**2008 Seattle Mariners**

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  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Fuck!
    ditto
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    snap.
    out.
    of.
    it.
  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    roar wrote:
    snap.
    out.
    of.
    it.
    tell me about it, this team is killing me this year :mad:
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    How do you make the Broom Icon in this forum?
    NERDS!
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    This is just getting really disappointing.

    I sure hope they figure it out and snap the hell out of it.
  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    How do you make the Broom Icon in this forum?

    you're banned from the safe this summer.

    no shishkaberries for you.

    :)
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    For the love of GAWD let's avoid being in sole possession of last place by taking care of the Rangers tonight at The Safe.

    I mean, for fuck sake!!

    Go M's! Seriously, go around the fucking bases and score some damn runs!!!
  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    or garlic jim's :D
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    Lukin66 wrote:
    or garlic jim's :D

    or hot dog joe's...seattle style...with cream cheese.

    i dare washburn to win.
    go m's.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    roar wrote:
    or hot dog joe's...seattle style...with cream cheese.

    i dare washburn to win.
    go m's.
    or Kidd Valley...

    I double dare him.

    Go M's!
  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    big sexy with the power bat!
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,308
    i tuned in at the right time, i love niehaus' home run calls.
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  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    i tuned in at the right time, i love niehaus' home run calls.

    me too. he's a future hall of famer! :)

    AW YEAH, WLADIMIR!
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,308
    nice job of bouncing back early so far for the mariners, good for balentien after really struggling on the trip.
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    Chicago 2007
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    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    roar wrote:
    me too. he's a future hall of famer! :)

    AW YEAH, WLADIMIR!

    Who's your Wladdy?
    NERDS!
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Yeah! A few margaritas into Cinco de Mayo and I come in to see a team called the Mariners ahead 7-0!! Wow, who woulda thunk it?
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Good win tonight - even though it was against the hapless Rangers.
  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Good win tonight - even though it was against the hapless Rangers.
    hey, I'll take it! nice to see sexson hit something too...
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Dude!

    This is painful to watch...

    We're stinking up the joint and I don't like it one bit!

    This isn't how I imagined it to be back in spring training.
  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    that was very, very bad.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Bavasi era, five years in the making, looks like a failure

    DAVE BOLING; THE NEWS TRIBUNE

    Published: May 13th, 2008 01:00 AM | Updated: May 13th, 2008 11:46 AM

    Bill Bavasi is in his fifth season as general manager of the Seattle Mariners. So he has been given sufficient time to produce a winner.

    The Mariners’ $118 million payroll ranks in the top 10 in baseball. So he’s been given sufficient resources to produce a winner.

    But the Mariners are once again last in their division, a spot they owned three of the past four seasons.

    Almost by definition, considering those figures, Bavasi deserves to be fired.

    I’m a softy when it comes time to write these columns. I like to remind the reader that everyone is human and capable of making mistakes (a point supported by the play of many of the players Bavasi has hired, with such names as Speizio, Aurilia, Everett, Weaver, Ramirez and many others).

    And Bavasi isn’t alone in this, as the culpability for failure by a franchise usually should be widely shared.

    Even as we remember that franchise executives have feelings and families and extenuating circumstances, there’s nonetheless a degree of public accountability that comes with the position.

    And the 2008 Mariners aren’t just bad. They’re boringly bad. They’re lifelessly bad. It’s taken a lot of losing to do it, but they’ve eroded a huge and dedicated fan base.

    Bavasi has had time to fix it and it’s only gotten worse.

    There really should be a lot to like about this team, which makes the situation even more frustrating to fans.

    There’s the incomparable Ichiro, of course, the young middle infielders, Adrian Beltre, a nice season going by Raul Ibañez, the promise of new right fielder Wladimir Balentien, a rotation that features Erik Bedard, Felix Hernandez and Carlos Silva, and some strong arms in the bullpen.

    When you look at it that way, you have to wonder: How can this team be this bad?

    For one thing, it just seems as if there’s so little spark out there. Remember those “Two outs – so what?” teams? These guys are “Two down – game over.”

    Ibañez came up with big hit in a timely fashion in a win Sunday, but that was an exception.

    Really, they’ve been doing nothing consistently well, ranking 10th or lower in all the major American League statistical categories except for stolen bases (sixth).

    Before Monday night’s game, the Mariners were batting .247 collectively, a drop of .40 points from last year’s average, and a franchise low since 1983. And there were some monumentally dreadful teams during that span.

    And all this is coming with the ninth-highest payroll in the big leagues.

    Maybe it’s management’s fault for opening the vault. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    But Florida, with the game’s lowest payroll, had the best record in baseball as of Monday. Tampa is second cheapest and nonetheless leads the Yankees in the AL East. AL West-leading Oakland has the third-lowest salary expenses.

    Look at Arizona, which is eighth from the bottom with a payroll of $66 million and leads the NL West Division. Who would have believed that the secret to success for the Mariners would have been to cut the payroll in half and never fire Bob Melvin?

    Where’s manager John McLaren fit in this debate? There’s not much evidence that he has this team playing anywhere near its potential. But he’s had it less than a season and he was handed kind of a mess. I think he gets a pass for a while.

    How much time do you give Bavasi? Is there a point in firing him now? After the trade deadline? Once the season is irreversibly wasted? At the end of the season?

    If you do it now, it would seem to signal that you’ve thrown in the towel and the season is over.

    Of course, it may be over soon anyway.

    Dave Boling: 253-597-8440

    Dave.boling@thenewstribune.com
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,308
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Bavasi era, five years in the making, looks like a failure

    DAVE BOLING; THE NEWS TRIBUNE

    Published: May 13th, 2008 01:00 AM | Updated: May 13th, 2008 11:46 AM

    Bill Bavasi is in his fifth season as general manager of the Seattle Mariners. So he has been given sufficient time to produce a winner.

    The Mariners’ $118 million payroll ranks in the top 10 in baseball. So he’s been given sufficient resources to produce a winner.

    But the Mariners are once again last in their division, a spot they owned three of the past four seasons.

    Almost by definition, considering those figures, Bavasi deserves to be fired.

    I’m a softy when it comes time to write these columns. I like to remind the reader that everyone is human and capable of making mistakes (a point supported by the play of many of the players Bavasi has hired, with such names as Speizio, Aurilia, Everett, Weaver, Ramirez and many others).

    And Bavasi isn’t alone in this, as the culpability for failure by a franchise usually should be widely shared.

    Even as we remember that franchise executives have feelings and families and extenuating circumstances, there’s nonetheless a degree of public accountability that comes with the position.

    And the 2008 Mariners aren’t just bad. They’re boringly bad. They’re lifelessly bad. It’s taken a lot of losing to do it, but they’ve eroded a huge and dedicated fan base.

    Bavasi has had time to fix it and it’s only gotten worse.

    There really should be a lot to like about this team, which makes the situation even more frustrating to fans.

    There’s the incomparable Ichiro, of course, the young middle infielders, Adrian Beltre, a nice season going by Raul Ibañez, the promise of new right fielder Wladimir Balentien, a rotation that features Erik Bedard, Felix Hernandez and Carlos Silva, and some strong arms in the bullpen.

    When you look at it that way, you have to wonder: How can this team be this bad?

    For one thing, it just seems as if there’s so little spark out there. Remember those “Two outs – so what?” teams? These guys are “Two down – game over.”

    Ibañez came up with big hit in a timely fashion in a win Sunday, but that was an exception.

    Really, they’ve been doing nothing consistently well, ranking 10th or lower in all the major American League statistical categories except for stolen bases (sixth).

    Before Monday night’s game, the Mariners were batting .247 collectively, a drop of .40 points from last year’s average, and a franchise low since 1983. And there were some monumentally dreadful teams during that span.

    And all this is coming with the ninth-highest payroll in the big leagues.

    Maybe it’s management’s fault for opening the vault. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    But Florida, with the game’s lowest payroll, had the best record in baseball as of Monday. Tampa is second cheapest and nonetheless leads the Yankees in the AL East. AL West-leading Oakland has the third-lowest salary expenses.

    Look at Arizona, which is eighth from the bottom with a payroll of $66 million and leads the NL West Division. Who would have believed that the secret to success for the Mariners would have been to cut the payroll in half and never fire Bob Melvin?

    Where’s manager John McLaren fit in this debate? There’s not much evidence that he has this team playing anywhere near its potential. But he’s had it less than a season and he was handed kind of a mess. I think he gets a pass for a while.

    How much time do you give Bavasi? Is there a point in firing him now? After the trade deadline? Once the season is irreversibly wasted? At the end of the season?

    If you do it now, it would seem to signal that you’ve thrown in the towel and the season is over.

    Of course, it may be over soon anyway.

    Dave Boling: 253-597-8440

    Dave.boling@thenewstribune.com

    my sympathies, i've endured the same thing to a greater extent with isiah thomas' reign of error..
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    freaking win this one!

    that is all.
  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    roar wrote:
    freaking win this one!

    that is all.


    ..and the next 12 to 14.
  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    holy crap! The M's scored!

    Now lets see if we they can hold off the Ranger's in the bottom of the 12th!
  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    sennin wrote:
    holy crap! The M's scored!

    Now lets see if we they can hold off the Ranger's in the bottom of the 12th!
    holy crap! The M's won! :D
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • HawkshoreHawkshore Posts: 2,160
    Lukin66 wrote:
    holy crap! The M's won! :D

    To quote DN Myyyy Ohhhhh Myyyy! :p
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Wow, so that's what it is like to win a ballgame. Huh.
  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Wow, so that's what it is like to win a ballgame. Huh.
    it's a strange feeling, huh?
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • roarroar Posts: 1,116
    tomorrow is going to be an AMAZING evening at the ballpark.
    85 degree day...against our "rival" Padres. we just might win!
    buy your tix.

    go m's.
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