Wow...I just checked out the Pats schedule to see if they had a legite shot at going unbeaten....They should....what a week ass schedule they have had all year....aside from the Colts and Cowboys who have they played? They should beat the Dolphins, Jets, Bills twice by a shitload of points...come on! Aside from possibly the Steelers and maybe Giants who else do they play...nobody! IF they do go unbeaten there should be two asterisks by them....caught as cheaters and pussy ass schedule!
based on 2006 team records, the pats had the 3rd toughest schedule.
Have you seen the schedule of the 1972 undefeated Miami Dolphins?
2, count 'em 2 teams with winning records, and they were 8-6.
Tha Pats will have played a team that should be 14-2 (Dallas), probably 13-3 (Colts), both on the road, as well as a probable 11-5 Pittsburgh team and likely 10 or 11 win Giant team. Additionally Cleveland, SD, Was and Phil may all be .500 or better.
So its not as weak as you perceive.
and the pats whooped the chargers when people still thought they were going to be a super bowl contender and not a pathetic pretender.
also, in 1972 there was no salary cap. there was no free agency. the defensive rules were no where near as strict as they were today.
and the pats whooped the chargers when people still thought they were going to be a super bowl contender and not a pathetic pretender.
also, in 1972 there was no salary cap. there was no free agency. the defensive rules were no where near as strict as they were today.
not sure where you're going with the comments about the defensive rules being different in 72, that applys to all teams ...
but indeed, the free agency and salary cap rules allowed teams like Miami, and more notably Pittsburgh to amass juggernaut teams and not lose ANY of their talent to other teams ... huge difference to the current ladscape of pro football.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
not sure where you're going with the comments about the defensive rules being different in 72, that applys to all teams ...
but indeed, the free agency and salary cap rules allowed teams like Miami, and more notably Pittsburgh to amass juggernaut teams and not lose ANY of their talent to other teams ... huge difference to the current ladscape of pro football.
to be honest, i'm not sure where i was going with that either. i was more in the flow of typing than thinking i guess...but i guess i just meant to say it was a different style of game.
what are you getting defensive for? they cheated. plan and simple. this team will go down in history as one of the best ever. and will have an asterisk. deal with it.
What a joke, an asterisk? Because they got caught cheating against the lowly Jets? So the rest of the season post cheating is deserving of an asterisk because of the 1st half vs. the Jets?
Wow, again this is one of the reasons they are pounding teams so bad, people piling on.
I hate the patriots. They are not even in my conference (GIANTS), but their fans are obnoxious and I am surrounded by them (I live in MA) and no team should be this good.
Its like the niners and cowboys back in the day. they were the best so they were not liked. nobody likes a winner who keeps on winning.
that said, asterisk my ass. they were caught week two, doing the same shit they all do. Besides, they are not just beating teams with last minute field goals, they are embarrassing them. seriously, teams cannot stop them at all. they score at will. its fucked up. I have watched the NFL since I was born 33 years ago, and I have never seen a team this awesome. 85 bears were all defense. the niner teams and cowboy teams were balanced, but they didnt dominate like this. if they keep this up, they have to be considered the greatest team of all time. they are not winning 24-20 games (minus colts), they are winning 56-10, 38-7, 52-7, etc. Domination.
GO JAGS!
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I hate the patriots. They are not even in my conference (GIANTS), but their fans are obnoxious and I am surrounded by them (I live in MA) and no team should be this good.
Its like the niners and cowboys back in the day. they were the best so they were not liked. nobody likes a winner who keeps on winning.
that said, asterisk my ass. they were caught week two, doing the same shit they all do. Besides, they are not just beating teams with last minute field goals, they are embarrassing them. seriously, teams cannot stop them at all. they score at will. its fucked up. I have watched the NFL since I was born 33 years ago, and I have never seen a team this awesome. 85 bears were all defense. the niner teams and cowboy teams were balanced, but they didnt dominate like this. if they keep this up, they have to be considered the greatest team of all time. they are not winning 24-20 games (minus colts), they are winning 56-10, 38-7, 52-7, etc. Domination.
GO JAGS!
for the record ... 49ers, cowboys .... cheated.
went outside the rules of salary cap to get the teams they had .... no asterisks there.
none of this means diddly poo(1) if they don't win the superbowl ...
so, what will be the spread when they play the Dolphins? 20? 24? off the board?
(1) - Jim Mora quote there ...
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
no team should be this good. ...
seriously, teams cannot stop them at all.
they score at will.
its fucked up.
I have watched the NFL since I was born 33 years ago, and I have never seen a team this awesome. .
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what are you getting defensive for? they cheated. plan and simple. this team will go down in history as one of the best ever. and will have an asterisk. deal with it.
a figurative asterisk (aka "*") is one of the dumbest things ever created.
it is what the media creates to drum up controversy and viewer/readership and what haters of certain players, teams, coaches, etc create to use as a crutch when trying to explain or rationalize their hatred of a player, team, coach, etc.
does anyone that dislikes the pats have anything constructive to offer to the argument other than "they are cheaters?"
yeah, i didn't think so.
pats fans have accepted the unfortunate fact that they were caught breaking nfl rules (videotaping defensive signals, aka - cheating) because the commish handed down his fine to the pats, to belichick and took away their 2008 first round draft pick (but thanks 49ers for sucking ass this year, bob kraft will send you a thank you card and a gift basket for the top 5-10 pick next year).
they have played two good teams all year and barely won both games. colts lost the game (pats didnt really win it) and dallas fought with them up until the fourth quarter (score didnt show how close of a game it really was).
Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.
pats fans have accepted the unfortunate fact that they were caught breaking nfl rules (videotaping defensive signals, aka - cheating) because the commish handed down his fine to the pats, to belichick and took away their 2008 first round draft pick (but thanks 49ers for sucking ass this year, bob kraft will send you a thank you card and a gift basket for the top 5-10 pick next year).
actually, with the Jets and the Rams winning this week, and the 49ers still losing, we may be up to a #2 pick by now!
it does highlight something ... the pats are just smart ... smug and cocky, yeah ... but, c'mon ...
they traded thier #1 pick in 2007 (28 overall) to the 49ers last year for the 49ers first round pick in 2008 and the 49ers 4th round pick in the 2007 draft.
Oh, then the Pats turned around and traded that EXACT same 4th round pick to Oakland for Randy Moss. And now, they'll probably be in the top 5 of the '08 draft, which they'll turn into a bunch of other good stuffs (no way they keep that pick) .... the depth they've achieved by trading down has been unbeleivable.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
what are you getting defensive for? they cheated. plan and simple. this team will go down in history as one of the best ever. and will have an asterisk. deal with it.
Stick to politics....I tell you what if and when they win the SB you put that **** on the Patriots cause I can Gaaurantee the League will never place it on them. This ain't Barry Bonds and baseball, it's football the modern day version of a gladiator sport.
Rock NEP, Rock on.
Peace
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they have played two good teams all year and barely won both games. colts lost the game (pats didnt really win it) and dallas fought with them up until the fourth quarter (score didnt show how close of a game it really was).
Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.
Since you appear to consider them not that good, at you feel that they're good enough to reach the AFC championship.
We shall see.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Stick to politics....I tell you what if and when they win the SB you put that **** on the Patriots cause I can Gaaurantee the League will never place it on them. This ain't Barry Bonds and baseball, it's football the modern day version of a gladiator sport.
Rock NEP, Rock on.
Peace
The asterisk has already been placed.
"modern day gladiator sport" ..............where we throw a yellow kleenex when a quarterback gets touched in the head.
they have played two good teams all year and barely won both games. colts lost the game (pats didnt really win it) and dallas fought with them up until the fourth quarter (score didnt show how close of a game it really was).
Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.
Must be a Stillers fan ?
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There's no denying their talent. But i think they are marked for a surprise ending this year.
That could be true, I have a reserved feel for that sort of scenario. However, when you've been a fan since childhood in 72' one has just got to ride the wave. The Pats have seen some really ugly years indeed.
Again we shall how this all turns out, this is a fun year in BEANTOWN.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
they have played two good teams all year and barely won both games. colts lost the game (pats didnt really win it) and dallas fought with them up until the fourth quarter (score didnt show how close of a game it really was).
Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.
the colts lost and not the pats won? whatever you say dude. a win is a win and a loss is a loss.
and don't try to tell me the cowboys/pats game was close - it was over half way through the 3rd quarter if not earlier. kyle eckel scored a TD! i mean, come on, beating one of the top 2-3 teams in the nfc 48-27 is not considered a close game.
i could totally see the pats losing any game the rest of the year, but right now the next game is sunday night at gillette vs. the eagles. one game at a time, one game at a time...
actually, with the Jets and the Rams winning this week, and the 49ers still losing, we may be up to a #2 pick by now!
it does highlight something ... the pats are just smart ... smug and cocky, yeah ... but, c'mon ...
they traded thier #1 pick in 2007 (28 overall) to the 49ers last year for the 49ers first round pick in 2008 and the 49ers 4th round pick in the 2007 draft.
Oh, then the Pats turned around and traded that EXACT same 4th round pick to Oakland for Randy Moss. And now, they'll probably be in the top 5 of the '08 draft, which they'll turn into a bunch of other good stuffs (no way they keep that pick) .... the depth they've achieved by trading down has been unbeleivable.
i was trying to be conservative on the 49ers pick.
i can't imagine they'll keep a top 5-10 pick unless there is a player available that they cannot pass up on (ie - a D lineman in the mold of richard seymour). the amount of guaranteed money is just too much.
i could totally see the pats losing any game the rest of the year, but right now the next game is sunday night at gillette vs. the eagles. one game at a time, one game at a time...
mmm ... the belichick kool aid ... it's tasty, ain't it?
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
the colts lost and not the pats won? whatever you say dude. a win is a win and a loss is a loss.
and don't try to tell me the cowboys/pats game was close - it was over half way through the 3rd quarter if not earlier. kyle eckel scored a TD! i mean, come on, beating one of the top 2-3 teams in the nfc 48-27 is not considered a close game.
i could totally see the pats losing any game the rest of the year, but right now the next game is sunday night at gillette vs. the eagles. one game at a time, one game at a time...
Colts pretty much choked at the end of that game. Pats took advantage of it, but the colts really came up short.
I wouldnt say being down to the cowboys towards the middle/end of the third quarter = a blowout. They put on all those points after the game was out of reach. Granted the cowboys defense played terrible that game, but the cowboys proved to be competition for the pats.
Colts pretty much choked at the end of that game. Pats took advantage of it, but the colts really came up short.
I wouldnt say being down to the cowboys towards the middle/end of the third quarter = a blowout. They put on all those points after the game was out of reach. Granted the cowboys defense played terrible that game, but the cowboys proved to be competition for the pats.
but it won't matter, because you think the pats won't even make the superbowl ... so ... why do you even care about the Pats?
Cowboys v Packers ... now there will be a good game!
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I'm not crowning them best team ever. They are good very good but there's a long way to go. You feel they will fall a some point in the playoffs wwe shall see.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm not crowning them best team ever. They are good very good but there's a long way to go. You feel they will fall a some point in the playoffs wwe shall see.
Peace
They are going to see a lot of amped up teams come playoff time. They have played very well in previous years, but now they have a bullseye on them.
Its going to be interesting no matter how it turns out though.
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based on 2006 team records, the pats had the 3rd toughest schedule.
http://www.theredzone.org/strength.asp
It can happen, but it won't. They are going undefeated unless they are playing all third-stringers against the Giants in week 17, and then, maybe.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
and the pats whooped the chargers when people still thought they were going to be a super bowl contender and not a pathetic pretender.
also, in 1972 there was no salary cap. there was no free agency. the defensive rules were no where near as strict as they were today.
not sure where you're going with the comments about the defensive rules being different in 72, that applys to all teams ...
but indeed, the free agency and salary cap rules allowed teams like Miami, and more notably Pittsburgh to amass juggernaut teams and not lose ANY of their talent to other teams ... huge difference to the current ladscape of pro football.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
to be honest, i'm not sure where i was going with that either. i was more in the flow of typing than thinking i guess...but i guess i just meant to say it was a different style of game.
* fined in the beginning of the year for cheating.
ok. they were caught taping defensive signals (aka cheating). we get it. they were fined and lost a draft pick. move on already.
what are you getting defensive for? they cheated. plan and simple. this team will go down in history as one of the best ever. and will have an asterisk. deal with it.
Wow, again this is one of the reasons they are pounding teams so bad, people piling on.
Its like the niners and cowboys back in the day. they were the best so they were not liked. nobody likes a winner who keeps on winning.
that said, asterisk my ass. they were caught week two, doing the same shit they all do. Besides, they are not just beating teams with last minute field goals, they are embarrassing them. seriously, teams cannot stop them at all. they score at will. its fucked up. I have watched the NFL since I was born 33 years ago, and I have never seen a team this awesome. 85 bears were all defense. the niner teams and cowboy teams were balanced, but they didnt dominate like this. if they keep this up, they have to be considered the greatest team of all time. they are not winning 24-20 games (minus colts), they are winning 56-10, 38-7, 52-7, etc. Domination.
GO JAGS!
for the record ... 49ers, cowboys .... cheated.
went outside the rules of salary cap to get the teams they had .... no asterisks there.
none of this means diddly poo(1) if they don't win the superbowl ...
so, what will be the spread when they play the Dolphins? 20? 24? off the board?
(1) - Jim Mora quote there ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I love these quotes!
EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
10/25/13 Hartford
a figurative asterisk (aka "*") is one of the dumbest things ever created.
it is what the media creates to drum up controversy and viewer/readership and what haters of certain players, teams, coaches, etc create to use as a crutch when trying to explain or rationalize their hatred of a player, team, coach, etc.
does anyone that dislikes the pats have anything constructive to offer to the argument other than "they are cheaters?"
yeah, i didn't think so.
pats fans have accepted the unfortunate fact that they were caught breaking nfl rules (videotaping defensive signals, aka - cheating) because the commish handed down his fine to the pats, to belichick and took away their 2008 first round draft pick (but thanks 49ers for sucking ass this year, bob kraft will send you a thank you card and a gift basket for the top 5-10 pick next year).
Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.
actually, with the Jets and the Rams winning this week, and the 49ers still losing, we may be up to a #2 pick by now!
it does highlight something ... the pats are just smart ... smug and cocky, yeah ... but, c'mon ...
they traded thier #1 pick in 2007 (28 overall) to the 49ers last year for the 49ers first round pick in 2008 and the 49ers 4th round pick in the 2007 draft.
Oh, then the Pats turned around and traded that EXACT same 4th round pick to Oakland for Randy Moss. And now, they'll probably be in the top 5 of the '08 draft, which they'll turn into a bunch of other good stuffs (no way they keep that pick) .... the depth they've achieved by trading down has been unbeleivable.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Stick to politics....I tell you what if and when they win the SB you put that **** on the Patriots cause I can Gaaurantee the League will never place it on them. This ain't Barry Bonds and baseball, it's football the modern day version of a gladiator sport.
Rock NEP, Rock on.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Since you appear to consider them not that good, at you feel that they're good enough to reach the AFC championship.
We shall see.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The asterisk has already been placed.
"modern day gladiator sport" ..............where we throw a yellow kleenex when a quarterback gets touched in the head.
Must be a Stillers fan ?
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
No way, hate the squeelers.
There's no denying their talent. But i think they are marked for a surprise ending this year.
That could be true, I have a reserved feel for that sort of scenario. However, when you've been a fan since childhood in 72' one has just got to ride the wave. The Pats have seen some really ugly years indeed.
Again we shall how this all turns out, this is a fun year in BEANTOWN.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
the colts lost and not the pats won? whatever you say dude. a win is a win and a loss is a loss.
and don't try to tell me the cowboys/pats game was close - it was over half way through the 3rd quarter if not earlier. kyle eckel scored a TD! i mean, come on, beating one of the top 2-3 teams in the nfc 48-27 is not considered a close game.
i could totally see the pats losing any game the rest of the year, but right now the next game is sunday night at gillette vs. the eagles. one game at a time, one game at a time...
i was trying to be conservative on the 49ers pick.
i can't imagine they'll keep a top 5-10 pick unless there is a player available that they cannot pass up on (ie - a D lineman in the mold of richard seymour). the amount of guaranteed money is just too much.
mmm ... the belichick kool aid ... it's tasty, ain't it?
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Colts pretty much choked at the end of that game. Pats took advantage of it, but the colts really came up short.
I wouldnt say being down to the cowboys towards the middle/end of the third quarter = a blowout. They put on all those points after the game was out of reach. Granted the cowboys defense played terrible that game, but the cowboys proved to be competition for the pats.
but it won't matter, because you think the pats won't even make the superbowl ... so ... why do you even care about the Pats?
Cowboys v Packers ... now there will be a good game!
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I dont think Pats will make the superbowl. I just dont agree with everyone crowning them as the best team ever.
Cowboys Vs Packers will be a good game. Big Favre vs Little Favre
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
They are going to see a lot of amped up teams come playoff time. They have played very well in previous years, but now they have a bullseye on them.
Its going to be interesting no matter how it turns out though.