During John McCain's speech he said..

spyguy
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edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
"I Hate War"
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  • robbyblaylock
    robbyblaylock Posts: 428
    yeah. he also responded to in house protesters as "brown noise".
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    robbyblaylock wrote:
    yeah. he also responded to in house protesters as "brown noise".

    he did? what does that even mean?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    robbyblaylock wrote:
    yeah. he also responded to in house protesters as "brown noise".


    I thought he said "white noise and static"?
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    spyguy wrote:
    "I Hate War"


    he meant the song by Edwin Starr.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I thought he said "white noise and static"?

    Yeah, that's what I thought he said too.
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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I thought he said "white noise and static"?

    yup, thats what I remember. I also thought he handled it very well.


    anyway the point of my thread is to point out the McCain is not PRO WAR, or hoping for war, or going to go to war no matter what, or any of the closed minded opinions/assumptions people have.

    no one likes war. its just understood by some that national security is important. I think Obama and McCain both recognize that.
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxT7mh2hp0k

    He said "ground noise and static", I believe.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxT7mh2hp0k

    He said "ground noise and static", I believe.


    There ya go, yep, I think that's right...my bad.
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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Im for war with Alaska only.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Ok I know McCain is not the best orator but that speech was mind-numbing. For his sake I hope he picks up his game for the debates. Palin's, Biden's and Obama's speeches while extremely light on substance where at least watchable. It was just painful to sit there and watch McCain, I actually felt kind of bad that he came off so poorly.
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    spyguy wrote:
    "I Hate War"

    does that matter, the demograts will say differently. "drilling for fear, makes teh job simple"
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    I believe him.

    However, despite his hatred of war, he was a fierce supporter of a war fought under false pretenses that has left over 4,000 American soldiers dead. Despite how much I believe he hates war, he hasn't given us much of a sign that he would've done anything differently in 2003 than Bush.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    digster wrote:
    I believe him.

    However, despite his hatred of war, he was a fierce supporter of a war fought under false pretenses that has left over 4,000 American soldiers dead. Despite how much I believe he hates war, he hasn't given us much of a sign that he would've done anything differently in 2003 than Bush.

    the Iraq war is going to almost become a non-issue IMO. the time table is already being written out.

    with Obama troops might be out a few months faster but thats it. troops are going to come home regardless of who is the next president and at a similar pace.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    mammasan wrote:
    Ok I know McCain is not the best orator but that speech was mind-numbing. For his sake I hope he picks up his game for the debates. Palin's, Biden's and Obama's speeches while extremely light on substance where at least watchable. It was just painful to sit there and watch McCain, I actually felt kind of bad that he came off so poorly.

    I had no problem with his speech. I felt like he was talking to me and obama was talking at me. mccain came across as much more real. obama had the rockstar attitude in the big football stadium, very tacky IMO.
  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    spyguy wrote:
    mccain came across as much more real.

    Really. Very interesting. Like when he said "...and I will stop sending money to countries that don't like us very much." ?

    Or maybe when he said we will DRILL DRILL DRILL even though the benefits of drilling won't show up for about 30 years?

    Or maybe when he brought his wife up there and she said "hold me" but he didn't?

    Hilarious.
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    spyguy wrote:
    the Iraq war is going to almost become a non-issue IMO. the time table is already being written out.

    with Obama troops might be out a few months faster but thats it. troops are going to come home regardless of who is the next president and at a similar pace.


    It's a non-issue because the public has the attention span of a 3 yr old. Yes the troops will be home and that is beyond fantastic but there is still the issue of the billions of dollars spent on this war. The blatant fiscal raping of the American people by contractors over there that was basically ignored by the government needs to be addressed. The cover-ups and lies perpetrated by this administration needs to be addressed. The fact that Congress basically shit all over the Constitution by handing it powers over to the executive branch needs to addressed. There is still a lot that has to be discussed about this war but since both parties are basically chin deep in this shit these issues will just fade away.
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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    I'm talking about his persona. but anyway...


    YieldInHiding wrote:
    Really. Very interesting. Like when he said "...and I will stop sending money to countries that don't like us very much." ?

    something wrong with this statement?
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    Or maybe when he said we will DRILL DRILL DRILL even though the benefits of drilling won't show up for about 30 years?


    I really dont see the downside to drilling. that said, I dont see much upside either so its kinda a non-issue. and your 30 estimate is ridiculous.
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    Or maybe when he brought his wife up there and she said "hold me" but he didn't?

    :confused: um ok
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    spyguy wrote:
    I had no problem with his speech. I felt like he was talking to me and obama was talking at me. mccain came across as much more real. obama had the rockstar attitude in the big football stadium, very tacky IMO.


    I'm not saying that Obama's speech was mind blowing by any stretch but MCain came off stiff and just lacked energy. His style of speaking is just very rigid, his words didn't flow. the speech itself may have been more down to earth than Obama's but the delivery killed it. And maybe you felt like he was speaking to you is because through out the whole speech he never looked away from the camera.
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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    mammasan wrote:
    It's a non-issue because the public has the attention span of a 3 yr old. Yes the troops will be home and that is beyond fantastic but there is still the issue of the billions of dollars spent on this war. The blatant fiscal raping of the American people by contractors over there that was basically ignored by the government needs to be addressed. The cover-ups and lies perpetrated by this administration needs to be addressed. The fact that Congress basically shit all over the Constitution by handing it powers over to the executive branch needs to addressed. There is still a lot that has to be discussed about this war but since both parties are basically chin deep in this shit these issues will just fade away.

    such is life. I'm sure there will be inquiries galore as time goes on. in the meantime we have 2 choices for president and Iraq really wont play much of a role.
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    spyguy wrote:
    the Iraq war is going to almost become a non-issue IMO. the time table is already being written out.

    with Obama troops might be out a few months faster but thats it. troops are going to come home regardless of who is the next president and at a similar pace.

    I agree. Which is utterly ridiculous, but I agree. 4,000 American soldiers dead and the biggest foreign policy disaster in decades on the part of an American administration. And John McCain was one of its' biggest supporters. That alone in my mind should disqualify him from the office; he failed miserably at the most solemn duty a President has; as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, to not send soldiers into battle needlessly. But it's definetely going to be a"what's happened lately" scenario, and voters are going to forget that 4,000 soldiers aren't ever coming home. It boggles my mind, but there it is.

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