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big papi with twins then with sox

NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
edited December 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
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dont tell me he didnt do it along w/ everybody else

75% of the league does it
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  • rearviewmirorrearviewmiror Posts: 894
    He's gotten progressively bigger, and he is a big man. Talk about jealousy. Why dont you take a look at his baseball cards year after year and check out the difference.

    we can do this with anyone:

    A-Rod Mariners prospect: http://images.usatoday.com/sports/preps/_photos/2005-06-27-in-arod.jpg

    Yankee A-Rod: http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/alex-rodriguez/pictures/alex-rodriguez-picture-1.jpg
    9/7/98, 8/3/00, 9/4/00, 4/15/03, 7/1/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 5/24/06, 5/25/06, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 5/17/10, 10/15/13, 10/16/13.
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    rearviewmiror wrote:
    He's gotten progressively bigger, and he is a big man. Talk about jealousy. Why dont you take a look at his baseball cards year after year and check out the difference.


    thats a load of crap

    im not gonna argue in this thread,, but only he has gotten bigger naturally?

    it sounds so stupid

    jealousy no,,,just pointing out the truth
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle Posts: 10,724
    All I know is anyone can take supplements and get bigger as they age. I'm bigger now at 32 than I was at 21 muscle wise. I didn't take any enhancers. As people age they fill out and get more body mass(in most cases) Once you gain that mass and start working out religiously you are going to look a lot bigger.

    Not saying that 50% of MLB isn't on roids. I'm just saying you can get bigger by just working out and aging.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Christ, take two pics of me from 10 years apart and it will look like I've done steroids too. But really I just drank more beer :D
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    awwww papi.

    i love you :)

    and i love me them world series champions too!

    buahahahahahahaha
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    I'm a yankees fan but i think we can't just always assume just because someone has gained mass they are on the roids.

    When Ortiz left the twins he was 26 his first year with the sox he was 27. Generally speaking 27 is the age you put it all together on average. Experience and still at your peak physical condition. He jumped from 20 - 31 HR's in his first year with the sox his break out year.

    He then went on to put up 41 47 54 in the next three season before dipping back down to 35 this year.

    Now if for the rest of his career he stays around low to mid 30's for the most part you would easily be able to look back on his career and say well Those 4 or 5 years were his prime years in his career where everything was clicking.

    Maybe Fenway helped some to it is a good hitters park.

    That said i must admit he did put on a TON of mass and i would not be surprised if it came out he did use roids. I tried to do a google search and find out what his weight was his last year with the Twins and his first year with the sox to see if their was a massive jump. That might be a telling sign. anyone know that for curiosity sake?
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    and now his knees are going out like the rest
    if he played 1st base his knees would have went 2 -3 years ago


    its the hgh ,,thats what everyone is on
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    awwww papi.

    i love you :)

    and i love me them world series champions too!

    buahahahahahahaha


    yea its good that the yanks beat the mets in 2000 all juiced up

    having a good laugh w/ that
  • rearviewmirorrearviewmiror Posts: 894
    There is no proof. Like I said if you look through his pictures he got bigger every year. The sox were concerned about it. He was so big this year because he had bad knees. And don't go spouting BS about HGH abd his knees. He had bad knees in Minny too.
    9/7/98, 8/3/00, 9/4/00, 4/15/03, 7/1/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 5/24/06, 5/25/06, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 5/17/10, 10/15/13, 10/16/13.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    rearviewmiror wrote:
    A-Rod Mariners prospect: http://images.usatoday.com/sports/preps/_photos/2005-06-27-in-arod.jpg

    Yankee A-Rod: http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/alex-rodriguez/pictures/alex-rodriguez-picture-1.jpg
    Wow Arod is definitely on the juice. Must have started when he reached NY like all the others.

    Mew MLB record books:
    World Series winners:
    1990: Cincinnati Reds
    1991: Minnesota Twins
    1992: Toronto Blue Jays
    1993: Toronto Blue Jays
    1994: Cancelled due to players' strike
    1995: Atlanta Braves
    1996: New York Yankees*
    1997: Florida Marlins
    1998: New York Yankees*
    1999: New York Yankees*
    2000: New York Yankees*
    2001: Arizona Diamondbacks
    2002: Anaheim Angels
    2003: Florida Marlins
    2004: Boston Red Sox
    2005: Chicago White Sox
    2006: St. Louis cardinals
    2007: Boston Red Sox

    *Cheated
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    no proof yes thats true


    common sense is also true

    dont get uptight everyone is doing it
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Poncier wrote:
    Wow Arod is definitely on the juice. Must have started when he reached NY like all the others.

    Mew MLB record books:
    World Series winners:
    1990: Cincinnati Reds
    1991: Minnesota Twins
    1992: Toronto Blue Jays
    1993: Toronto Blue Jays
    1994: Cancelled due to players' strike
    1995: Atlanta Braves
    1996: New York Yankees*
    1997: Florida Marlins
    1998: New York Yankees*
    1999: New York Yankees*
    2000: New York Yankees*
    2001: Arizona Diamondbacks
    2002: Anaheim Angels
    2003: Florida Marlins
    2004: Boston Red Sox
    2005: Chicago White Sox
    2006: St. Louis cardinals
    2007: Boston Red Sox

    *Cheated

    nah he has just gotten bigger :eek: gimme a break
    they're all on juice

    as for the record books,, they dont hold much weight with this sport nowadays ,,its all **********
    aaron boone was on it also !!!!!!!!!!!! lol
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    dont get uptight everyone is doing it

    and of course papi was the only one you could find a photo of, to use as your example, even though 'everyone is doing it'.
    if i was a man, i'd have a hard on right now. 'the yankees are crying, the yankees are crying!' it's almost orgasmic.

    winners are grinners my friend :)

    that is all.
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    and of course papi was the only one you could find a photo of, to use as your example, even though 'everyone is doing it'.
    if i was a man, i'd have a hard on right now. 'the yankees are crying, the yankees are crying!' it's almost orgasmic.

    winners are grinners my friend :)

    that is all.


    i pulled up his picture cause i have 2 sux fans here at work

    and i figured i might as well show it on the board


    ur a political person,,whats with the sports all of a sudden?

    no one is crying,, just saying alot of players not on the list are juiced up

    papi and arod included

    ur all politics,,whats with the sports all of a sudden
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    ur a political person,,whats with the sports all of a sudden?
    ur all politics,,whats with the sports all of a sudden
    uhm excuse me?
    if you are going to check out my posts, it might pay you to actually look properly. i do post in the moving train forum sometimes. i am far from a political person. the majority of my posts are in the musicians and gearheads forum. i play guitar. i'm also a massive sox fan and even though i don't venutre in here too often, your post title intrigued me. i adore papi.

    who made you the post checking police anyway?
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    and of course papi was the only one you could find a photo of, to use as your example, even though 'everyone is doing it'.
    if i was a man, i'd have a hard on right now. 'the yankees are crying, the yankees are crying!' it's almost orgasmic.

    winners are grinners my friend :)

    that is all.

    Not sure who these yankees are that are crying. I mean in all honesty the report yesterday was a big joke. All they have is a he said she said report. With the exception of those folks who they have checks/money orders from.

    I don't think many fans of any team is reading too much into this. I think everyone knows hgh and steroids have been a problem and many people on all teams have used them.

    Personally i'm excited about next year.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Like I posted yesterday:

    You make a good argument, but in 1997 when that picture was taken he hit 31 home runs in 539 at bats in the minors. He was hurt in 98 and in 99 he hit 30 home runs in 476 at bats. You could easily argue that he hard a hard time adjusting to the major leagues because the Twins wanted him to focus more on playing small ball and the fact he wasn't an everyday player for his power numbers being low the first few seasons in the majors.

    Papi didn't start playing everyday until July of 03 and hit 27 of his 31 home runs from that point of the season and the rest has been history.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    How does Ortiz look like he's on the juice? It looks like the fucker simply got fat, thus the knees take a beating, obviously. Am I alone in thinking that he doesn't look any more muscular, just looks like he ate too many fucking burgers and shit?
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Looking at the first pic again, he looks way more muscular. In the second pic, he simply looks fatter with less muscle..Horrible example, and it proves itself wrong..sorry to burst the Yankee bubble on this one..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    uhm excuse me?
    if you are going to check out my posts, it might pay you to actually look properly. i do post in the moving train forum sometimes. i am far from a political person. the majority of my posts are in the musicians and gearheads forum. i play guitar. i'm also a massive sox fan and even though i don't venutre in here too often, your post title intrigued me. i adore papi.

    who made you the post checking police anyway?


    just checking u out ,,cause ive never seen u b4
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    The Champ wrote:
    Looking at the first pic again, he looks way more muscular. In the second pic, he simply looks fatter with less muscle..Horrible example, and it proves itself wrong..sorry to burst the Yankee bubble on this one..


    guy the mets are non-existant
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    guy the mets are non-existant

    That's because big papi ate them...
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    guy the mets are non-existant

    As is the evidence to validate the argument in this thread..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    chromiam wrote:
    That's because big papi ate them...


    yea i know,,he just got fat .... riiight
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    The Champ wrote:
    As is the evidence to validate the argument in this thread..


    2nd class bud
    the quicker u come to terms with that ,,the better off you will be
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The Champ wrote:
    How does Ortiz look like he's on the juice? It looks like the fucker simply got fat, thus the knees take a beating, obviously. Am I alone in thinking that he doesn't look any more muscular, just looks like he ate too many fucking burgers and shit?

    Well, in one of the the Red Sox 04 WS dvds, they had a segment of cooking with Big Papi and if he eats the way he cooked in the segment most nights, it's no surprise he has gained a lot of weight now that he has more money.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    2nd class bud
    the quicker u come to terms with that ,,the better off you will be

    I came to terms with it years ago. Isn't it common knowledge, or what planet have you been on?? Anyway, I guess it's an easy response when you can't logically defend my comments regarding the topic of this thread..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    The Champ wrote:
    I came to terms with it years ago. Isn't it common knowledge, or what planet have you been on?? Anyway, I guess it's an easy response when you can't logically defend my comments regarding the topic of this thread..


    im not here for a debate

    does it burn u alittle more to know that the 2000 yanks were on roids? ;)

    if only timo would have taken some he would of scored lol
  • FnCircusFnCircus Posts: 439
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    nah he has just gotten bigger :eek: gimme a break
    they're all on juice lol
    everyone except Curt Schilling........just ask him.
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    F'n_Circus wrote:
    everyone except Curt Schilling........just ask him.


    their's another guy ,,

    ketchup sock
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