Are you going to back up anything you say, or are you just going to keep putting your nose up the air at anything we try to debate with you
neither of you were trying to debate anything, all you did was tell me how wrong i am.
and i don't think i know more because of what candidate i support.mostly i was just trying to tell people Obama is a fraud and he won't make a good President.i had this same argument with Bush backers years ago.
left and right is a false paradigm.democrats & republicans are whores to the same corporate/banker masters and no matter who take the oval office the same policies are going to be put in place.
Obama voted in favor of the patriot act!!! what the fuck do you have to say about that??!! I'd love to know!!
neither of you were trying to debate anything, all you did was tell me how wrong i am.
and i don't think i know more because of what candidate i support.mostly i was just trying to tell people Obama is a fraud and he won't make a good President.i had this same argument with Bush backers years ago.
left and right is a false paradigm.democrats & republicans are whores to the same corporate/banker masters and no matter who take the oval office the same policies are going to be put in place.
Obama voted in favor of the patriot act!!! what the fuck do you have to say about that??!! I'd love to know!!
But soon after the PATRIOT Act passed, a few years before I ever arrived in the Senate, I began hearing concerns from people of every background and political leaning that this law didn't just provide law enforcement the powers it needed to keep us safe, but powers it didn't need to invade our privacy without cause or suspicion.
Now, at times this issue has tended to degenerate into an "either-or" type of debate. Either we protect our people from terror or we protect our most cherished principles. But that is a false choice. It asks too little of us and assumes too little about America.
Fortunately, last year, the Senate recognized that this was a false choice. We put patriotism before partisanship and engaged in a real, open, and substantive debate about how to fix the PATRIOT Act. And Republicans and Democrats came together to propose sensible improvements to the Act. Unfortunately, the House was resistant to these changes, and that's why we're voting on the compromise before us.
Let me be clear: this compromise is not as good as the Senate version of the bill, nor is it as good as the SAFE Act that I have cosponsored. I suspect the vast majority of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle feel the same way. But, it's still better than what the House originally proposed.
This compromise does modestly improve the PATRIOT Act by strengthening civil liberties protections without sacrificing the tools that law enforcement needs to keep us safe. In this compromise:
We strengthened judicial review of both National Security Letters, the administrative subpoenas used by the FBI, and Section 215 orders, which can be used to obtain medical, financial and other personal records.
We established hard time limits on sneak-and-peak searches and limits on roving wiretaps.
We protected most libraries from being subject to National Security Letters.
We preserved an individual's right to seek counsel and hire an attorney without fearing the FBI's wrath.
And we allowed judicial review of the gag orders that accompany Section 215 searches.
The compromise is far from perfect. I would have liked to see stronger judicial review of National Security Letters and shorter time limits on sneak and peak searches, among other things.
If you read this, you'll see that the Patriot Act that Obama voted for was actually an improvement from the one the Republicans passed in 2001.
I have read this entire thread and all you have done is spew BS without any facts or sources to back up your statements. You call those who support Obama “mindless sheep”. Tell me then, what would one call a person who blindly supports Ron Paul? Mindless Duckbilled Platypus?
I have read this entire thread and all you have done is spew BS without any facts or sources to back up your statements. You call those who support Obama “mindless sheep”. Tell me then, what would one call a person who blindly supports Ron Paul? Mindless Duckbilled Platypus?
and i don't think i know more because of what candidate i support.mostly i was just trying to tell people Obama is a fraud and he won't make a good President.
The problem with this comment is that you have absolutely no proof that Obama will be a bad president or that he is a fraud. You are basing your assessment of him on the actions of previous Presidents and on the fact that you do not agree with his policies.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
As a disclaimer, "Paultard" is not for anyone that voted for Congressman Paul, but those that have the mindset like Crazy Breed where in their own opinion---they've got it all figured out.
As a disclaimer, "Paultard" is not for anyone that voted for Congressman Paul, but those that have the mindset like Crazy Breed where in their own opinion---they've got it all figured out.
I would hope that you would not lump us all together.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
the only real MAN was Ron Paul and America is too dumbed down and misinformed to vote for him.
oh you mean the delusional wacko that thinks America can function without taxes. The word "breed" and "crazy" is in your username!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that's all intelligent readers need to know.
What part of your original post was an intelligent response or topic?
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you probably wear boots in the summertime to make you feel bigger and more tough, too.
combative, stupid pawn of the unenlightened
"hey... i'm crazy like a fox"... are you quoting andy rooney? go vote for mccain and get another gallon of mint chocolate chip
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
I don't support Obama but this is a very good idea. Its either through diplomacy or violence that FARC will communicate.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
I don't support Obama but this is a very good idea. Its either through diplomacy or violence that FARC will communicate.
You are ignorant and misinformed if you think that's a good idea. Why? I'm not telling! :rolleyes:
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
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you're fat and have an acne problem, don't you, aren't you?
you probably wear boots in the summertime to make you feel bigger and more tough, too.
combative, stupid pawn of the unenlightened
"hey... i'm crazy like a fox"... are you quoting andy rooney? go vote for mccain and get another gallon of mint chocolate chip
funny shit! and i bet your a greasy face pedafile who frequents this web site in between sound proofing your basement and attending NAMBLA meetings you ignorant mindless drone.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
I don't support Obama but this is a very good idea. Its either through diplomacy or violence that FARC will communicate.
judging by your name you think communism is good too.
Tell me then, what would one call a person who blindly supports Ron Paul? Mindless Duckbilled Platypus?
i call them informed patriots that's what i call them.
see there is no mindless following of Ron Paul because only people who are capable of independent thought & care enough to seek the truth know Ron was the only REAL choice.
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you're fat and have an acne problem, don't you, aren't you?
you probably wear boots in the summertime to make you feel bigger and more tough, too.
combative, stupid pawn of the unenlightened
"hey... i'm crazy like a fox"... are you quoting andy rooney? go vote for mccain and get another gallon of mint chocolate chip
What a great way to discredit Crazy Breed's posts, name calling. What's next wedgies and Yo Mamma jokes.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
improved patriot act? obviously you never read the patriot act!
improved patriot act!
fascism lite?
and you claim your informed?
I'd laugh if i wasn't overwhelmed by sickness.
1) Did you read the post I posted about the "improved" Patriot Act. Let me give you a brief lesson in how we use the English language. The word "improved" is used to when something was total shit but is made a little bit better. You could say it, "improved" over what it was originally. Does that mean it is perfect? No. If that were the case, that's when we use the word "perfect". In this case, the Patriot Act was IMPROVED to protect more civil liberties that the original Patriot Act pissed all over. This would make it a "improved" version of the bill.
2) "and you claim your informed?"- My informed what? Obviously you are trying to point at something, but you didn't finish the thought. Did you mean "and you claim your informed opinion is far superior to that of mine?", because clearly you did not mean "and you claim you're informed"...
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neither of you were trying to debate anything, all you did was tell me how wrong i am.
and i don't think i know more because of what candidate i support.mostly i was just trying to tell people Obama is a fraud and he won't make a good President.i had this same argument with Bush backers years ago.
left and right is a false paradigm.democrats & republicans are whores to the same corporate/banker masters and no matter who take the oval office the same policies are going to be put in place.
Obama voted in favor of the patriot act!!! what the fuck do you have to say about that??!! I'd love to know!!
crazy like a fox maybe.
ah the narcoleptic telling me I'm asleep.
http://www.stichtingbom.org/shirts/illusion_of_democracy.htm ?
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If you read this, you'll see that the Patriot Act that Obama voted for was actually an improvement from the one the Republicans passed in 2001.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I have read this entire thread and all you have done is spew BS without any facts or sources to back up your statements. You call those who support Obama “mindless sheep”. Tell me then, what would one call a person who blindly supports Ron Paul? Mindless Duckbilled Platypus?
...a Paultard?
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
or Rontard
The problem with this comment is that you have absolutely no proof that Obama will be a bad president or that he is a fraud. You are basing your assessment of him on the actions of previous Presidents and on the fact that you do not agree with his policies.
I think both can apply in this case.
As a disclaimer, "Paultard" is not for anyone that voted for Congressman Paul, but those that have the mindset like Crazy Breed where in their own opinion---they've got it all figured out.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I would hope that you would not lump us all together.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I couldn't do that, there's actually a lot of what Ron Paul says that I agree with.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I think that's all intelligent readers need to know.
What part of your original post was an intelligent response or topic?
Seriously man, its called a clue.
You've won us all over now.
So post something about that. Start a lively debate on that. Why pick the black man or the foolish choice (Paul)?
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you're fat and have an acne problem, don't you, aren't you?
you probably wear boots in the summertime to make you feel bigger and more tough, too.
combative, stupid pawn of the unenlightened
"hey... i'm crazy like a fox"... are you quoting andy rooney? go vote for mccain and get another gallon of mint chocolate chip
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
I don't support Obama but this is a very good idea. Its either through diplomacy or violence that FARC will communicate.
You are ignorant and misinformed if you think that's a good idea. Why? I'm not telling! :rolleyes:
Good post.
pick on the black man? Obama is only 6.5% "black".he is mostly white & ARABIC
Ron Paul a foolish choice? you are seriously in the dark like most of the people around here.
funny shit! and i bet your a greasy face pedafile who frequents this web site in between sound proofing your basement and attending NAMBLA meetings you ignorant mindless drone.
improved patriot act? obviously you never read the patriot act!
improved patriot act!
fascism lite?
and you claim your informed?
I'd laugh if i wasn't overwhelmed by sickness.
judging by your name you think communism is good too.
i call them informed patriots that's what i call them.
see there is no mindless following of Ron Paul because only people who are capable of independent thought & care enough to seek the truth know Ron was the only REAL choice.
and then there are people like you.
What a great way to discredit Crazy Breed's posts, name calling. What's next wedgies and Yo Mamma jokes.
1) Did you read the post I posted about the "improved" Patriot Act. Let me give you a brief lesson in how we use the English language. The word "improved" is used to when something was total shit but is made a little bit better. You could say it, "improved" over what it was originally. Does that mean it is perfect? No. If that were the case, that's when we use the word "perfect". In this case, the Patriot Act was IMPROVED to protect more civil liberties that the original Patriot Act pissed all over. This would make it a "improved" version of the bill.
2) "and you claim your informed?"- My informed what? Obviously you are trying to point at something, but you didn't finish the thought. Did you mean "and you claim your informed opinion is far superior to that of mine?", because clearly you did not mean "and you claim you're informed"...
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm