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Dr. Delight

I wont be surprised in the least to see the job given to Lindy Ruff.

rival.

Dr. Delight wrote:

rival. wrote:

with a new coach coming in, are we going to look mighty dumb for letting gaborik, a 40/50 goal score walk because he didn't fit into tortorella's system? :fp:

The return you guys got for Gaborik was great. I dont see why you're complaining.
I would take that trade 5 out of 5 times.

brassard will be a stud, haven't seen dorsett yet, and moore has been okay.

80 goal combination between nash and gaborik in a full season isn't too shabby under an offensive coaching style rather than tort's break a limb to block a shot mentality. brassard has quickly become a fan favorite, and if the rangers had an eye on him, they could have make other moves to get him. dorsett? concusion problems? wouldn't look into that as a real long term investment.

want to score goals? you keep goal scores around. tortorella would rather have lundqvist post a shut out every game and hope the other team knocks the puck in their own net.

igotid88

So with the new Penn Station plans they're thinking of moving MSG south or west.

igotid88

What if Torts shaves his moustache and applies again?

rival.

igotid88 wrote:

What if Torts shaves his moustache and applies again?

questionable.

wonder what kind of article larry brooks is typing up right now.

Bathgate66

rival. wrote:

igotid88 wrote:

What if Torts shaves his moustache and applies again?

questionable.

wonder what kind of article larry brooks is typing up right now.

I dont know about Brooksy,
but BRETT CYRGALIS writes :

" players tired of his overbearing personality ..."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/ ... 6ujifN1MWI


The dirty laundry was not about to be publicly aired Wednesday afternoon when Rangers general manager Glen Sather announced the firing of coach John Tortorella.

“It wasn’t one thing, and I’m not going to speculate or start to criticize what happened with Torts and give you a lot of reasons why we decided to do this,” Sather said on a conference call. “After the analytical work we do every year at the end of season trying to decide how we’re going to improve the team and how we’re going to move forward, this is a decision we made, a decision that was consulted with some people so that everyone knew what was going to happen.”



Sather did say that Tortorella was shocked to hear the news, but that he took it like a gentleman. The decision is believed to be unrelated to the team’s 2012-13 regular-season record and second-round playoff elimination, but rather to the core belief by management that the club’s players had grown weary of Tortorella’s overbearing personality.

“Removing anybody from the coaching role of the New York Rangers is a difficult decision,” Sather said, “but I think I made the right decision so that we can go forward in another direction.”

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One year after making it to the conference finals, the Rangers lost this season a round earlier, falling in five games to the Bruins in the Eastern Conference semifinals. There seemed to be conflicting sentiments about the season coming from Tortorella and from his locker room, specifically franchise goaltender Henrik Lundqvist.

During Monday’s break-up day, Lundqvist called the season “a step back.” Minutes later, Tortorella vehemently disagreed, calling it instead, “a sideways step.”

“What Henirk was talking about was last year we got into the conference finals, this year we didn’t make that,” Sather said. “I think that’s what he was referring to. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re not in the Stanley Cup [finals] and you’re not there winning it, your season has not been a success. The ultimate goal is to win the Stanley Cup here, so anytime that we don’t get there, I don’t think we’ve achieved our goal.”

Lundqvist is going to be a free agent after this coming season, and it seems as if the team doesn’t wrap him up with a long-term deal before training camp starts, then he might have one foot out the door. To say that Sather had to choose between Lundqvist and Tortorella is nothing more than wild speculation, yet the GM said his plan is for the reigning Vezina Trophy winner to stay in New York for good.

“We plan on signing Henrik to a long-term contract,” Sather said. “I’m not going to make any public comments on the negotiations, how and when they’re going to take place. But it had nothing to do with this. This was a decision that I made.”

A decision that Sather also said he had a hand in was scratching former Conn Smythe winner Brad Richards for the final two games of the Bruins series. Richards, 33, is due $6.67 million per year until 2019-20, and because of the precipitous decline in his game has become a prime candidate for the Rangers’ final amnesty buyout. Sather can use that either this summer or next to send Richards packing and wipe his cap hit off their books.

“That’s a decision we’re going to make later at our organizational meetings [in late June],” Sather said about Richards. “At this time, I’m not thinking about that. I’m trying to deal with this situation and move forward.”

As for moving forward, Sather continued to be evasive about the type of coach he would like to hire. Yet he did point out there are similarities between the teams still alive fighting for the Stanley Cup – the Penguins and Bruins in the East finals, and the Kings set to take on the winner of Wednesday night’s Game 7 between the Blackhawks and Red Wings.

“If you look at the teams that are going to be contending for the Stanley Cup, there are specific ingredients that every team has and some teams don’t have,” Sather said. “I’d like to take the best of what those teams have and integrate them into our team.”

The most logical choices out there for possible replacements start with Lindy Ruff, the longtime coach of the Sabres who was fired early in the year. After him comes former Canucks headman Alain Vigneault, and then possibly Dave Tippett, whose contract with the Coyotes expires on June 30.

“There are a lot of factors when you go looking for someone to develop and help your team get us to your ultimate goal,” Sather said. “And as you know it’s not an easy thing to achieve, but we have to keep striving to get there.”

The striving continues, but now it goes on without Tortorella.

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Bathgate66

rival. wrote:

igotid88 wrote:

What if Torts shaves his moustache and applies again?

questionable.

wonder what kind of article larry brooks is typing up right now.

Brooks column today the day after

There was widespread discord amongst the entire roster.
Gotta love Gabbys tweet from Columbus.




Players made it clear to Sather coach’s act was wearing thin
By LARRY BROOKS
Last Updated: 7:45 AM, May 30, 2013

Glen Sather said yesterday the decision to fire John Tortorella was his. The reality is the players made the decision for the club president and general manager.

The Rangers players had had enough of the coach and they said so during their exit meetings on Monday. Sources have confirmed Sather had no intention of dismissing Tortorella in the wake of the team’s second-round elimination by the Bruins until a critical mass of players informed the GM that the coach’s overbearing personality had become a roadblock to success.

When Henrik Lundqvist told the press Monday he would need time to think about committing his future to the Rangers, that was the tip of the iceberg. The franchise goaltender did not sing an executioner’s song, but we’ve learned that he was troubled enough by what had become a deteriorating dynamic between the coach and his teammates that he believed it was necessary to give voice to it.

We’re told that though there were no ultimatums issued by the players, the overwhelming sentiment was that Tortorella had become the problem rather than the solution for the Rangers, who are now going on 20 years and 19 seasons since their last Stanley Cup in 1994.

In the immediate aftermath of Saturday’s Game 5 defeat in Boston, Tortorella blamed himself for being unable to get the best out of the Rangers’ top players. On Monday, at what turned out to be his own exit interview with the media, he blamed himself for not being able to get the team properly prepared for the second-round series.

Sather refused to indict Tortorella for anything during yesterday’s conference call with the press. He refused to identify a reason for the move, acknowledging that he was being “vague.” Clearly, he did not want to leave the impression his players had blood on their hands, or that the team faced the prospect of an in-season mutiny if camp opened in September with Tortorella still in place.

The GM, who confirmed that he will continue in that position, did talk about “a shelf life” for coaches. And while Sather was accurate in suggesting all coaches have a shelf life, for those with the unyielding, acerbic, critical approach of Tortorella, seasons of “sideways steps,” lead to steps out the door.

It is difficult to paint a broad brush over Tortorella’s regime. Marian Gaborik had two of his best seasons playing for him as well as his two worst before finally being forced out the door, a victim of barely disguised scapegoating. Chris Kreider couldn’t have met with a more skeptical coach, yet young players such as Derek Stepan and Ryan McDonagh blossomed quickly playing for him.

(Tortorella incredibly warned the press not to “interfere” with his relationship with Gaborik hours after No. 10 had been shipped to Columbus at the deadline. Yesterday afternoon, Gaborik posted, “Everything happens for a reason...” on his Twitter account.)

Tortorella would not modify his zealous safety-first, block-every-shot approach to fit his personnel. He demanded that every player, regardless of talent, adapt to him. The 2012-13 Rangers were not the 2011-12 Black-and-Blueshirts, yet he would not adjust his blueprint.

But it wasn’t the demanding on-ice style that finally grinded down the Rangers. It was, we’re told, the harshness with which he too often interacted with the athletes. The angry public face of Tortorella was too often the private face, as well.

In addition, Tortorella’s occasionally brutal public cut-downs of his players were doing no good for the organization. The Carl Hagelin “stinks” on the power play bit drew laughs from his audience, but we’re told that Tortorella’s outburst in Buffalo following the March 12, 3-1 defeat in which he said he was “disgusted” with his top players was not at all well received inside the room or across the industry.

The needle had moved forward under Tortorella, but progress was nil this year and threatened going forward. Players had become afraid of making mistakes; fearful of the reprisal at the coach’s command. His way or no way might not have been a road to exactly nowhere, but it was leading toward a dead end.

A fresh approach will be sought by Sather. The Blueshirts require an individual with a constructive, positive voice who will maximize the team’s talent. They need a face who will represent the franchise and the fan-base with pride. There is no doubt that Mark Messier embodies those attributes, though it is unclear whether No. 11’s absence of coaching experience would rule him out of serious consideration for the job.

Tortorella always said that what happened in the room would stay in the room. On Monday, it all made its way into the players’ exit meetings with Sather.

When the meetings had ended, when the extent of the players’ alienation from the coach had become clear, it wasn’t about steps back or steps sideways, it was about Tortorella being told to step down.

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MayDay10

Ruff is the same way. Players wont like him either.


When does any blame get put on Sather?

Bathgate66

MayDay10 wrote:

Ruff is the same way. Players wont like him either.


When does any blame get put on Sather?

definitely agree !
I think this was his 7th firing of a coach under his tenure.

dankind

MayDay10 wrote:

When does any blame get put on Sather?

All the fucking time.

I've heard the "Fire Sather" chant at the Garden almost as many times as I've heard "Potvin Sucks."

Dr. Delight

MayDay10 wrote:

When does any blame get put on Sather?

Hugh Jessimen and Bobby Sanguinetti disagree.

Bathgate66

Avery --

" I had a huge smile on my face " when I heard Tortorella was fired .

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/05/31/ ... was-fired/



NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Many fans were quite pleased when the Rangers decided to let head coach John Tortorella go following the Rangers’ early postseason exit at the hands of the Bruins.

And a report came out on Thursday that Rangers players pushed for Tortorella’s dismissal. No current Rangers have come out and admitted that, but one former Blueshirt isn’t hiding his satisfaction.

“Oh, I had a huge smile on my face, no question about it,” ex-Ranger Sean Avery told the New York Post on Thursday. “It’s not that I’m happy for myself. I’m happy for the Rangers and Ranger fans.”

Avery played for New York from 2007-2009 and then returned to Manhattan for a second stint in 2009. The left winger played just 15 games for the Rangers in the 2011-2012 campaign and hasn’t played in the league since.

“When I was a Ranger, no one was happier to walk into the Garden every day than me,” the 33-year-old told the newspaper. “I loved the team. I still do. I want the atmosphere to be the best it can be for the players. I want everyone in New York to be proud of the team. That’s why I felt the way I did (on Wednesday), and that’s why I sent that tweet.”

Oh, what tweet does he speak of?

Minutes after New York fell to the Montreal Canadiens, 3-0, on March 30, Avery publicly called for Tortorella’s firing.

I hadn’t said anything for a long time — since I stopped playing, actually,” Avery told the New York Post. “I hadn’t watched a full game all year. But I watched that game from start to finish. All my emotions as a Ranger came back. It was comforting to hear Joe Micheletti’s voice. And then to see what I saw … it wasn’t right. I had to say something.

“Then there was that statement from (captain Ryan Callahan) on behalf of the team saying I didn’t speak for them. Well, OK, whatever. But look what happened.”

Avery was placed on waivers by New York on December 30, 2011, but was never claimed. On March 13, 2012, he said that he was retiring, but his agent said that the 10-year player was just joking.

“There’s no bitterness, and I’ll tell you why,” Avery told the newspaper. “When John Tortorella forced me out of one career, that opened the door for me on a whole new career and life in New York that is perfect for me … I said the day I came back to the Rangers that Tortorella was going to be the best thing for me in my career. Well, he was the worst thing ever that could have happened to my hockey career but the best thing that ever happened to my life.

“And if I saw John Tortorella on the street, I would give him that sly Avery grin that so many people have been on the other end of, and that would be it.”

rival.

everyone mentioning messier the past couple of days made me dig up some videos of his NYR playing days. god damn what a boss.








that is all.

MayDay10

They are interviewing Vigneault.

Meh....

Dallas is interviewing Eakins. That is the blue-chip prize.

igotid88

Callahan and Hagelin underwent shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum

Bathgate66

igotid88 wrote:

Callahan and Hagelin underwent shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum

and they were still out there battling.

badbrains

I'm gonna say tippet. I have a feeling he's the one. I keep hearing messier but dnt know if he's ready or willing.

Bathgate66

I may be in the minority but I am not into Gretz or The Captain.
Love them both, but
Performance behind the bench and on the ice are 2 different animals.

Bathgate66

what is the deal with the " compliance buyout" ?

And should it be used on Richards, or should they give him another camp and full year with the still unknown new coach ?

Bathgate66