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  • thats a bit different. but to get that worked up over something so trivial is not even remotely close to worth it. no?
    We all have our crosses to bear...one of mine is a relative lack of patience
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • not only in the Grocery store ;)
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    We all have our crosses to bear...one of mine is a relative lack of patience

    I just spent an entire week in an open beach house with few doors with 5 monsters ages 1-10. Last time I vacation with my bandmates and their families. I'm surprised that at least 3 of those kids aren't hanging with Jonah in a whale's belly right now. Talk about a lesson in patience.
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  • I hope this isn't too off topic but when I was in Mallorca, a local kid was messing about and he knocked down a whole row of ceramic plates at a stall. :eek: I just watched as it all seemed to happen in slow motion. But the stall guy just shrugged, took the parents money for the broken plates and the kid apologised. That was it! My heart was still racing but all the locals were like. 'meh, that's life. It's all sorted now'. :D I just thought it was funny. There was no shouting at the kid, the guy behind the stall was perfectly calm...
  • eyedclaar wrote:
    I just spent an entire week in an open beach house with few doors with 5 monsters ages 1-10. Last time I vacation with my bandmates and their families. I'm surprised that at least 3 of those kids aren't hanging with Jonah in a whale's belly right now. Talk about a lesson in patience.
    I hear you. My friend has been telling me about that show on TLC "John and Kate plus 8" or something like that....they have two kids and a set of sextuplets (is that right?)...we watched it the other night....I would have to be committed
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    There is something magical about a child's mind... something so wonderful with the innocence and naivity which inheiritly makes their world quite a wonderful and amazing place. Their perspective is genuine and truthful. So lets just beat the fuck out of all that because we we cant be bothered or annoyed or have ZERO patience....

    Let's just make for god damn sure they all grow up to be psycho cases cause we made them feel ashamed, or unloved or not special. Lets just make them into lifeless pieces of shit because we cant be bothered to listen to what they say... I swear this whole debate is quite fucked up!

    Im glad people like you dont have children! God forbid! We just might fill up and build more mental institutions and prisons to keep these neglected children in because they eventually become adults! Pfftt... people like you make me think that we should start issuing licenses if you want to procreate!
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    I once dropped a dime, and this little kid about 7 years old picks it up, looks straight at me and puts it in her pocket. I said "Uh, excuse me. That is my dime."

    The mother gets pissed off and says to me "It's only a dime!" and says to her little shit daughter "You can keep it." And walks off.

    Brilliant. Kid learned a valuable lesson that day. Two actually. First, it's cool to be dishonest. Second, her mother is a moron.
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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    There is something magical about a child's mind... something so wonderful with the innocence and naivity which inheiritly makes their world quite a wonderful and amazing place. Their perspective is genuine and truthful. So lets just beat the fuck out of all that because we we cant be bothered or annoyed or have ZERO patience....

    Let's just make for god damn sure they all grow up to be psycho cases cause we made them feel ashamed, or unloved or not special. Lets just make them into lifeless pieces of shit because we cant be bothered to listen to what they say... I swear this whole debate is quite fucked up!

    Im glad people like you dont have children! God forbid! We just might fill up and build more mental institutions and prisons to keep these neglected children in because they eventually become adults! Pfftt... people like you make me think that we should start issuing licenses if you want to procreate!

    take a deep breath. you sound crazy.

    i agree with you in principle but at the same time, you're not helping.

    and yes, there is a line with kids and how much you let them be their "magical" selfs in public.

    backyards and zoos (family entertainment areas etc.) are for where the wild things are. public spaces require limits and control. actually so do zoos. you know what i mean.
  • vduboisevduboise Posts: 1,937
    There is something magical about a child's mind... something so wonderful with the innocence and naivity which inheiritly makes their world quite a wonderful and amazing place. Their perspective is genuine and truthful. So lets just beat the fuck out of all that because we we cant be bothered or annoyed or have ZERO patience....

    Let's just make for god damn sure they all grow up to be psycho cases cause we made them feel ashamed, or unloved or not special. Lets just make them into lifeless pieces of shit because we cant be bothered to listen to what they say... I swear this whole debate is quite fucked up!

    Im glad people like you dont have children! God forbid! We just might fill up and build more mental institutions and prisons to keep these neglected children in because they eventually become adults! Pfftt... people like you
    make me think that we should start issuing licenses if you want to procreate!
    Your taking this the wrong way. Its not about the children- but its about the parent. I don't have the freedom to do what I want when I want to- I don't want to go to work, but I need money. There are consequences for doing what I want. The parent is teaching the kids no consequences when they let them run amok (sp?) in the store.
  • vduboisevduboise Posts: 1,937
    exhausted wrote:
    take a deep breath. you sound crazy.

    i agree with you in principle but at the same time, you're not helping.

    and yes, there is a line with kids and how much you let them be their "magical" selfs in public.

    backyards and zoos (family entertainment areas etc.) are for where the wild things are. public spaces require limits and control. actually so do zoos. you know what i mean.
    i agree with you on this. There is a time a place for everyting.
  • There is something magical about a child's mind... something so wonderful with the innocence and naivity which inheiritly makes their world quite a wonderful and amazing place. Their perspective is genuine and truthful. So lets just beat the fuck out of all that because we we cant be bothered or annoyed or have ZERO patience....

    Let's just make for god damn sure they all grow up to be psycho cases cause we made them feel ashamed, or unloved or not special. Lets just make them into lifeless pieces of shit because we cant be bothered to listen to what they say... I swear this whole debate is quite fucked up!

    Im glad people like you dont have children! God forbid! We just might fill up and build more mental institutions and prisons to keep these neglected children in because they eventually become adults! Pfftt... people like you make me think that we should start issuing licenses if you want to procreate!
    Again, chill out. I don't think anyone would disagree about the wonderment of childhood and how wonderful children are....my cousin has two kids that I absolutely adore and they are quite wild sometimes, but they damn well behave in public....and the parents that don't try to ensure that, my friend, is what my issue is here
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • samicksamick Posts: 373
    You never acted up once? Never got in trouble? You remember being 2 yrs old?

    As I said, kids running wild with no attempt from the parents to keep them in check, not good. Just wondering where the OP is seeing all of this terrible parenting, coz in my years, I've barely seen it at all.


    I've worked in a grocery store..........when you spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week at one you see a lot of foul shit.............

    knowing my parents as well as i do.....them being my parents and all.........They wouldn't allow me to run wild at a grocery store at the age of 2..........
  • samicksamick Posts: 373
    Again, chill out. I don't think anyone would disagree about the wonderment of childhood and how wonderful children are....my cousin has two kids that I absolutely adore and they are quite wild sometimes, but they damn well behave in public....and the parents that don't try to ensure that, my friend, is what my issue is here

    thank you.......glad to see somebody gets it............
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    There is something magical about a child's mind... something so wonderful with the innocence and naivity which inheiritly makes their world quite a wonderful and amazing place. Their perspective is genuine and truthful. So lets just beat the fuck out of all that because we we cant be bothered or annoyed or have ZERO patience....

    Let's just make for god damn sure they all grow up to be psycho cases cause we made them feel ashamed, or unloved or not special. Lets just make them into lifeless pieces of shit because we cant be bothered to listen to what they say... I swear this whole debate is quite fucked up!

    Im glad people like you dont have children! God forbid! We just might fill up and build more mental institutions and prisons to keep these neglected children in because they eventually become adults! Pfftt... people like you make me think that we should start issuing licenses if you want to procreate!


    You're right to be glad that some of us don't have kids. I wish more people really thought about the whole thing before they started having babies. I should not have kids. Period. And I don't. Thank god. Doesn't make me a bad person, it just makes me someone who has no patience for children.

    And, I actually have a whole plan envisioned on exactly what you mentioned, making people get licensed to have kids. Not a bad idea at all but nearly impossible to pull off.
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  • samick wrote:
    thank you.......glad to see somebody gets it............
    Hey, bet you never thought this would turn into such a volatile discussion when you started this thread did you?
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • samick wrote:
    I've worked in a grocery store..........when you spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week at one you see a lot of foul shit.............

    knowing my parents as well as i do.....them being my parents and all.........They wouldn't allow me to run wild at a grocery store at the age of 2..........


    The point is, you probably tried. They did their job and reigned you in. I never said I thought kids should go unchecked and for the most part, parents do their best to make the weekly shop a stress free event. I agree, allowing your kid to piss in a bookstore, smash up supermarket displays and not pay for or apologize is fucked up. I used to work in supermarkets when I was younger....... maybe things have changed and kids are more out of control these days?
  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    I dont even think of being around kids that are "nuts" as needing patience. I consider it fun. there is no doubt its tiring, but most things fun are.
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  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    eyedclaar wrote:
    You're right to be glad that some of us don't have kids. I wish more people really thought about the whole thing before they started having babies. I should not have kids. Period. And I don't. Thank god. Doesn't make me a bad person, it just makes me someone who has no patience for children.

    And, I actually have a whole plan envisioned on exactly what you mentioned, making people get licensed to have kids. Not a bad idea at all but nearly impossible to pull off.

    Well then if you have no patience for them... you should understand yourself better and friggin have some patience then for us whom appreciate what children have to offer ...
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    I dont even think of being around kids that are "nuts" as needing patience. I consider it fun. there is no doubt its tiring, but most things fun are.

    Me too... let me hug and kiss you for that comment....
  • vduboisevduboise Posts: 1,937
    The point is, you probably tried. They did their job and reigned you in. I never said I thought kids should go unchecked and for the most part, parents do their best to make the weekly shop a stress free event. I agree, allowing your kid to piss in a bookstore, smash up supermarket displays and not pay for or apologize is fucked up. I used to work in supermarkets when I was younger....... maybe things have changed and kids are more out of control these days?
    I think that there was a different mentality when I grew up. My mom would not let me run crazy in the food aisle. At the first sign of anything- she put everything back and walk out the store- no Lucky Charms for me. We learned not to do that early in life.
  • vduboise wrote:
    I think that there was a different mentality when I grew up. My mom would not let me run crazy in the food aisle. At the first sign of anything- she put everything back and walk out the store- no Lucky Charms for me. We learned not to do that early in life.
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    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • vduboisevduboise Posts: 1,937
    Well then if you have no patience for them... you should understand yourself better and friggin have some patience then for us whom appreciate what children have to offer ...
    Its not that we don't appreciate kids. They have their moments. But why should I have patience for "your" unruly child?
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    exhausted wrote:
    take a deep breath. you sound crazy.

    i agree with you in principle but at the same time, you're not helping.

    and yes, there is a line with kids and how much you let them be their "magical" selfs in public.

    backyards and zoos (family entertainment areas etc.) are for where the wild things are. public spaces require limits and control. actually so do zoos. you know what i mean.

    OMg it just makes me angry... people have no value for children... I am disgusted.. and yes I am crazy... good crazy... A childs best advocate are their parents...
  • samicksamick Posts: 373
    Hey, bet you never thought this would turn into such a volatile discussion when you started this thread did you?


    Actually i was really hoping for this.............I was bored and this subject popped into my head...........and has provided me with a great deal of entertainment
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    vduboise wrote:
    I think that there was a different mentality when I grew up. My mom would not let me run crazy in the food aisle. At the first sign of anything- she put everything back and walk out the store- no Lucky Charms for me. We learned not to do that early in life.

    +1
  • vduboise wrote:
    I think that there was a different mentality when I grew up. My mom would not let me run crazy in the food aisle. At the first sign of anything- she put everything back and walk out the store- no Lucky Charms for me. We learned not to do that early in life.


    Oh I've done that before. With four children in tow, and a trolley full of groceries.... I've packed it in and gone home. Some days it's just not worth the trouble.
  • samick wrote:
    Actually i was really hoping for this.............I was bored and this subject popped into my head...........and has provided me with a great deal of entertainment
    Well done then. It has certainly made my morning a little more interesting. I was in Wal Mart the other day and it was actually the adults blocking the aisles that got my blood to boiling, so this is an issue that often crosses my mind
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    OMg it just makes me angry... people have no value for children... I am disgusted.. and yes I am crazy... good crazy... A childs best advocate are their parents...


    i think you're still missing the point. try to draw some distinction between what is acceptable and what isn't. it's not 0 and 1 here.

    no, don't lash them to the shopping cart but don't let me constantly be grabbing things and getting in others' ways etc. etc.

    it's all context and it's all discretionary but i truly believe most of the reason that such a good part of young western society is riddled with laziness and entitlement is because they were allowed to "run free" just a wee bit too much.

    a lot of kids are rotters these days and that's solely on the parents.
  • samicksamick Posts: 373
    vduboise wrote:
    I think that there was a different mentality when I grew up. My mom would not let me run crazy in the food aisle. At the first sign of anything- she put everything back and walk out the store- no Lucky Charms for me. We learned not to do that early in life.


    See i always ended up in that little seat that the carts have.......or if my dad was there he took me back out to the car............
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Well then if you have no patience for them... you should understand yourself better and friggin have some patience then for us whom appreciate what children have to offer ...


    You seem pretty intolerant of people who don't have patience for children, so I guess that makes us both intolerant to some degree. I never said, I accosted people or anything for letting their kids run wild and I don't trip kids in grocery stores so I'd say I do have some patience for those who appreciate kids and kids themselves. I just understand where people are coming from who get irritated easily with loud, unruly children... and their parents.
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