Hillary beats Obama in 3 out of 4 States today

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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Hollyweird wrote:
    First of all read my analysis above. I am right. She can win. Didn't say she will. As for beating McCain, if this is a national security election Obama is just as vulnerable as Clinton if not more because he is the one that is naive. Or is it naieve?

    You want to quibble about spelling and typographical error on a fucking internnet message board? Go right ahead. Good luck with that. Now, What i asked you, is just how the fuck is 3 and 10 point wins in states you were ahead by 20 points in just 2 weeks prior "defying the odds"? Explain that to me. She wont beat beat McCain in a general election with absolutely zero independant support and a republican party that is newly energized by her nomination. To think she could win in the general election is more than naive, its more than naieve, its flat out blind and stupid.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    Hollyweird wrote:
    Because as Florida goes so goes the general election. I am not aware they agreed not to seat the delegates. The candidates agreed not to campaign. The argument would be that you dont want to disenfranchise Florida voters who are so key to a Democratic win.

    Yes, they all (campaigns) agreed and signed paperwork stating that MI and FL delegates would NOT be seated due to those states bumping up their primary dates. Also, although I don't have a source, I had heard that Hillary's people were the ones that actually drew up the paperwork...of course this was when she was heavily favored to get the nomination last year.

    Does this change your opinion about those delegates?
    "Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    DixieN wrote:
    Why don't we wait and see?

    What fun would that be?
    And I'm not sure McCain is going up against Hillary.

    I'm not either. In fact, I highly doubt it, even after Texas and Ohio.
    I have no doubt in my mind that Americans don't want 100 more years in Iraq and everywhere else the warmongering McCain would take us, nor do they want what they got with Bush.

    There's going to be more war no matter who is elected. Hill and Obama aren't some magic hippie peace dispensers who will force Al Qaeda to love us by their sheer awesomeness.
    Your Mr. McCain shook hands with Bush today and then ran right out and took a shower to get the stench off him, so to speak. But, the stench isn't really going anywhere. We're diving into a recession, to make things worse for McCain. He's not winning squat.

    And yet, if the Dems are foolish enough to nominate hillary, McCain will wipe the floor with her. Every single Republican on earth will vote against her. And if she finagles the nomination by having Florida and Michigan seated, a whole shitload of Dems will vote against her too.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    slightofjeff wrote:
    What fun would that be?
    I'm not either. In fact, I highly doubt it, even after Texas and Ohio.
    There's going to be more war no matter who is elected. Hill and Obama aren't some magic hippie peace dispensers who will force Al Qaeda to love us by their sheer awesomeness.
    And yet, if the Dems are foolish enough to nominate hillary, McCain will wipe the floor with her. Every single Republican on earth will vote against her. And if she finagles the nomination by having Florida and Michigan seated, a whole shitload of Dems will vote against her too.

    Hillary WILL beat McWar

    Obama won't......

    face it
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Ebizzie wrote:
    Yes, they all (campaigns) agreed and signed paperwork stating that MI and FL delegates would NOT be seated due to those states bumping up their primary dates. Also, although I don't have a source, I had heard that Hillary's people were the ones that actually drew up the paperwork...of course this was when she was heavily favored to get the nomination last year.

    Does this change your opinion about those delegates?

    I would not put anything past the Clintons.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Im still here wrote:
    Hillary WILL beat McWar

    Obama won't......

    face it

    So the one who voted for the war will beat "McWar?" (ps -- can't you guys come up with something a little more clever than that? Like McCain't-Get-Us-Out-of-Iraq or something?)


    And the one who didn't, won't?

    I'd love to live in your bizarro world, where up is down, right is wrong and the Cubs have won the world series for 80 years running.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do

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