Circumcision

Dog Loyal

pj10alive42 wrote:

Yeah, my subconscious insecurities about having a cut dick fuels all of my fury and rage. Ha.

Aren't there more important atrocities in this world that a human rights activist should be devoting their passion and attention to?

I willing to bet you are a vegan as well.

There are always more important issues than any given issue. That doesn't mean the given issue doesn't matter. I mean, I guess genocide is slightly worse than slavery, but that doesn't mean slavery wouldn't deserve our attention.

The bottom line is, if there is no need need to amputate the foreskin (and there is much medical support for this position worldwide) then why do we go out of our way to do it?

I don't happen to be a vegan, no. What's that got to do with anything? Can you not discuss this issue without attacking me? It would be pretty dumb for me to close my comments with "I'm willing to bet you eat raw meat." Try to stay on topic.

Dog Loyal

pj10alive42 wrote:

I'm sorry, but I just clearly pointed out your faulty logic. If you can't see that then...well...I'll be kind and refrain from comment.

I've used no faulty logic. I merely pointed out that you couldn't know you were better off without a foreskin, having never experienced one.

Men who are circumcised late in life can make a comparison, but their experience of the circumcised penis will be different from that of men circumcised at birth. This is because of the gradual keritinization of the glans and loss of sensitivity over years without the foreskin's protection. The man newly circed late in life won't have this disadvantage.

pj10alive42

Dog Loyal wrote:

There are always more important issues than any given issue.

NOTHING is more important than GOD.



























Except me.

Dog Loyal

Since I don't believe in God, I actually agree that you are indeed more important than God.

But that's a discussion for another thread, my friend.

pj10alive42

Dog Loyal wrote:

Since I don't believe in God, I actually agree that you are indeed more important than God.

But that's a discussion for another thread, my friend.

Have you read Sam Harris "Letter to a Christian Nation"?

Great read...

*edit - "The End of Faith" is also a must read.

Dog Loyal

pj10alive42 wrote:

Have you read Sam Harris "Letter to a Christian Nation"?

Great read...

*edit - "The End of Faith" is also a must read.

No, but I'll look them up.

So we agree on two things: this and PJ.

Take care,

DOSW

Wow. I've never seen so much hatred for other people's penises in my life than I have in this thread.

Lesbelges

DOSW wrote:

Wow. I've never seen so much hatred for other people's penises in my life than I have in this thread.

People are pretty passionate about penises!

gobrowns19

I know this totally goes against everything this thread is about, but I laughed really hard at that picture in the link of the baby on the magazine that read 'Where is my foreskin?" Not because im a dick [no pun intended] but I thought of that baby saying it in a really sophisticated voice and gathering with other babies in a chamber and having an intelligent debate.

Sure, it's late. Good night.

prism

I had a friend years ago that didn't have her infant son circumcised because she didn't want to cause him any pain. when she bathed him she always made sure to pull back the foreskin to get him good and clean. she also taught him how to do it himself once he was old enough to be taking baths/showers on his own. however, when this little boy was almost 5 years old, he got a horrible infection of his foreskin because he hadn't been pulling it back far enough when he washed himself. she had to take him to the Dr. where they tried serveral different antibotics to clear up the nasty infection and none of them would work. so this kid that wasn't even five yet had to be circumcised to remove his badly infected foreskin.
some how i bet that this kid wished to hell that he had been circumcised as an infant because at least that way he wouldn't have had to deal with remembering the pain.



personally I'm much more interested in the man attached to the penis than in what may or may not be attached to the end of his penis

Dylan Stone

Absolutely....I saw NO REASON to put a knife to my infant son's penis.

END OF STORY.

Bwalker545

If the Jews are right, at least I got one thing going for me when I meet my maker...

pjfan31

yeh, i got the chop when I was born. i'm not a jew or anything, mum was a nurse and she has seen some get pretty bad. If I have a son, I will give em the chop too.

Dylan Stone

pj10alive42 wrote:

Yeah, my subconscious insecurities about having a cut dick fuels all of my fury and rage. Ha.

Aren't there more important atrocities in this world that a human rights activist should be devoting their passion and attention to?

I willing to bet you are a vegan as well.

BTW......I am so NOT a vegan!!!!!!!!

Woa.....sooooo far from!!!!

Holy crap. You just don't get it.

Put a knife to my baby's dick???????

Are you out of your fucking mind? (Not singling you out....obviously....Just....to me? It sounds crazier than ludicrous!!!!)

brainofPJ

GraySaturday wrote:

Dog Loyal..

you seem very passionate and well education on the subject. Thanks for sharing the info. I'm one of those on the fence as to what I would do if I actually had a baby boy. I think I would have to do A LOT of research before making any kind of choice like that. I don't think I am going to have children, but its never a bad thing to be aware of issues going on in society.

maybe a little toooo much...

why so 'hung' up on the idea?

brainofPJ

Dog Loyal wrote:

Then pats itself on the back and declares it was for the best.

get over yourself....

brainofPJ

brainofPJ wrote:

get over yourself....

but it isnt for the best....

i believe that and so many people have said that.......



i bleive everything i read and everything americe tells me and blah blah blah

redrock

In my opinion, circumcision is just genital mutilation. Female genital mutilation is also called female circumcision. It is performed to 'purify' the individual by reducing sexual pleasure - cutting off the foreskin will affect sensitivity. The foreskin is there for a reason.. to protect, just like for women the labia is there for a reason.. to protect.

As to infections, etc. one would hope men would have a proper hygiene/care routine that would prevent this!

And anyway, once the penis is erect it looks the same!

dunkman

redrock wrote:

In my opinion, circumcision is just genital mutilation. Female genital mutilation is also called female circumcision. It is performed to 'purify' the individual by reducing sexual pleasure - cutting off the foreskin will affect sensitivity. The foreskin is there for a reason.. to protect, just like for women the labia is there for a reason.. to protect.

As to infections, etc. one would hope men would have a proper hygiene/care routine that would prevent this!

And anyway, once the penis is erect it looks the same!

i got circumcised at age 15... i had to get it done FOR health reasons..

how can i put this politely.... my helmet is too big so i had the foreskin removed.

redrock

dunkman wrote:

i got circumcised at age 15... i had to get it done FOR health reasons..

how can i put this politely.... my helmet is too big so i had the foreskin removed.

You're boasting again! Well, when there is a real medical reason, circumcision is not a problem. When it is done purely by routine or because it's the thing to do, then I believe that's wrong. Female genital mutilation is against the law, why not male genital mutilation?

If an adult male decides he wants to be circumcised, fine - let him do it, but I believe it's not right to subject a child to that. After all, one needs to be 16 to get genital piercings and 18 for tattoos, why can't there be a 'consent' age for something so much more drastic than that!