anybody want to join me on a great white dive?

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

oh jeanie what are you afraid of? you're in a cage.

and i figure if rodney fox can bring himself to reach out and pat a great white on the snout then i can surely lower myself into the water in a cage and watch them.

Nope!!! NO WAY!!! **shakes head violently**

There's not a cage strong enough that I'd feel safe in.

Those creatures are just so powerful, such an effective human killing machine that I know when I'm licked and I have no plans to invade their territory.

I'm happy enough to watch them and appreciate them from dry land. No need to be dangling meself around as fish food!

But I really admire people that can and do go into their world. I'm just not one of them and I'll never be.

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

Nope!!! NO WAY!!! **shakes head violently**

There's not a cage strong enough that I'd feel safe in.

Those creatures are just so powerful, such an effective human killing machine that I know when I'm licked and I have no plans to invade their territory.

I'm happy enough to watch them and appreciate them from dry land. No need to be dangling meself around as fish food!

But I really admire people that can and do go into their world. I'm just not one of them and I'll never be.

no no jeanie. dont look at them as effective human killing machines. they dont know youre human. youre in the water, so them it stands to reason you must be food. and they dont attack every time either.
but youre right. i dont have to go into the water and i know i dont belong there. so i am most respectful of who's in charge of the oceans.

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

no no jeanie. dont look at them as effective human killing machines. they dont know youre human. youre in the water, so them it stands to reason you must be food. and they dont attack every time either.
but youre right. i dont have to go into the water and i know i dont belong there. so i am most respectful of who's in charge of the oceans.

But they are! I understand that it's all relative to their instinct and reality. I realize they aren't sitting there plotting my demise specifically but that's not gonna amount to a hill of beans to me if they decide today is the day to chomp on down on Jeanie. Right?
If I don't want to be fish food I gotta make sure I don't go anywhere that I might be construed as fish food!

I mean I have no problem with going into the ocean. I know it's their territory but I figure if one gets me then it's not like I'm gonna see it coming or anything. And it's pretty rare statistically so as long as I'm swimming and surfing with the rest of the smorgasboard I figure I statistically improve my chances!

I'd have trouble swimming with whales and I can't tell you how nerve wracking it it was for me being in the water with dolphins either. I am the girl most likely to get bitten, so knowing this I figure why tempt fate?

Besides there are lots of really fabulous documentaries and opportunities to see them in environments that are safe for me. And besides, these guys are gonna go do it and I can live vicariously through their experience!

catefrances

oops.

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

But they are! I understand that it's all relative to their instinct and reality. I realize they aren't sitting there plotting my demise specifically but that's not gonna amount to a hill of beans to me if they decide today is the day to chomp on down on Jeanie. Right? : )
If I don't want to be fish food I gotta make sure I don't go anywhere that I might be construed as fish food! : D

I mean I have no problem with going into the ocean. I know it's their territory but I figure if one gets me then it's not like I'm gonna see it coming or anything. And it's pretty rare statistically so as long as I'm swimming and surfing with the rest of the smorgasboard I figure I statistically improve my chances! : D

I'd have trouble swimming with whales and I can't tell you how nerve wracking it it was for me being in the water with dolphins either. I am the girl most likely to get bitten, so knowing this I figure why tempt fate? : )

Besides there are lots of really fabulous documentaries and opportunities to see them in environments that are safe for me. And besides, these guys are gonna go do it and I can live vicariously through their experience! ; )

i remember when i was really young and we'd go into the surf. i'd always go out as far as my abilities enabled me to, which was fairly far. anyhoo my logic was that so long as i kept one person between me and the deep blue ocean, i'd be safe. as i got older, i learnt that sharks come closer into shore to feed, according to their territory. so that kinda blew my safety guidelines out of the water, so to speak. then i thought oh well who cares.

as for dolphins. no thanks i dont like them. always laughing and carrying on, leaping out of the water like they do. 'cept for orcas of course. those i love.

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

i remember when i was really young and we'd go into the surf. i'd always go out as far as my abilities enabled me to, which was fairly far. anyhoo my logic was that so long as i kept one person between me and the deep blue ocean, i'd be safe. as i got older, i learnt that sharks come closer into shore to feed, according to their territory. so that kinda blew my safety guidelines out of the water, so to speak. then i thought oh well who cares.

as for dolphins. no thanks i dont like them. always laughing and carrying on, leaping out of the water like they do. 'cept for orcas of course. those i love.

Oh I played that game too! But then I worked out that even if they come right in as long as they have LOTS of other choices with a bit of luck I won't be person de jour!

Earthgirl

it sounds like so much fun.. but can't next summer as I am buying an acreage and having a house built on it then. But next time you go for sure !!

Heineken Helen

NY PJ1 wrote:

well we were there 4 days

so we made 5-6 dives per day = 20-24 dives
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anyway the first 2 days everybody was ready for every dive

as the trip went on people started skipping a dive here and there

wheter they were fishing or sunning

point being the last 2 days me and my bro made quite a few dives by ourselves

but if people wanted to go then they maxed out at 4 per cage

i did make an early dive on my 2nd day b4 anybody else was up

i was up early fishing and i caught a big tuna and the mate was like
u wanna eat it or use it ? im like huh ?
so he was like get ur suit on and we'll tie this bad boy up and throw him overboard for breakfast lol that was awesome alone watching a big tuna get torn up

holy fuck, that WOULD be cool . Well we were only 4 'clients' on the boat so we all got a go each for as long as we wanted and we could have all gone again and again... only we physically couldn't we were all pretty seasick... one of the lads threw up over the side

Heineken Helen

catefrances wrote:

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

you know there are two things on my to do list for 2008.

one is to see a rangers game. diving with great whites is the other. however i'll be doing it off the coast of south australia. the adrenalin rushes through my body just thinking about it. i love sharks. they are just beautiful perfect creatures.

awwww Cate, that's excellent when ya gonna do it? It's gonna be one of the best things you've ever done.

NY PJ1

failedpersephone wrote:

I was in Frisco (what can I say, I'm a SoCAL girl!) for pj too!

I hope you werent the douche that spilled beer on my flip flops!

nope ,,i dont drink at pj shows ,, i have to piss too much

NY PJ1

Jeanie wrote:

:eek: :eek:

Whaaaa aaat??? Are you MENTAL????? :eek:

I can barely watch them on the tele they freak me out so much! Never mind actually knowingly getting in the water with them!!! Screw that!!!

But I admire you immensely for having a go at it. Do make sure and come back and tell us all about it so I can revel in the horror of your stupendous stupidity and bravery!

i went on the trip already 3 years ago lol
no danger at all

they really have no interest in us once they realize we are not food

all the surfing attacks happen because they mistake the surfers for seals


but people standing in steel cages with cameras and video cameras are not mistaken for food therefore they just say hello and move along to the tuna

NY PJ1

Jeanie wrote:

Nope!!! NO WAY!!! **shakes head violently**

There's not a cage strong enough that I'd feel safe in.

Those creatures are just so powerful, such an effective human killing machine that I know when I'm licked and I have no plans to invade their territory.

I'm happy enough to watch them and appreciate them from dry land. No need to be dangling meself around as fish food!

But I really admire people that can and do go into their world. I'm just not one of them and I'll never be.

effective HUMAN killing machines???? huh

thats so far from the truth

u watch to many attack shows and not enough shows about the truth

NY PJ1

Jeanie wrote:

Nope!!! NO WAY!!! **shakes head violently**

There's not a cage strong enough that I'd feel safe in.

Those creatures are just so powerful, such an effective human killing machine that I know when I'm licked and I have no plans to invade their territory.

I'm happy enough to watch them and appreciate them from dry land. No need to be dangling meself around as fish food!

But I really admire people that can and do go into their world. I'm just not one of them and I'll never be.

double post

Jeanie

NY PJ1 wrote:

i went on the trip already 3 years ago lol
no danger at all

they really have no interest in us once they realize we are not food

all the surfing attacks happen because they mistake the surfers for seals


but people standing in steel cages with cameras and video cameras are not mistaken for food therefore they just say hello and move along to the tuna

Do you have pics??? It would be an awesome experience but not one for me. Did you get to touch? I would like to know what they feel like but not enough to go visit them.

Jeanie

NY PJ1 wrote:

effective HUMAN killing machines???? huh

thats so far from the truth

u watch to many attack shows and not enough shows about the truth

No it's not. They are very effective at killing humans. And have done.
I don't think that means they stalk and plot to kill humans specifically or that there's anything wrong with them following their natural instinct but the fact remains that if one came across me in the water and for whatever reason decided to bite me there's a better than average chance that I will be killed. So to that end they are very effective human killing machines. I don't think they're programmed to kill humans but it does happen. And I do think that you would be much more likely to come away from a great white attack dead than if you were attacked by a rabid wombat.

I rarely watch shark attack shows, most of my viewing when it comes to sharks are documentaries. The best one of which was about these two crazy marine biologists heading out in this WAY TOO small boat every day for weeks just to study them. A fantastic piece of footage. One that I'm more than happy to watch.

Heineken Helen

Jeanie, think about how many people swim, surf, whatever every year worldwide... now compare that to how many attacks there are worldwide. It's a tiny tiny tiny barely even there percentage. There's a MUCH bigger chance of drowning or being run over by a speedboat/jetski or being killed by seaweed. How many of these attacks occur against somebody in a cage? Think about THAT next time you cross the road :eek:

Heineken Helen

Also, I think there are more people killed every year by elephants than any other animal and elephants are lovely gentle things.

NY PJ1

Jeanie wrote:

Do you have pics??? It would be an awesome experience but not one for me. Did you get to touch? I would like to know what they feel like but not enough to go visit them.

actually i have a dvd of the trip

i do have pics but all hard copies

i dont use photobucket or any of that crap


all i can say is send me ur email and i can send u 1 or 2

just the setup no sharks in these pictures


but yes i got awesome pics and video

Jeanie

Heineken Helen wrote:

Jeanie, think about how many people swim, surf, whatever every year worldwide... now compare that to how many attacks there are worldwide. It's a tiny tiny tiny barely even there percentage. There's a MUCH bigger chance of drowning or being run over by a speedboat/jetski or being killed by seaweed. How many of these attacks occur against somebody in a cage? Think about THAT next time you cross the road : eek:

This from the girl that's too scared to come to Oz because of the spiders?

I know that statistically shark attack is most likely not going to happen, but put it down to my personal :eek: factor ok? I really love sharks and I think they're amazing but they do eat people and that's not how I would want to die. Actually I wouldn't even want to be bitten by one, because I know I'd come off second best. AND as I mentioned before today, maybe not in this thread, but somewhere here today, I am the girl most likely to be bitten. I've been bitten by practically EVERYTHING so knowing that I live under the cloud of a Murphy's Law type deal, why would I risk it?

And aside from all that, in order to see one the way you're talking about here I'd have to scuba dive. And I just can't see that happening either. It's really not my thing. Well it's not not my thing I just acknowledge that it's probably not a good idea for me. A bit like I don't think I should bungy jump.
It's not about me hating sharks or seeing them as evil, it's about recognizing what I would enjoy and what I would not enjoy and dropping down into the ocean in a cage, with an oxygen tank strapped to my back while giant sharks swam by really isn't something I'd enjoy. BUT I do get a buzz out of other people doing it.

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