California, you disappoint me.
EvilMerlin
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Over five million assholes. You all suck. :(
Edit: In case you don't make it to chiqui's post below me, here's an online petition that's been started if you're a CA resident and of legal age to vote, you can sign if you're opposed to prop 8. Thank you chiqui.
http://www.petitiononline.com/seg5130/petition.html
Edit: In case you don't make it to chiqui's post below me, here's an online petition that's been started if you're a CA resident and of legal age to vote, you can sign if you're opposed to prop 8. Thank you chiqui.
http://www.petitiononline.com/seg5130/petition.html
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i'm ashamed prop 8 passed, discrimination needs to be ended for everybody!
sign the above!
Strange reason to hold a grudge...
Yes.
Michigan is gettin a head start on going green
All kidding aside..this is AMERICA, people deserve better
It's meant for California residents.
it's just messed up, it's something that is going to have to get pushed on a national level eventually...i read in the chronicle that some people are filing lawsuits and SF is still gonna fight it. right on!
Once I get out of this town
9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
Here's a blog I wrote on myspace the day before the election...I only wish I could have argued to a larger audience...
Although I don't like to put my politics on others, I can't emphasize enough how strongly I feel about this issue.
To be honest, I am simply insulted that this measure is even on the ballot.
How dare we, as Californians -- as Americans -- as HUMANS, allow a proposition that would TAKE AWAY basic rights from human beings to be put on a ballot in the 21st century?
Supporters of the initiative claim that the Bible says that marriage should be between a man and a woman. However, the Bible has been used in the past to justify slavery, the killing of Native Americans, and the superiority of men over women. I suppose that if these supporters of proposition 8 had been alive when these other atrocities had been taking place they would have been standing on a street corner supporting slavery, killing, and hatred then, too -- but that doesn't make it any more right.
In the Bible -- in Leviticus, to be precise -- it states that if a man lies with another man, he should be put to death. So are we to take the Bible as law and start killing everyone who is homosexual? If we are to listen to the supporters of proposition 8, who claim that the Bible's word should be followed to the utmost, then I suppose we should.
The simple truth is, we live in a democracy, not a theocracy -- and we can't allow the opinion of the Church to supersede that of our state.
In recent weeks, the supporters of proposition 8 have been spreading vile lies and using misleading propaganda to try to persuade voters to support the proposition. Among the worst of these has a flier that was distributed to African American households implying that Barack Obama supports proposition 8 -- a claim that Obama has outright denied. In fact, Obama has strongly stated his opposition to prop 8.
In addition, the campaign for prop 8 despicably tried to tie gay marriage to the Nazis and the Holocaust. Not only did the Anti-Defamation league strongly denounce the campaign for doing so, they also noted their opposition to the proposition.
Worst, the campaign for prop 8 has been spreading lies, telling potential voters that if the proposition fails schools will be required to teach gay marriage to children. This is an outright lie. As a teacher myself, I can guarantee anyone that schools do not, and will not be required to, "teach" gay marriage to children. These lies are simply a desperate attempt by supporters of the proposition to gain as many votes as they can from confused and misled voters.
My point is simple -- there is no reason to discriminate against a group of human beings just because you don't share their lifestyle. If proposition 8 passes, we will be taking a big step backward as a tolerant, equal society. Future generations will look upon us as bigots the same way we look upon the generations who enslaved, segregated, discriminated against, or killed others on the basis of their skin color or gender. That is not the California that I want to live in, and it should not be the California that you want to live in.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
Well you just called me an asshole.
Thanks for posting that Chiqui.
I've been so depressed about this. I want to be so happy that Obama won but I haven't even been able to muster a smile about anything. I'm just so saddened and so sickened.
Once I get out of this town
9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
What if I opened the church of being gay? Shouldn't I have the same rights as you? And then we should be allowed to practice?
Marraige isn't just a church foundation, it's legally recognized. Any church should have no say in the legal standing of a 2 person foundation. Do what you will within your church. When it comes to a legal matter for personal freedom, I don't really give a fuck what the book of whatever church says.
Not to mention, a main foundation for marraige is based on property, not religion.
Regardless of how anyone stands on it, the way to look at it is we're putting another law to take away freedom into our constitution. You're making it illegal for two people to partake in something that hurts absolutely nobody, and makes those two people and the supporters around them happy. It's really nobody's business. It's really a shame that we even have to vote on it!
Oops...I think I just got this thread tossed into the MT.
Oh, and I don't think any differently about you DTL, I respect your stance, it was just my general frustration rant.
I think you missed the point of who I was calling an asshole.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
It may be worth noting that a rapid change in the U.S. occurred over a little more than four decades concerning interracial marriage:
In 1948, about 90% of American Adults opposed interracial marriage when the Supreme Court of California legalized it, and California became the first state that allowed loving, committed interracial couples to marry.
In 1967, about 72% were opposed to interracial marriage. This was the year when the U.S. Supreme Court was legalized interracial marriage everywhere in the U.S.
In 1991, those adults opposed to interracial marriage became a minority for the first time.
The change averaged slightly less than 1 percentage point per year.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marp.htm
I bought my ticket to hell a long time ago. I'm going to have a helluva good time when I get there
What about resentful, uncommitted interracial couples? They weren't allowed to marry?
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825