It's A Convention Fight Now Obama

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    inmytree wrote:
    help me out...can you list some of Billary's positives...


    'cause I just don't see any...

    convince me, please...


    That's where I'm at... I accept the fact that Obama has some shortcomings, but I can't see one positive thing that Hilary brings to the table.

    And I don't hate her, I actually voted for her re-election as our senator in NY, but as a president, I can't do it.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    blackredyellow wrote:
    That's where I'm at... I accept the fact that Obama has some shortcomings, but I can't see one positive thing that Hilary brings to the table.

    And I don't hate her, I actually voted for her re-election as our senator in NY, but as a president, I can't do it.

    for me, I simply see her as a divisive figure....in fact, I can see her being disliked as much as bushy is disliked...

    perhaps Bloomberg may rethink running if she does get the nod...Mcbush is not a favorite of the right, and billary can divide the left...so who knows...
  • Hollyweird
    Hollyweird Posts: 197
    cubbieblue82 wrote:
    And you don't think the repubs will bring the negatives against her? She is one of the most polarizing political figures of our time. Old news or not, most people have forgotten about things like Whitewater. Sure, the democratic base loves her, but this election is about independents and moderates. I guarantee you that those people will flock to McCain over Hillary.

    On the other hand, Obama is a huge draw for independents and even some moderates, meaning he can compete with McCain for the swing voters.


    I agree with your first three sentences but there is just no basis for your opinion on what moderates and independents will do. The reality is that Obama and Clinton will both lose if the election is National Security. Further, how do you know how Obama will do against the GOP. They dont play. If Obama cant handle an occassional picture of him in a turban he sure as shit wont be able to handle the heat when his ties to Louis Farrakhan come out or to Jeremiah Wright. Read up my friend. Obama is toast against McCain. At least the Clintons know how to deal with Republican machine and their dirt is old news. Obama's is all fresh meat.
  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    Hollyweird wrote:
    he sure as shit wont be able to handle the heat when his ties to Louis Farrakhan come out or to Jeremiah Wright. Read up my friend.


    ummmm....both of those items are already out. Hell, he was even asked in a debate about both subjects.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Interesting stuff. So it's hers to loose then. Why is she only 4 up will all those positives? Obama will now go negative. Her negatives far outweigh his.

    The first poll in PA came out and with the Tex and Ohio bounce, Clinton is up 15 in PA. I think Obama will eat into it a bit, but she wins PA comfortably. It's probably the perfect state for her to have coming up next in terms of big states.
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  • blackredyellow
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    Hollyweird wrote:
    I agree with your first three sentences but there is just no basis for your opinion on what moderates and independents will do. The reality is that Obama and Clinton will both lose if the election is National Security. Further, how do you know how Obama will do against the GOP. They dont play. If Obama cant handle an occassional picture of him in a turban he sure as shit wont be able to handle the heat when his ties to Louis Farrakhan come out or to Jeremiah Wright. Read up my friend. Obama is toast against McCain. At least the Clintons know how to deal with Republican machine and their dirt is old news. Obama's is all fresh meat.

    You support a candidate who spent two weeks whining about being treated unfairly by the press, and you claim that Barack can't handle an occasional picture of him in a turban?
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    was like a picture
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    ― Abraham Lincoln

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