Stickboy goes Into the Wild

NY PJ1

Heineken Helen wrote:

how do you figure? To me it just seems like the way we were SUPPOSED to live. You said you work what 10.5 hours a day? In the wild, you'd maybe do 4 or 5 HARD work though... but imagine how rewarding it would be to make everything from scratch from natural materials... to deal with nature all the time. Civilisation can just be a little monotonous at times.

Besides you don't have nothing... at the risk of sounding cheesy... you have everything

yea but i go home to a comfy apt. with a bed and a shower and food and water and ......

i dont roast chipmunks on a fire and sleep on the floor

NY PJ1

V V wrote:

I think its fine that we see this all differnet but for me

if you have nothing that dosent make you a bum.

i'm starting to wonder if you dislike the PJ songs about these things like Parchutes

"And I won't need

Nothing else
Cause when we're dead
We would've had it all"

well i'm really enjoying this thread but need to go be with my kids and if any of you have watched the ed, sean penn interview with charlie rose, one of the things they say is about this subject making ppl talk and debete sp? and glad to see we have it here.

yes it does make u a bum and i dont mean a city bum

a bum in the sense that u have nothing and no one

V V

NY PJ1 wrote:

clear ur head

I think you hit the nail on the head there, to me that is what he is doing and what McCandless did. after all he did want to go back just fucked it up at that point and still died happy because he had a clear head

on that note i really must go , check you all later x

ajedigecko

if stickboy has been inspired by into the wild........i would think that all this talk about him is taking away from his journey.

Heineken Helen

NY PJ1 wrote:

yea but i go home to a comfy apt. with a bed and a shower and food and water and ......

i dont roast chipmunks on a fire and sleep on the floor

If you do it properly you don't sleep on the floor

some people even build their own log cabins... there's plenty of comfy stuff you can find in nature.

and don't underestimate roasted chipmunks

NY PJ1

ajedigecko wrote:

if stickboy has been inspired by into the wild........i would think that all this talk about him is taking away from his journey.

ahhhhhhhhhhh touche

NY PJ1

Heineken Helen wrote:

If you do it properly you don't sleep on the floor

some people even build their own log cabins... there's plenty of comfy stuff you can find in nature.

and don't underestimate roasted chipmunks

yea but isnt he biking ? hes gonna build cabins every 2 days in different locations?

plenty of comfy stuff?

logs and branches with leaves arent that comfy

ajedigecko

NY PJ1 wrote:

yea but i go home to a comfy apt. with a bed and a shower and food and water and ......

i dont roast chipmunks on a fire and sleep on the floor

i also come from a comfy home and comfy area yet once a month i take the weekend and roast squirrels, rabbits, and fish while packing along the river. it keeps my life balanced.

Heineken Helen

V V wrote:

I think you hit the nail on the head there, to me that is what he is doing and what McCandless did. after all he did want to go back just fucked it up at that point and still died happy because he had a clear head

on that note i really must go , check you all later x

chat later


And yeh, I suppose when ya think of it... do ya ever just go for a walk in the countryside on your own, with nothing but your thoughts and the trees and birds and all that shit? It really does help you to find some clarity. Now imagine you need a bit more than just a walk to clear your head?

NY PJ1

ajedigecko wrote:

i also come from a comfy home and comfy area yet once a month i take the weekend and roast squirrels, rabbits, and fish while packing along the river. it keeps my life balanced.

key word ....... the weekend

Heineken Helen

NY PJ1 wrote:

yea but isnt he biking ? hes gonna build cabins every 2 days in different locations?

plenty of comfy stuff?

logs and branches with leaves arent that comfy

they're not?

don't get me wrong I too like my creature comforts, hence the reason I'm still here... and I'm FAR too lazy to do something like this but I've a great deal of respect for those who just drop everything and change their lives, whatever kinda change it may be.

mammasan

No offense to stickboy, I wish him the best of luck, but he wanted to find himself there is really no need to undertake such a dangerous adventure. Pack up your car and take a drive cross country, go camping out in some of the great national parks we have in this country. Spend sometime alone but with the menas of providing for yourself. Pulling a McCandles is absolutely unnecessary. I respect the fact that Stickboy is doing what his heart desires but you have to take along some common sense as well.

ajedigecko

NY PJ1 wrote:

key word ....... the weekend

you are correct...and during the school year i keep it at the weekend. when summer arrives, it is on (but only for three weeks)

NY PJ1

mammasan wrote:

No offense to stickboy, I wish him the best of luck, but he wanted to find himself there is really no need to undertake such a dangerous adventure. Pack up your car and take a drive cross country, go camping out in some of the great national parks we have in this country. Spend sometime alone but with the menas of providing for yourself. Pulling a McCandles is absolutely unnecessary. I respect the fact that Stickboy is doing what his heart desires but you have to take along some common sense as well.

totally ,,he is asking for bad things

NY PJ1

ajedigecko wrote:

you are correct...and during the school year i keep it at the weekend. when summer arrives, it is on (but only for three weeks)

so thats a 3 week vacation

this kid up and left with nothing

when u go dont u bring supplies and whatnot?

ajedigecko

NY PJ1 wrote:

totally ,,he is asking for bad things

cycling on roads by yourself......scares the shit out me know, that is why i only bike in our city park. there are far too many dumbasses behind the wheel.

cycling on the road with a group of others......that is safe.

ajedigecko

NY PJ1 wrote:

so thats a 3 week vacation

this kid up and left with nothing

when u go dont u bring supplies and whatnot?

i do bring supplies and plan accordingly....i have nothing to prove. i only do it cause it is a hobby.

i try to survive from skills i have learned....the supplies are my insurance policy.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

he will be back in miami in a week...............................

fanch75

I went "Into The Wild" by hiking in the Smokey Mountains to a waterfall last week. A 3 mile hike total. That's as "into the wild" as my black ass wants to go.

pjtaper

First off, Eli is one of my favorite PJ fans I have ever met! He is a blast to hang out with, always happy, and always FULL of energy, also Eli would give you the shirt off his back, even if you already were wearing 3 and it was negative 20 degrees... Eli is one hell of a guy...
He needed a change in his life so he decided to pack up his guitar bag with what he could carry, get on a mountain bike, and ride... I was pretty worried about him a few weeks ago, he had a lot of shitty things happening, wouldn't go into any details, but I could tell he was REALLY hurting!
Eli, I wish you the best of luck, if you make it to WI I have several great friends and a brother that would help you on your journey, I even have a good job I could hook you up with in Wisconsin, if you find it is too cold to continue on. He has my address in Colorado, Wu-Tang is playing down the road tonight, I was hoping he would come knocking on my door sometime this afternoon!
Last time we talked, I told him if he bikes all the way to Colorado, I know a little deli that Chris McCandles' sister owns, I'd buy him A HUGE meal there as soon as he gets in!
Eli, thank you for the very thoughtful Christmas card, I got it on Sat and will keep it on my shelf where I can see it until you return... Be safe, stay warm, and maybe hit up Taco Bell bean burittos instead of McDonalds, that shit will kill you!

GOOD LUCK ELI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heineken Helen

mammasan wrote:

No offense to stickboy, I wish him the best of luck, but he wanted to find himself there is really no need to undertake such a dangerous adventure. Pack up your car and take a drive cross country, go camping out in some of the great national parks we have in this country. Spend sometime alone but with the menas of providing for yourself. Pulling a McCandles is absolutely unnecessary. I respect the fact that Stickboy is doing what his heart desires but you have to take along some common sense as well.

but who's to decide what's too dangerous for our needs? People push the boundaries all the time to get their kicks... some people think a parachute jump is too dangerous, some have done 20 of them and are getting bored with them, some find it's simply not enough

fanch75

genie wrote:

yeah, but not everyone's got a family or commitments..........like me for example the only one person i will worry about if i ever go away is my dad. there is no one else in the world i give a shit about.....not my boyfriend, and not my friends

Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but that sounds awfully lonely. I guess if I felt that way, just running out alone wouldn't be that big of a deal, either. To me, friends & family are everything so of course the idea of me doing what Stick is doing is absurd.

ajedigecko

pjtaper wrote:

First off, Eli is one of my favorite PJ fans I have ever met! He is a blast to hang out with, always happy, and always FULL of energy, also Eli would give you the shirt off his back, even if you already were wearing 3 and it was negative 20 degrees... Eli is one hell of a guy...
He needed a change in his life so he decided to pack up his guitar bag with what he could carry, get on a mountain bike, and ride... I was pretty worried about him a few weeks ago, he had a lot of shitty things happening, wouldn't go into any details, but I could tell he was REALLY hurting!
Eli, I wish you the best of luck, if you make it to WI I have several great friends and a brother that would help you on your journey, I even have a good job I could hook you up with in Wisconsin, if you find it is too cold to continue on. He has my address in Colorado, Wu-Tang is playing down the road tonight, I was hoping he would come knocking on my door sometime this afternoon!
Last time we talked, I told him if he bikes all the way to Colorado, I know a little deli that Chris McCandles' sister owns, I'd buy him A HUGE meal there as soon as he gets in!
Eli, thank you for the very thoughtful Christmas card, I got it on Sat and will keep it on my shelf where I can see it until you return... Be safe, stay warm, and maybe hit up Taco Bell bean burittos instead of McDonalds, that shit will kill you!

GOOD LUCK ELI!!!!!!!!!!!!

can you tell me how old stickboy is? i only ask because that will put many things into perspective.

redrock

V V wrote:

you can follow his progress of change and adventure through his blogs on myspace
http://www.myspace.com/bigedogg

I'm following him....

mammasan

Heineken Helen wrote:

but who's to decide what's too dangerous for our needs? People push the boundaries all the time to get their kicks... some people think a parachute jump is too dangerous, some have done 20 of them and are getting bored with them, some find it's simply not enough

Yes danger is definitely something that differs from person to person. As for your example though, when you go sky diving there are safety procautions that are taken. Parachutes are checked and rechecked. Emergency chutes are packed and checked and rechecked. You tandum jump with a certified instructor. Before you even get onto the plane they teach you how to land and what to do in case of an emergency. So even if you are under taking something as dangerous as sky diving you are still prepared for emergencies. Mountain biking across country with no destination in mind, with limited funds, limited supplies, and during the winter months is not only dangerous but reckless. Does he have any hunting skills, survival skills, does he have emergency funds so if he gets stuck he can access that money to help himself. Is he carrying any type of protection, there are some sick motherfuckers out there. So even though activitie slike sky diving or mountain clibing may be dangerous people do not go about it in a reckless manner increasing the dangers they may face and leaving a wide open window for tragedy.

Poncier

fanch75 wrote:

Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but that sounds awfully lonely. I guess if I felt that way, just running out alone wouldn't be that big of a deal, either. To me, friends & family are everything so of course the idea of me doing what Stick is doing is absurd.

Thats clearly a key...those of us who have family and friends we are close to will find what Stickboy is doing to be a bit off the wall, but if he is having such a rough patch in life, it probably makes sense to him. Hopefully he'll be smart and safe along the way. Some people can survive like this, most could not. And there's a lot of things to worry about besides just the elements. I think lots of people get inspired or enamored by something like "Into the Wild", but there is a lot of negative stuff that doesn't get glamorized as much aside from the obvious end for McCandless.
When I read "On the Road" as a teenager, the idea of hitchhiking across the country sounded enticing, until I though long and hard about the downside of such a trek.
I hope it works out for him, and I hope it wasn't just folly because of a movie.

Good Luck Stickboy.

fanch75

In his journey, he will ultimately find that bytchez STILL ain't shyt.

pjtaper

ajedigecko wrote:

can you tell me how old stickboy is? i only ask because that will put many things into perspective.

I am not positive, but his myspace profile says he is 35. He may be younger though, like 25-35.
Make your next post carefully ajedigecko, you are at 999 posts, CONGRATS on making it to the 4 digit club!

harmless_little_f***

fanch75 wrote:

In his journey, he will ultimately find that bytchez STILL ain't shyt.

haha..

pjtaper

I worry about a gator getting eli while he is sleeping, or biking in the dark... there are some crazy animals lurking around Florida! I can just see a gator with it's mouth wide open, eli about to bike right into it, then seeing the gator and him flicking a burning blunt into the gators mouth, then escaping unharmed!!!
I wish I could get on a bike and join Eli for a day!