Obama Campaign Lies

U R A Crazy Breed

ledvedderman wrote:

Are you going to back up anything you say, or are you just going to keep putting your nose up the air at anything we try to debate with you

neither of you were trying to debate anything, all you did was tell me how wrong i am.

and i don't think i know more because of what candidate i support.mostly i was just trying to tell people Obama is a fraud and he won't make a good President.i had this same argument with Bush backers years ago.

left and right is a false paradigm.democrats & republicans are whores to the same corporate/banker masters and no matter who take the oval office the same policies are going to be put in place.

Obama voted in favor of the patriot act!!! what the fuck do you have to say about that??!! I'd love to know!!

U R A Crazy Breed

bryn_cmbs wrote:

Dude, you are as crazy as an out-house rat.

crazy like a fox maybe.

ah the narcoleptic telling me I'm asleep.

Collin

Crazy Breed wrote:

neither of you were trying to debate anything, all you did was tell me how wrong i am.

and i don't think i know more because of what candidate i support.mostly i was just trying to tell people Obama is a fraud and he won't make a good President.i had this same argument with Bush backers years ago.

left and right is a false paradigm.democrats & republicans are whores to the same corporate/banker masters and no matter who take the oval office the same policies are going to be put in place.

Obama voted in favor of the patriot act!!! what the fuck do you have to say about that??!! I'd love to know!!

http://www.stichtingbom.org/shirts/illusion_of_democracy.htm ?

ledvedderman

Barack Obama wrote:

But soon after the PATRIOT Act passed, a few years before I ever arrived in the Senate, I began hearing concerns from people of every background and political leaning that this law didn't just provide law enforcement the powers it needed to keep us safe, but powers it didn't need to invade our privacy without cause or suspicion.

Now, at times this issue has tended to degenerate into an "either-or" type of debate. Either we protect our people from terror or we protect our most cherished principles. But that is a false choice. It asks too little of us and assumes too little about America.

Fortunately, last year, the Senate recognized that this was a false choice. We put patriotism before partisanship and engaged in a real, open, and substantive debate about how to fix the PATRIOT Act. And Republicans and Democrats came together to propose sensible improvements to the Act. Unfortunately, the House was resistant to these changes, and that's why we're voting on the compromise before us.

Let me be clear: this compromise is not as good as the Senate version of the bill, nor is it as good as the SAFE Act that I have cosponsored. I suspect the vast majority of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle feel the same way. But, it's still better than what the House originally proposed.

This compromise does modestly improve the PATRIOT Act by strengthening civil liberties protections without sacrificing the tools that law enforcement needs to keep us safe. In this compromise:




We strengthened judicial review of both National Security Letters, the administrative subpoenas used by the FBI, and Section 215 orders, which can be used to obtain medical, financial and other personal records.


We established hard time limits on sneak-and-peak searches and limits on roving wiretaps.


We protected most libraries from being subject to National Security Letters.


We preserved an individual's right to seek counsel and hire an attorney without fearing the FBI's wrath.


And we allowed judicial review of the gag orders that accompany Section 215 searches.

The compromise is far from perfect. I would have liked to see stronger judicial review of National Security Letters and shorter time limits on sneak and peak searches, among other things.

If you read this, you'll see that the Patriot Act that Obama voted for was actually an improvement from the one the Republicans passed in 2001.

bryn_cmbs

Crazy Breed wrote:

crazy like a fox maybe.

ah the narcoleptic telling me I'm asleep.

I have read this entire thread and all you have done is spew BS without any facts or sources to back up your statements. You call those who support Obama “mindless sheep”. Tell me then, what would one call a person who blindly supports Ron Paul? Mindless Duckbilled Platypus?

ledvedderman

bryn_cmbs wrote:

I have read this entire thread and all you have done is spew BS without any facts or sources to back up your statements. You call those who support Obama “mindless sheep”. Tell me then, what would one call a person who blindly supports Ron Paul? Mindless Duckbilled Platypus?

...a Paultard?

bryn_cmbs

ledvedderman wrote:

...a Paultard?

or Rontard

mammasan

Crazy Breed wrote:

and i don't think i know more because of what candidate i support.mostly i was just trying to tell people Obama is a fraud and he won't make a good President.

The problem with this comment is that you have absolutely no proof that Obama will be a bad president or that he is a fraud. You are basing your assessment of him on the actions of previous Presidents and on the fact that you do not agree with his policies.

ledvedderman

bryn_cmbs wrote:

or Rontard

I think both can apply in this case.

As a disclaimer, "Paultard" is not for anyone that voted for Congressman Paul, but those that have the mindset like Crazy Breed where in their own opinion---they've got it all figured out.

mammasan

ledvedderman wrote:

I think both can apply in this case.

As a disclaimer, "Paultard" is not for anyone that voted for Congressman Paul, but those that have the mindset like Crazy Breed where in their own opinion---they've got it all figured out.

I would hope that you would not lump us all together.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

razzle dazzle....hocus pokus..

ledvedderman

mammasan wrote:

I would hope that you would not lump us all together.

I couldn't do that, there's actually a lot of what Ron Paul says that I agree with.

NOCODE#1

blackredyellow wrote:

Tell me about it....

Several of them I've never heard him say, and A LOT of the "rebuttals" were just outright false.

But I guess if it's on the internet and people e-mail it enough, some people will believe it.

exactly the "person" who started this thread is so misguided so utterly filled with a need to bring down a powerful black man its unreal.

NOCODE#1

Crazy Breed wrote:

the only real MAN was Ron Paul and America is too dumbed down and misinformed to vote for him.

oh you mean the delusional wacko that thinks America can function without taxes. The word "breed" and "crazy" is in your username!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that's all intelligent readers need to know.

What part of your original post was an intelligent response or topic?

NOCODE#1

Crazy Breed wrote:

really? what am i misrepresenting? explain.

if you think Obama is going to save this country then you are the ignorant one.

are you just one of the many sheep content to graze on lies?

Or are you in the crazy heard of sheep pissing into the wind or shouting at it actually.


Seriously man, its called a clue.

NOCODE#1

Crazy Breed wrote:

Brzezinski is a piece of trash!

Is this an example of an intelligent response?


You've won us all over now.

NOCODE#1

Crazy Breed wrote:

our system is broken, the vote has been compromised.your freedom follows close behind.

you reap what you sow so enjoy the fascism!

So post something about that. Start a lively debate on that. Why pick the black man or the foolish choice (Paul)?

LikeAnOcean

By "lie" number 8 or 9, I got really bored..

DopeBeastie

Crazy Breed wrote:

crazy like a fox maybe.

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you're fat and have an acne problem, don't you, aren't you?
you probably wear boots in the summertime to make you feel bigger and more tough, too.

combative, stupid pawn of the unenlightened

"hey... i'm crazy like a fox"... are you quoting andy rooney? go vote for mccain and get another gallon of mint chocolate chip

Commy

to bring 1 to light...

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

I don't support Obama but this is a very good idea. Its either through diplomacy or violence that FARC will communicate.