himself. she had to take him to the Dr. where they tried serveral different antibotics to clear up the nasty infection and none of them would work. so this kid that wasn't even five yet had to be circumcised to remove his badly infected foreskin.
some how i bet that this kid wished to hell that he had been circumcised as an infant because at least that way he wouldn't have had to deal with remembering the pain.
personally I'm much more interested in the man attached to the penis than in what may or may not be attached to the end of his penis
Actually, Prism, your friend had it wrong. The way you care for the infant foreskin is leave it alone. The only person to retract it should be the child himself, when it naturally breaks free of the glans. It's attached to the surface of the glans, usually for at least the first few years of the child's life. Forcible retraction in infancy damages the tissue and leaves it vulnerable to infection. All of her messing with it is very likely what caused him to have problems later.
This notion that the foreskin is "dirty" and needs constant, vigorous cleansing is a common one in the US. It's just not true.
I have a 6-year-old who takes care of his own. He doesn't have problems with it.
As for newborn circ as a pre-emptive health measure: amputation is always considered an extreme, last resort form of medical intervention. The foreskin is the ONLY body part that is amputated while completely healthy.
The kids of today should defend themselves against the Seventies Nineties.
In my opinion, circumcision is just genital mutilation. Female genital mutilation is also called female circumcision. It is performed to 'purify' the individual by reducing sexual pleasure - cutting off the foreskin will affect sensitivity. The foreskin is there for a reason.. to protect, just like for women the labia is there for a reason.. to protect.
As to infections, etc. one would hope men would have a proper hygiene/care routine that would prevent this!
And anyway, once the penis is erect it looks the same!
Yes. So many Americans don't know this because they've never even seen a foreskin. They're frightened that there will be some strange "flap" to deal with during sex. So frightened, they'll put their own newborns through penile reduction surgery.
The kids of today should defend themselves against the Seventies Nineties.
Actually, Prism, your friend had it wrong. The way you care for the infant foreskin is leave it alone. The only person to retract it should be the child himself, when it naturally breaks free of the glans. It's attached to the surface of the glans, usually for at least the first few years of the child's life. Forcible retraction in infancy damages the tissue and leaves it vulnerable to infection. All of her messing with it is very likely what caused him to have problems later.
This notion that the foreskin is "dirty" and needs constant, vigorous cleansing is a common one in the US. It's just not true.
I have a 6-year-old who takes care of his own. He doesn't have problems with it.
As for newborn circ as a pre-emptive health measure: amputation is always considered an extreme, last resort form of medical intervention. The foreskin is the ONLY body part that is amputated while completely healthy.
I agree with you....I got worried for a minute there because when bathing my boys we leave it alone. I was always told to never pull it back. So I never did. So far, they are fine and my oldest is 6.
NEVER let it be said that I'm too honest about my personal life on the Pit.
I'm not telling nobody about my cock.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
In my opinion, circumcision is just genital mutilation. Female genital mutilation is also called female circumcision. It is performed to 'purify' the individual by reducing sexual pleasure - cutting off the foreskin will affect sensitivity. The foreskin is there for a reason.. to protect, just like for women the labia is there for a reason.. to protect.
As to infections, etc. one would hope men would have a proper hygiene/care routine that would prevent this!
And anyway, once the penis is erect it looks the same!
I had a friend years ago that didn't have her infant son circumcised because she didn't want to cause him any pain. when she bathed him she always made sure to pull back the foreskin to get him good and clean. she also taught him how to do it himself once he was old enough to be taking baths/showers on his own. however, when this little boy was almost 5 years old, he got a horrible infection of his foreskin because he hadn't been pulling it back far enough when he washed himself. she had to take him to the Dr. where they tried serveral different antibotics to clear up the nasty infection and none of them would work. so this kid that wasn't even five yet had to be circumcised to remove his badly infected foreskin.
some how i bet that this kid wished to hell that he had been circumcised as an infant because at least that way he wouldn't have had to deal with remembering the pain.
personally I'm much more interested in the man attached to the penis than in what may or may not be attached to the end of his penis
Sorry to say it, but this was extreme ignorance on the part of your friend. The fact is,and it should be a well known fact but it isn't, the foreskin is firmly attached to the glans of the penis of an infant, and can sometimes remain attached as late as 7 years old. In some men, it never fully detaches and this is considered completely normal. Forcing the foreskin back before it has detached can cause exactly the kind of irritation and infection your friends little son experienced.
The right kind of care for an intact infant is to simply leave it alone. Cleaning the surrounding area much as you would a female infant is all thats required. It's kind of like the practice of sticking things in the ears to clean them, it's not necessary. The regular, spontaneous erections that infants and little boys have gradually separate the foreskin from the glans over time. In fact, the first part of the circumcision procedure is to shear off the foreskin from the glans. In traditional Jewish and Muslim ceremonies, this was done with a sharpened thumbnail!!! Modern techniques involve instruments to peel off the foreskin, and then a device called a plastibell is put in place to cut circulation from the skin so it eventually dies and drops off.
My biggest issue with circumcision, is the lack of consent. Parents are making the decision to excise a perfectly healthy, functioning part of their sons body, without their consent. If it's that important an issue, why not wait till the boy is old enough to choose to have the procedure done himself?
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im pretty sure if i watched it id like it. im a tv whore.
but, in north america, it is common and im sure some gurls would be put off by it.
i got my son done when he was born. there are a lot of pros to gettin it done.
less chance of infection, stuff like that, and girls making fun of you.
and it cost me $100 to get it done .
i have another child on the way, i want another boy, but then its another $100.
cant win!
I need more.
Nothing seems to satisfy.
I said, I dont want it.
I just need it.
To breathe, to feel, to know Im alive.
Girls making fun of you? Listen...if a girl is on her way down to suck your dick, she'll suck it regardless of a hood or not. Circumcision has nothing to do with sexual pleasure in terms of the partner.
So why? I know there are arguments for and against, but all the 'for' ones are based on hygiene (easier to keep clean, reduced infections, etc.) which should really not be a problem. It would seem that these urinary track infections etc.,'caused' by foreskin, are in the first year or so of the baby's life. Now.. can't parents be diligent in taking care of their baby? In a country like the US where there is no problem with water, etc., hygiene should not be a factor. Naturally, hospitals will scaremonger with those things.
If it is done for cosmetic reasons - ie to be like the others, girls will laugh, etc., I think that is wrong.
If there is no medical reason to do so, leave your boys whole! If, as adults, they want to get circumcised, it's then their informed choice.
http://www.kidshealth.org.nz/index.php/ps_pagename/contentpage/pi_id/266
This notion that the foreskin is "dirty" and needs constant, vigorous cleansing is a common one in the US. It's just not true.
I have a 6-year-old who takes care of his own. He doesn't have problems with it.
As for newborn circ as a pre-emptive health measure: amputation is always considered an extreme, last resort form of medical intervention. The foreskin is the ONLY body part that is amputated while completely healthy.
I agree with you....I got worried for a minute there because when bathing my boys we leave it alone. I was always told to never pull it back. So I never did. So far, they are fine and my oldest is 6.
I'm not telling nobody about my cock.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
lol, it wasnt intended. Miskin is an endearing term in maltese
Sorry to say it, but this was extreme ignorance on the part of your friend. The fact is,and it should be a well known fact but it isn't, the foreskin is firmly attached to the glans of the penis of an infant, and can sometimes remain attached as late as 7 years old. In some men, it never fully detaches and this is considered completely normal. Forcing the foreskin back before it has detached can cause exactly the kind of irritation and infection your friends little son experienced.
The right kind of care for an intact infant is to simply leave it alone. Cleaning the surrounding area much as you would a female infant is all thats required. It's kind of like the practice of sticking things in the ears to clean them, it's not necessary. The regular, spontaneous erections that infants and little boys have gradually separate the foreskin from the glans over time. In fact, the first part of the circumcision procedure is to shear off the foreskin from the glans. In traditional Jewish and Muslim ceremonies, this was done with a sharpened thumbnail!!! Modern techniques involve instruments to peel off the foreskin, and then a device called a plastibell is put in place to cut circulation from the skin so it eventually dies and drops off.
My biggest issue with circumcision, is the lack of consent. Parents are making the decision to excise a perfectly healthy, functioning part of their sons body, without their consent. If it's that important an issue, why not wait till the boy is old enough to choose to have the procedure done himself?