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i was question the 1st three shooters as well. I guess they were depending on Henrik too much. Instead of trying for the win. It's they were playing as if there was 1 more game to go.
disappointing, but the blueshirts def. gave us plenty to cheer about with their final 10 games. they would have dove head first into the playoffs with crazy momentum againt the devils.
not making the playoffs was such a routine year after year. but it does feel like a while since they've been on the outside looking in. lets keep the fingers and toes crossed that sather goes vacationing in mexico and goes "missing" this summer.
going to be a hell of a devs/flyers series though.
Stunned by my own reflection, it's looking back sees me too clearly and I swore I'd never go there again. Not unlike a friend that politely drags you down.
Glad to see gaborik finally score a lot of points though, he is a fantastic player.
Maybe this season is over, but I assure you this thread just wont go away.
It been alive and kicking since 2006 so go figure,...
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Im still questioning the shooter selection by Torts.
No Dubinsky?
Olli Jokinen to tie it ?
OK so Gaborik suffers from Jagr-shootout-itis,
but he still woulda been better than that rental player Jokinen,
we wouldve had to have faced Washington so i dont know how much further we wouldve been playing,...
but it still woulve been nice to get in,... to ice that final push we made off,
makes it all for naught,
million dollar question, does Torts / Sather get fired?
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million dollar question, does Torts / Sather get fired?
as sorta an outsider torts to me isn't a rags coach like trots was. so yes i think torts should be fired. sather has had enough chances to build a cup contending team and has failed big time. i mean he's bought in guys like lindros and bure and redden who all were big time misses. gabroik and avery were huge risk but paid off well. you also have to look at what hes done for the farm. look i'm the biggest rags hater like every other isles fan is but when all 3 local teams are in the playoffs the energy the local area has is different.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
yesterdays papers all suggest that Tortts and Sathers jobs' are both safe.
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GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- New York Rangers coach John Tortorella has had two days to mull his team's disappointing out-of-the-playoffs finish, and already knows what changes he wants made.
The blustery Tortorella believes the Rangers need to get younger, add character to the dressing room, and remove players that don't fit his program.
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"I wasn't crazy about the room," the pull-no-punches Tortorella said Tuesday as the Rangers packed up for the summer. "That isn't an indictment of [captain] Chris Drury or Ryan Callahan or our leadership group. I think some people need to be weeded out of there. It's certainly not our core people.
"I think that room doesn't sustain itself. I don't think the room's a strong room."
High on the list of veterans who might not return next season is defenseman Wade Redden, who still has four years left on a big-money contract and could be a candidate to have his deal bought out or be sent to the minors to take his salary off the cap.
"I think some guys need to be bumped out," Tortorella said.
Veteran backup goalie Alex Auld, acquired during the Olympic break, doesn't seem likely to return. Tortorella said the Rangers are already scouring the list of potentially available goalies who would be able to give Henrik Lundqvist a rest and limit his appearances to the 65-70 game range.
The sting of New York's 2-1 shootout loss in Philadelphia that eliminated the Rangers on Sunday still permeated the practice rink that was darkened and quiet.
The Rangers started the season strong with a 7-1 spurt and ended it well by going 7-1-2 in their final 10. But inconsistent play in the other 64 games ruined New York's chances for a fifth straight playoff appearance.
"It's tough to come in here and say goodbye and pack up your stuff and know you have five months of thinking," forward Brandon Dubinsky said. "The biggest thing is making sure we remember how we felt."
That was one overriding theme during a breakup day that most on the team came too soon. The other key talking point among the Rangers as they took physicals and finished exit interviews was that games in October, November and December count just as much as those in crunch time of March April.
Yes, they were eliminated in crushing fashion during Sunday's shootout, but the reality is that the season was really doomed well before then. A win or two earlier would have been enough to get the Rangers into the top eight places in the Eastern Conference with room to spare on the final day of the season.
"One of the toughest losses I've had," said Lundqvist, who made 46 saves in a brilliant final-day performance. "It was so close. The whole year comes down to that."
New York finished in ninth place, one point behind Montreal -- which is readying for a first-round matchup with top-seeded Washington instead of heading home for a long summer.
Tortorella said adding more character guys to the team such as late-season acquisitions Brandon Prust and Jody Shelley would greatly help the Rangers in the future. And instilling even more youth to a foundation group that features forwards Marian Gaborik, Callahan, and Dubinsky, along with 19-year-old defenseman Michael Del Zotto and Marc Staal would make it easier for New York to establish a team identity.
"We don't have enough," Tortorella said. "I'm not saying it's anybody's fault. I think we have a young core, now if you get some people sprinkled around then with character, I think we need to get some people out of the bus."
Tortorella also called out players for their sub-par performance on Sunday.
Outside of Lundqvist and the gritty line of Artem Anisimov, Prust and Shelley that produced the Rangers' only goal, Tortorella was disappointed in Gaborik, who hit career highs with 42 goals and 86 points, and others on the top lines that couldn't get the Rangers over the top with the season on the line.
The Rangers set up a winner-take-all game by beating Philadelphia 4-3 on Friday night in the first half of the home-and-home series.
"We played a [gutsy] game against Philly in our building and we had zero top guys show up in Philly, which was despicable," Tortorella said. "I think Gaborik's a legitimate star but I don't like the way he has played in big games. I think he needs to cross the line there, but we've got some pieces here.
"We need to add to it. Then when you get an opportunity -- hey, I might not even be here -- but when you get there and you're not fighting ninth and eighth every year you might be a legitimately good team for a while."
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- New York Rangers coach John Tortorella has had two days to mull his team's disappointing out-of-the-playoffs finish, and already knows what changes he wants made.
The blustery Tortorella believes the Rangers need to get younger, add character to the dressing room, and remove players that don't fit his program.
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"I wasn't crazy about the room," the pull-no-punches Tortorella said Tuesday as the Rangers packed up for the summer. "That isn't an indictment of [captain] Chris Drury or Ryan Callahan or our leadership group. I think some people need to be weeded out of there. It's certainly not our core people.
"I think that room doesn't sustain itself. I don't think the room's a strong room."
High on the list of veterans who might not return next season is defenseman Wade Redden, who still has four years left on a big-money contract and could be a candidate to have his deal bought out or be sent to the minors to take his salary off the cap.
"I think some guys need to be bumped out," Tortorella said.
Veteran backup goalie Alex Auld, acquired during the Olympic break, doesn't seem likely to return. Tortorella said the Rangers are already scouring the list of potentially available goalies who would be able to give Henrik Lundqvist a rest and limit his appearances to the 65-70 game range.
The sting of New York's 2-1 shootout loss in Philadelphia that eliminated the Rangers on Sunday still permeated the practice rink that was darkened and quiet.
The Rangers started the season strong with a 7-1 spurt and ended it well by going 7-1-2 in their final 10. But inconsistent play in the other 64 games ruined New York's chances for a fifth straight playoff appearance.
"It's tough to come in here and say goodbye and pack up your stuff and know you have five months of thinking," forward Brandon Dubinsky said. "The biggest thing is making sure we remember how we felt."
That was one overriding theme during a breakup day that most on the team came too soon. The other key talking point among the Rangers as they took physicals and finished exit interviews was that games in October, November and December count just as much as those in crunch time of March April.
Yes, they were eliminated in crushing fashion during Sunday's shootout, but the reality is that the season was really doomed well before then. A win or two earlier would have been enough to get the Rangers into the top eight places in the Eastern Conference with room to spare on the final day of the season.
"One of the toughest losses I've had," said Lundqvist, who made 46 saves in a brilliant final-day performance. "It was so close. The whole year comes down to that."
New York finished in ninth place, one point behind Montreal -- which is readying for a first-round matchup with top-seeded Washington instead of heading home for a long summer.
Tortorella said adding more character guys to the team such as late-season acquisitions Brandon Prust and Jody Shelley would greatly help the Rangers in the future. And instilling even more youth to a foundation group that features forwards Marian Gaborik, Callahan, and Dubinsky, along with 19-year-old defenseman Michael Del Zotto and Marc Staal would make it easier for New York to establish a team identity.
"We don't have enough," Tortorella said. "I'm not saying it's anybody's fault. I think we have a young core, now if you get some people sprinkled around then with character, I think we need to get some people out of the bus."
Tortorella also called out players for their sub-par performance on Sunday.
Outside of Lundqvist and the gritty line of Artem Anisimov, Prust and Shelley that produced the Rangers' only goal, Tortorella was disappointed in Gaborik, who hit career highs with 42 goals and 86 points, and others on the top lines that couldn't get the Rangers over the top with the season on the line.
The Rangers set up a winner-take-all game by beating Philadelphia 4-3 on Friday night in the first half of the home-and-home series.
"We played a [gutsy] game against Philly in our building and we had zero top guys show up in Philly, which was despicable," Tortorella said. "I think Gaborik's a legitimate star but I don't like the way he has played in big games. I think he needs to cross the line there, but we've got some pieces here.
"We need to add to it. Then when you get an opportunity -- hey, I might not even be here -- but when you get there and you're not fighting ninth and eighth every year you might be a legitimately good team for a while."
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
interesting read- but only pointing out that Auld wont return ,... and Redden as the scapegoats in " the room" ?
Then he goes after Gaborik, yet he didnt line him up in the shootout?
Sounds like a bit of double talk-
i liked Torts , but dont know if all that yelling and screaming does the trick,
perhasp its time to bring in messier,...
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after all that speculation of should we make the playoffs, or not ? - ( to secure that chance in the draft lottery ) turns out we get the 10th pick while edmonton wins the first pick.
So after all said and done , no real advvantage there.
Bye bye to Jokinenen and looks like Redden willl be bought out.
:roll: :roll:
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Dubinsky & Gilroy both selected for representing team USA
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interesting jab at gaborik. "don't like the way he has performed in big games." did torts already forget that he scored the game winner in game # 81? a win that lead to a meaningful game # 82?
interesting jab at gaborik. "don't like the way he has performed in big games." did torts already forget that he scored the game winner in game # 81? a win that lead to a meaningful game # 82?
Torts doing the double talk on that one
Puts Gabo up on a pedestal,
then leaves him off the shootout roster.
I dunno,....
hear i thought i was done with my random isles posts for the season
Gillroy is also a native of North Bellmore, Long Island, NY .
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NHL general managers are under the impression next year's cap will come in at approximately $58 million if, as expected, the NHLPA triggers the five-percent inflator. That means the summer cap will be approximately $63.8 million, thus leaving the Rangers around $17 million with which to sign Marc Staal and Dan Girardi and address the rest of the roster's deficiencies.
Assume that the Blueshirts, who will be obliged to carry Wade Redden's $6.5 million cap hit until he can be waived off the NHL roster during training camp, will spend in the $1.75-2 million neighborhood on a backup for Henrik Lundqvist, with Martin Biron and Johan Hedberg believed at the top of GM Glen Sather's wish list.
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John Tortorella returned from the Rangers' organizational meetings to undergo hip replacement surgery on Monday, an operation that necessitated a five-day stay in the hospital
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Olii Jokinenen ?
I dunno bout that one,...
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i woulda went
dubie
cally
gabroik
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
HaHa!
RIP 2009-2010 Blueshirts.
Glad to see gaborik finally score a lot of points though, he is a fantastic player.
Never a doubt
Henrik kept you in it by far...he was great
No Gaborik in the shootout ?
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disappointing, but the blueshirts def. gave us plenty to cheer about with their final 10 games. they would have dove head first into the playoffs with crazy momentum againt the devils.
not making the playoffs was such a routine year after year. but it does feel like a while since they've been on the outside looking in. lets keep the fingers and toes crossed that sather goes vacationing in mexico and goes "missing" this summer.
going to be a hell of a devs/flyers series though.
sorry i had to
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best sports thread on the AET ..still kicking
he thought he was youngblood
and then that bullcrap move
I watched that movie endlessly growing up
Former Flyer Peter Zezel was in it
RIP
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as did i
thats the first thing i thought of when he started circling :roll:
only thing is youngblood sscored
please beat the devils
No Dubinsky?
Olli Jokinen to tie it ?
OK so Gaborik suffers from Jagr-shootout-itis,
but he still woulda been better than that rental player Jokinen,
we wouldve had to have faced Washington so i dont know how much further we wouldve been playing,...
but it still woulve been nice to get in,... to ice that final push we made off,
makes it all for naught,
million dollar question, does Torts / Sather get fired?
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so NO post game coverage-- at all.
wtf ?
http://video.msg.com/Videos/MSG-Network ... lyers-4-11
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The blustery Tortorella believes the Rangers need to get younger, add character to the dressing room, and remove players that don't fit his program.
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"I wasn't crazy about the room," the pull-no-punches Tortorella said Tuesday as the Rangers packed up for the summer. "That isn't an indictment of [captain] Chris Drury or Ryan Callahan or our leadership group. I think some people need to be weeded out of there. It's certainly not our core people.
"I think that room doesn't sustain itself. I don't think the room's a strong room."
High on the list of veterans who might not return next season is defenseman Wade Redden, who still has four years left on a big-money contract and could be a candidate to have his deal bought out or be sent to the minors to take his salary off the cap.
"I think some guys need to be bumped out," Tortorella said.
Veteran backup goalie Alex Auld, acquired during the Olympic break, doesn't seem likely to return. Tortorella said the Rangers are already scouring the list of potentially available goalies who would be able to give Henrik Lundqvist a rest and limit his appearances to the 65-70 game range.
The sting of New York's 2-1 shootout loss in Philadelphia that eliminated the Rangers on Sunday still permeated the practice rink that was darkened and quiet.
The Rangers started the season strong with a 7-1 spurt and ended it well by going 7-1-2 in their final 10. But inconsistent play in the other 64 games ruined New York's chances for a fifth straight playoff appearance.
"It's tough to come in here and say goodbye and pack up your stuff and know you have five months of thinking," forward Brandon Dubinsky said. "The biggest thing is making sure we remember how we felt."
That was one overriding theme during a breakup day that most on the team came too soon. The other key talking point among the Rangers as they took physicals and finished exit interviews was that games in October, November and December count just as much as those in crunch time of March April.
Yes, they were eliminated in crushing fashion during Sunday's shootout, but the reality is that the season was really doomed well before then. A win or two earlier would have been enough to get the Rangers into the top eight places in the Eastern Conference with room to spare on the final day of the season.
"One of the toughest losses I've had," said Lundqvist, who made 46 saves in a brilliant final-day performance. "It was so close. The whole year comes down to that."
New York finished in ninth place, one point behind Montreal -- which is readying for a first-round matchup with top-seeded Washington instead of heading home for a long summer.
Tortorella said adding more character guys to the team such as late-season acquisitions Brandon Prust and Jody Shelley would greatly help the Rangers in the future. And instilling even more youth to a foundation group that features forwards Marian Gaborik, Callahan, and Dubinsky, along with 19-year-old defenseman Michael Del Zotto and Marc Staal would make it easier for New York to establish a team identity.
"We don't have enough," Tortorella said. "I'm not saying it's anybody's fault. I think we have a young core, now if you get some people sprinkled around then with character, I think we need to get some people out of the bus."
Tortorella also called out players for their sub-par performance on Sunday.
Outside of Lundqvist and the gritty line of Artem Anisimov, Prust and Shelley that produced the Rangers' only goal, Tortorella was disappointed in Gaborik, who hit career highs with 42 goals and 86 points, and others on the top lines that couldn't get the Rangers over the top with the season on the line.
The Rangers set up a winner-take-all game by beating Philadelphia 4-3 on Friday night in the first half of the home-and-home series.
"We played a [gutsy] game against Philly in our building and we had zero top guys show up in Philly, which was despicable," Tortorella said. "I think Gaborik's a legitimate star but I don't like the way he has played in big games. I think he needs to cross the line there, but we've got some pieces here.
"We need to add to it. Then when you get an opportunity -- hey, I might not even be here -- but when you get there and you're not fighting ninth and eighth every year you might be a legitimately good team for a while."
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
interesting read- but only pointing out that Auld wont return ,... and Redden as the scapegoats in " the room" ?
Then he goes after Gaborik, yet he didnt line him up in the shootout?
Sounds like a bit of double talk-
i liked Torts , but dont know if all that yelling and screaming does the trick,
perhasp its time to bring in messier,...
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So after all said and done , no real advvantage there.
Bye bye to Jokinenen and looks like Redden willl be bought out.
:roll:
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hear i thought i was done with my random isles posts for the season
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Torts doing the double talk on that one
Puts Gabo up on a pedestal,
then leaves him off the shootout roster.
I dunno,....
Gillroy is also a native of North Bellmore, Long Island, NY .
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for that big silver stacked cup,
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NHL general managers are under the impression next year's cap will come in at approximately $58 million if, as expected, the NHLPA triggers the five-percent inflator. That means the summer cap will be approximately $63.8 million, thus leaving the Rangers around $17 million with which to sign Marc Staal and Dan Girardi and address the rest of the roster's deficiencies.
Assume that the Blueshirts, who will be obliged to carry Wade Redden's $6.5 million cap hit until he can be waived off the NHL roster during training camp, will spend in the $1.75-2 million neighborhood on a backup for Henrik Lundqvist, with Martin Biron and Johan Hedberg believed at the top of GM Glen Sather's wish list.
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didn't know all the stress effected the hips!
Just when I thought I might like him..the douche wears sunglasses the whole show :roll:
The girl he was with was hot as hell..tall model looking type
He's still a douche
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it's nice to see they are enjoying the off season