49 year old man has sex with a 14 year old girl - no rape charges...

aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
edited October 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/508726.html

The girl advertised herself on the Internet as a willing sex partner who was 19 years old. Sadler met her through Web sites that cater to fans of bondage-style sex.

He brought her to his home, had sex with her more than once, encouraged her to have sex with another of his sexual partners and e-mailed sexually explicit photographs of her to friends.


What a strange bizarre story, but all they tried to charge him with was exploiting a minor, and then that got thrown out.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Great! :rolleyes:

    Let's make sure and not violate the bottom feeder's rights.
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  • angie76angie76 Posts: 646
    That is strange and bizarre but jesus the girl was only 14 years old, he should be in jail.
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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    This is just awful...sick!! :(

    Seriously, as I've said before...it just goes to show that pedophiles aren't just on To Catch a Predator.
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  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    Sick fuck. I've never seen a 14 year old girl that could absolutely pass as being 19....how these people "don't realise" is beyond me.
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    P.S. Where the hell were the girl's parents???
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    angie76 wrote:
    That is strange and bizarre but jesus the girl was only 14 years old, he should be in jail.

    he is in jail.
  • "The girl advertised herself on the Internet as a willing sex partner who was 19 years old. Sadler met her through Web sites that cater to fans of bondage-style sex."

    into bondage...sounds like rape to me..
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  • angie76angie76 Posts: 646
    brain of c wrote:
    he is in jail.

    What I meant is that he should be charged for rape. The justice system is screwed up, let's not violate the criminal's rights. :rolleyes:
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  • ZiggyStar wrote:
    Sick fuck. I've never seen a 14 year old girl that could absolutely pass as being 19....how these people "don't realise" is beyond me.

    i don't know, man. we've got some neighborhood girls around me that look like they're juniors or seniors in high school, then my 12 year old tells me they're either in his grade or a year ahead of him. it's scary. i don't even look in the direction of school age females anymore.
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  • i don't know, man. we've got some neighborhood girls around me that look like they're juniors or seniors in high school, then my 12 year old tells me they're either in his grade or a year ahead of him. it's scary. i don't even look in the direction of school age females anymore.
    yeah i think the reason for that is because girls your son's age dress and act like girls who are 16 yrs+

    its sick and it sickens me to know that young girls are being influenced by media to act older and look older, and think and do older things that arent appropriate.

    it all comes down to how you raise you child.
  • There are definitely some 14 yr olds who could pass as 19.

    For an even more fucked up case, take a look at this one.
    http://www.wftv.com/news/16348047/detail.html

    13 yr old claims to be 18 and sleeps with a 24 year old, who gets sentenced to 5 years in jail.

    Then she lies to and sleeps with a 22 year old. When the 22 year old learns how old she really is, he tells the girls father what happens. And the father wants to put the 22 year old in jail!!!
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  • muiren77muiren77 Posts: 3,511
    they're both sick...
    what is essential is invisible to the eye

    apparently, 07162056 is THE date...
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Sick fuck. I've never seen a 14 year old girl that could absolutely pass as being 19....how these people "don't realise" is beyond me.


    They "choose" not to because it suits their purposes and then when they're caught they pretend they couldn't possibly know and somehow manage to get their lawyers on board as well.
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  • 14 year old girl trolling the internet advertising sex on a bondage fetish site?

    Rape is an unwilling act right?
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    i don't know, man. we've got some neighborhood girls around me that look like they're juniors or seniors in high school, then my 12 year old tells me they're either in his grade or a year ahead of him. it's scary. i don't even look in the direction of school age females anymore.


    And there in lies the difference.

    You realize that it's possible that you cannot tell the age of some of the young girls you see in a day and you've modified your behaviour accordingly.
    ie, you're not sure so you're making sure not to put yourself in a situation where it could be a problem. That's what grown ups do.
    Bottom feeders, on the other hand quite likely aren't sure, engage in risk taking activities that could get them into the shit, pretend they couldn't possibly know and then hire themselves a like minded bottom feeder of a lawyer when things are looking bad and cry "civil liberties" blah, blah, blah.
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  • Jeanie wrote:
    And there in lies the difference.

    You realize that it's possible that you cannot tell the age of some of the young girls you see in a day and you've modified your behaviour accordingly.
    ie, you're not sure so you're making sure not to put yourself in a situation where it could be a problem. That's what grown ups do.
    Bottom feeders, on the other hand quite likely aren't sure, engage in risk taking activities that could get them into the shit, pretend they couldn't possibly know and then hire themselves a like minded bottom feeder of a lawyer when things are looking bad and cry "civil liberties" blah, blah, blah.


    But the guy wasn't purposely taking a risk. The girl said she was 19, why would the guy have any reason not to believe her? It's not like he never inquired about her age. Short of checking her ID, there's not much he could do.
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  • But the guy wasn't purposely taking a risk. The girl said she was 19, why would the guy have any reason not to believe her? It's not like he never inquired about her age. Short of checking her ID, there's not much he could do.

    i don't think he'll be able to plead ignorance in a court of law. it astounds me that in this day and age, some people seem to not care one bit about hooking up with complete strangers they met online. i won't go as far as to call this guy a scumbag, but i definitely think he's a moron. the girl isn't too bright, either. she's lucky she just ended up with a guy that had a boner. she could have ended up skinned alive.
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    14 year old girl trolling the internet advertising sex on a bondage fetish site?

    Rape is an unwilling act right?
    my thoughts exactly.
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    what's a "bottom feeder"?
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    But the guy wasn't purposely taking a risk. The girl said she was 19, why would the guy have any reason not to believe her? It's not like he never inquired about her age. Short of checking her ID, there's not much he could do.


    How is picking up sexual encounters on the internet not taking a risk?

    I'm not saying that people shouldn't do it but let's face it, if you're going to be picking up people on the internet you'd want to be DAMN SURE of what and who you're dealing with. That doesn't just apply to men looking for sex but also to women. TO anyone, for any circumstance really.
    And quite apart from that, given how the law operates in this day and age, particularly with regard to underage sex, I'd have thought the smart thing to do would be to be bloody certain of who you are dealing with.

    Let's be honest, could you see yourself getting into the situation he finds himself in? Because I know I can't.
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  • 14 year old girl trolling the internet advertising sex on a bondage fetish site?

    Rape is an unwilling act right?
    There just has to be an absence of consent - someone below a certain age (which varies from state to state) is not considered able to consent. Looks like in WA this would qualify as rape.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44.079
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    There just has to be an absence of consent - someone below a certain age (which varies from state to state) is not considered able to consent. Looks like in WA this would qualify as rape.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44.079

    Thank you. :)

    I can't believe it's still a blurry issue for some people.
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  • angryyoungmanangryyoungman Medford, NY Posts: 1,028
    There just has to be an absence of consent - someone below a certain age (which varies from state to state) is not considered able to consent. Looks like in WA this would qualify as rape.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44.079
    yeah but to play devil's advocate he was misled about her age
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  • yeah but to play devil's advocate he was misled about her age

    doesn't matter. if he's that horny, go to a hooker. worst case senario: he spends the night in the clink and pays a fine. with what he did here, he's facing far worse.
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  • yeah but to play devil's advocate he was misled about her age
    True - but it's still rape. He broke the law, whether he realized it or not. Guess it sucks to be him. And I would venture a guess that this girl got some help in getting to the point where she's advertising for sex on a website at 14 years old. I would think either someone led her to do this directly or she's been sexually abused. Why exploit the vulnerable?
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  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    Regardless of what they look like with clothes on, I still think a 50 year old man could tell the difference between a 14 year old and a 19 year old when he has a 14 year old girl standing naked in front of him. Just my opinion.
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  • There just has to be an absence of consent - someone below a certain age (which varies from state to state) is not considered able to consent. Looks like in WA this would qualify as rape.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44.079


    I'm guessing from her behavior patterns (which are highly abnormal), this is probably not the first time she's had sex with an older man. Father, Uncle, strangers for money? All of the above? Sad but probably true.

    Lack of consent is one thing. Writing up an internet ad on a fetish site soliciting sex with older men seems pretty deliberate. I not saying it's ok, it just does not exactly fall within the classifications of no consent regardless of the lack of morals and judgment in her partners.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Lack of consent is one thing. Writing up an internet ad on a fetish site soliciting sex with older men seems pretty deliberate. I not saying it's ok, it just does not exactly fall within the classifications of no consent regardless of the lack of morals and judgment in her partners.

    She could have stripped naked and thrown herself at him and it would still be considered rape. The issue is that according to the law, it doesn't matter what she says or does because she's not viewed as old enough to make that decision. The concept is similar to the idea that a 5-year-old can't legally give consent because, regardless of whether she agrees to or solicits sex, she's not old enough to make that decision.
  • scb wrote:
    She could have stripped naked and thrown herself at him and it would still be considered rape. The issue is that according to the law, it doesn't matter what she says or does because she's not viewed as old enough to make that decision. The concept is similar to the idea that a 5-year-old can't legally give consent because, regardless of whether she agrees to or solicits sex, she's not old enough to make that decision.

    In a lot of states it's 16, some even 14. If she said she was older...ouch. Tough call. Not my cup of tea, but some girls do look and act much older and more experienced than than what they are. A picture would probably clear up a lot of disagreement. There's always that one case that leaves everyone's heads spinning...

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