Why don't we wait and see? And I'm not sure McCain is going up against Hillary. I have no doubt in my mind that Americans don't want 100 more years in Iraq and everywhere else the warmongering McCain would take us, nor do they want what they got with Bush. Your Mr. McCain shook hands with Bush today and then ran right out and took a shower to get the stench off him, so to speak. But, the stench isn't really going anywhere. We're diving into a recession, to make things worse for McCain. He's not winning squat.
I see a lot of similarities in McCain and John Kerry in that it doesn't seem like the party is behind the candidate at all. The nomination process boiled down to "well McCain is better than the rest of them..". The evangelicals hate him... Whoever the democratic candidate turns out to be will have a huge turnout - and they're actually turning out the young vote (especially Obama). McCain is doomed.
I always thought Hillary would win these states. It's still not enough, though. She won't get Wyoming and she won't get Mississippi, and she can no longer rely on the superdelegates. I think Obama will get the nomination, but when Hillary does bow out, she'll have gained grudging respect from her adversaries, for staying in the race so tenaciously until the end and in spite of all forecasts of imminent doom.
Doing the math she sure can win. She leads in super delegates and is close in committed delegates. First, she of course will lose Mississippi but everyone knows that. Wyoming carries very few delegates. I don't Obama wins there will change the momentum.
The big remaining states are Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Pennsylvania has alot of delegates and based on Ohio she can is is projected to get a double digit win there. Polls on North Carolina have been back and forth. John Edwards could be a factor there.
However, consider this. If no one wins outright, if she wins Pennsylvania she could get a huge shift from super delegates away from Obama. Why? Clinton has a great argument at the convention that Obama's states are all typically red states, states the Dems will lose. The Dems cannot win the Deep South period so that does the party no good. She argues you cant win as a Democrat without California, New York, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Massachussets, etc, etc, etc. And you can't. Obama did not carry any of these places and in the general election it is winner take all. Obama is vulnerable in a few of those states to McCain. Namely California and New York. Further, if she can make an argument to at least count the Fla delegates Obama loses.
Obama will lose Florida if he is the nominee. McCain will clober him on his repeated promises to meet with all of these dictators. He also advocates lifting the trade ban. Not a single Cuban will vote for him and has lost alot of the Jewish vote. We all know what happens when the Dems lose Florida....
Hillary's campaign is inspiring. Every time she's gets written off, a lot of someones have had to eat their words. She does keep fighting however much some people wish she'd be a good girl and go home like she's "supposed" to. However, at this point, both candidates are a little desperate. Each wants to win, and neither can take the other out of contention. The truth is, people like them both. When Hillary's on the ropes, they come out in force. Those wins of hers weren't exactly paltry. Michigan and Florida governors are making big noises about getting their delegates seated. This probably will come to something. And who took those states by huge margins?
The two times she's "come back", she's done so using questionable means. In NH, she literally cried to get votes. Veryyyy presidential, eh? The second time, last night, wasn't a come back at all considering she picked up 4 delegates and didn't win either state as handily as she should have/needed to, but she pulled a negative campaign out to do the little bit of "damage" that she did.
You asked who took those states by large margins? Is this a joke? In MI, if you didn't know, the only other dem on the ballot was some dude named Uncommitted. She beat this dude by a measly 15 points. Yeah. Way to go, Hillary...that was quite a statement. And FL? You mean the state where no one campaigned? That should count? Are you serious?
You are aware that she signed off on FL and MI not counting, right? Of course, that's when she was heavily favored to get the nomination. So, exactly, why would her opinion change now? Is she putting her principles aside, again, to get her way?
Clinton. Inspiring. The only thing that cranky old woman inspires in me is disgust. How someone can look at the piece of shit campaign she's run and think she's a solid choice is beyond me. Do you remember just how heavily favored she was last year, before the primaries started? It would take a fucking idiot, ironically enough, to have been in her position last November and not walk away with the dem nomination in a landslide. Obama has run one hell of a campaign, but I think this falls more on Hillary's failure to put together a solid campaign.
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How did she defy the odds? A couple short weeks ago she was ahead in both Texas and ohio by about 20 points each. She won by 3 and 10! how is that defying the odds? Add to it the fact that after the caucus results are final, Obama likely walks away from Texas with more delegates than cunton, and your rhetoric here makes even less sense. Obama will likely win wyoming and most definitely take Mississippi by a significant margin. By a week from today, his delegate lead will be larger than it was yesterday.
By the way, if you seriously think she beats McCain, you are seriously naieve.
First of all read my analysis above. I am right. She can win. Didn't say she will. As for beating McCain, if this is a national security election Obama is just as vulnerable as Clinton if not more because he is the one that is naive. Or is it naieve?
Doing the math she sure can win. She leads in super delegates and is close in committed delegates. First, she of course will lose Mississippi but everyone knows that. Wyoming carries very few delegates. I don't Obama wins there will change the momentum.
The big remaining states are Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Pennsylvania has alot of delegates and based on Ohio she can is is projected to get a double digit win there. Polls on North Carolina have been back and forth. John Edwards could be a factor there.
However, consider this. If no one wins outright, if she wins Pennsylvania she could get a huge shift from super delegates away from Obama. Why? Clinton has a great argument at the convention that Obama's states are all typically red states, states the Dems will lose. The Dems cannot win the Deep South period so that does the party no good. She argues you cant win as a Democrat without California, New York, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Massachussets, etc, etc, etc. And you can't. Obama did not carry any of these places and in the general election it is winner take all. Obama is vulnerable in a few of those states to McCain. Namely California and New York. Further, if she can make an argument to at least count the Fla delegates Obama loses.
Over.
So you're whole premise of her winning is based on these superdelegates trumping the will of the public?
And why should FL count when they all agreed not to campaign there, agreed not to seat the delegates?
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So you're whole premise of her winning is based on these superdelegates trumping the will of the public?
And why should FL count when they all agreed not to campaign there, agreed not to seat the delegates?
The will of the public is still an open question. First, the will of the public is always disregarded. If so we wouldn't have an electoral college and we would be one man one vote. But were not. I am not going to profess to be an expert on super delegates but there is a very good chance this becomes a convention fight. Just do the math on the remaining delegates. True, edge to Obama right now but momentum just changed big time. If Clinton can get Pennsylvania big, carry the other Applachian states, which she can, and be very very close at the convention it becomes a fight over who can win the general election and that is where the Supers could move to Hillary. I am not of the view that Clinton automatically loses to McCain because they say so or the polls do. Its way too early for that and the reality is McCain IS a war candidate. He is Bush's proxy. Those are strong reasons for any Dem to beat him. Further, if she puts together a really good cabinet and makes the right VP choice I think she can beat McCain. But how can you argue to nominate a guy who lost California, New York, Ohio, Florida, Michigan in the primaries and by big margins? You cant win as a Dem without them? Period.......Just watch.
I dont know if it would count. If I were the Clintons I would leave the Michigan delegates alone and not fight there because Obama was not on the ballot. But, there is a very good policy argument that considering how important Florida is it would be destructive to alienate Democrats there, so count the delegates. Not saying it will work, but mark my words that will be the issue.
I dont know if it would count. If I were the Clintons I would leave the Michigan delegates alone and not fight there because Obama was not on the ballot. But, there is a very good policy argument that considering how important Florida is it would be destructive to alienate Democrats there, so count the delegates. Not saying it will work, but mark my words that will be the issue.
But how can you argue to nominate a guy who lost California, New York, Ohio, Florida, Michigan in the primaries and by big margins? You cant win as a Dem without them? Period.......Just watch.
First of all Obama didn't "lose" Florida or Michigan. Those states didn't count. He wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Secondly, he didn't lose California, New York or Ohio by "big margins". He came within about 10 percent in all 3 of them. And besides, those are democratic states anyway. He would win those overwhelmingly in the general election against john mccain.
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Inspiring? I disagree. I see how you could come to that conclusion and everything you said is true, but Hillary is just too .. well, evil for me to find inspiring.
She lies. Constantly. I don't know how many times her statement that "Obama's healthcare plan is not universal" has to be publically corrected by the man himself before she stops saying it. She claims to be fighting the healthcare industry but she's taken huge sums of money from them.
She will say anything to get votes. She's a carpetbagger. Her campaign is in large part a smear campaign against Obama.
That's not even getting into her vast and incredibly shady history...
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How is Obama's health care plan universal? It's so universal for anyone who WANTS it. That's not universal. You and me are picking up the emergency room tab on that one for all the people who play the ponies on needing health care. He's lying if he says his plan is universal. He can't correct her statement because her statement is true--his plan is not universal.
ANY politician will say whatever it takes to get votes, including Obama. He's been selling a load of hope you guys can't snap up fast enough. But hope is about as substantial as hot air. Hillary has made money off the industry, but so what? She's made money off a lot of things--and so has Obama. What she wants to do now is not something the health industry would love. In fact, I suspect they are among the worst of Hillary haters at the moment. In fact, I always want to ask these days when I meet a Hillary hater, "You don't happen to work for a health insurance company, do you?" Just on the off chance. Hillary has a vast history and not much of it is unknown. She has had some non-shining moments, but I'll bet Mr. Rezko has, too. And they might not reflect so well on a certain someone. Obama isn't some pristine choir boy or untried virgin on his wedding night like a lot of his supporters seem to want to believe. And you can sell yourselves that little hope because, voila! He hasn't done much of anything at all publicly. Barack is just as evil as Hillary. He lies, too. Apparently he tells people things like, "Listen to this one on NAFTA!" He's running neck and neck with her because he is pure walking evil. Wake up. He's a politician, not the Second Coming.
You know who'll clean up on the health care thing, right? It's not Hillary or Barack.
Doing the math she sure can win. She leads in super delegates and is close in committed delegates. First, she of course will lose Mississippi but everyone knows that. Wyoming carries very few delegates. I don't Obama wins there will change the momentum.
The big remaining states are Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Pennsylvania has alot of delegates and based on Ohio she can is is projected to get a double digit win there. Polls on North Carolina have been back and forth. John Edwards could be a factor there.
However, consider this. If no one wins outright, if she wins Pennsylvania she could get a huge shift from super delegates away from Obama. Why? Clinton has a great argument at the convention that Obama's states are all typically red states, states the Dems will lose. The Dems cannot win the Deep South period so that does the party no good. She argues you cant win as a Democrat without California, New York, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Massachussets, etc, etc, etc. And you can't. Obama did not carry any of these places and in the general election it is winner take all. Obama is vulnerable in a few of those states to McCain. Namely California and New York. Further, if she can make an argument to at least count the Fla delegates Obama loses.
Over.
Hillary will win Pennsylvania by a pretty sizable number. Governor Rendell has been a big supporter of Hillary since she announced and has been friends with the Clintons for a long time. Bill Clinton appointed Rendell's wife as a US Circuit Court Judge during his presidency. And Rendell has always been known to get the suburban vote out who have leaned towards Clinton in Ohio and texas.
And the mayor of Philadelphia has endorsed Clinton at the same time as Rendell. The new mayor is pretty popular and should be able to bring a lot of votes Hillary's way.
The mayor of Pittsburgh is uncommitted at this time and should commit in the next week or so. At first, I thought he would be a cinch to commit for Obama being that he's the youngest mayor of a big city in the county at age 28, but considering much of his constituency is made up of people who share the same values of Ohio, I think he may lean towards Clinton because Rendell helped him a lot last year in his election.
Plus the talk radio hosts in Philly are railing for Republicans to switch parties and vote for Hillary now that the Republican nom is locked up.
What she wants to do now is not something the health industry would love. In fact, I suspect they are among the worst of Hillary haters at the moment. In fact, I always want to ask these days when I meet a Hillary hater, "You don't happen to work for a health insurance company, do you?" Just on the off chance.
Why would insurance companies hate her plan? It would force everyone to get insurance, so they would get more money from premiums/subsidies. These companies won't loose money, they will just get pickier and pickier about what procedures they want to cover or how much they will contribute to them.
Neither of their health plans will hurt the health insurance industry. The only type of plan that would, would be a gov't single payer plan.
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So you're whole premise of her winning is based on these superdelegates trumping the will of the public?
And why should FL count when they all agreed not to campaign there, agreed not to seat the delegates?
Because as Florida goes so goes the general election. I am not aware they agreed not to seat the delegates. The candidates agreed not to campaign. The argument would be that you dont want to disenfranchise Florida voters who are so key to a Democratic win.
Because as Florida goes so goes the general election. I am not aware they agreed not to seat the delegates. The candidates agreed not to campaign. The argument would be that you dont want to disenfranchise Florida voters who are so key to a Democratic win.
I say waaaaa for those who feel disenfranchised...
for me in NC, this is the first time ever, that my primary vote may count...usually it's said and done by time it's my turn to vote....so Florida should suck it up and quit whining......
Just want to say that first off, I have no opinion either way but, it just seems hard to believe that America will put Hillary or Obama in the White House. I honestly believe that when it comes down to the actual voting, despite what people say, lots of people are gonna find it hard to vote for an African American or a female.
This is probably true being that there are a shitload of racist misinformed people in this country who also share ignorant views similar to the thread starter..
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First of all read my analysis above. I am right. She can win. Didn't say she will. As for beating McCain, if this is a national security election Obama is just as vulnerable as Clinton if not more because he is the one that is naive. Or is it naieve?
You want to quibble about spelling and typographical error on a fucking internnet message board? Go right ahead. Good luck with that. Now, What i asked you, is just how the fuck is 3 and 10 point wins in states you were ahead by 20 points in just 2 weeks prior "defying the odds"? Explain that to me. She wont beat beat McCain in a general election with absolutely zero independant support and a republican party that is newly energized by her nomination. To think she could win in the general election is more than naive, its more than naieve, its flat out blind and stupid.
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Because as Florida goes so goes the general election. I am not aware they agreed not to seat the delegates. The candidates agreed not to campaign. The argument would be that you dont want to disenfranchise Florida voters who are so key to a Democratic win.
Yes, they all (campaigns) agreed and signed paperwork stating that MI and FL delegates would NOT be seated due to those states bumping up their primary dates. Also, although I don't have a source, I had heard that Hillary's people were the ones that actually drew up the paperwork...of course this was when she was heavily favored to get the nomination last year.
Does this change your opinion about those delegates?
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And I'm not sure McCain is going up against Hillary.
I'm not either. In fact, I highly doubt it, even after Texas and Ohio.
I have no doubt in my mind that Americans don't want 100 more years in Iraq and everywhere else the warmongering McCain would take us, nor do they want what they got with Bush.
There's going to be more war no matter who is elected. Hill and Obama aren't some magic hippie peace dispensers who will force Al Qaeda to love us by their sheer awesomeness.
Your Mr. McCain shook hands with Bush today and then ran right out and took a shower to get the stench off him, so to speak. But, the stench isn't really going anywhere. We're diving into a recession, to make things worse for McCain. He's not winning squat.
And yet, if the Dems are foolish enough to nominate hillary, McCain will wipe the floor with her. Every single Republican on earth will vote against her. And if she finagles the nomination by having Florida and Michigan seated, a whole shitload of Dems will vote against her too.
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I'm not either. In fact, I highly doubt it, even after Texas and Ohio.
There's going to be more war no matter who is elected. Hill and Obama aren't some magic hippie peace dispensers who will force Al Qaeda to love us by their sheer awesomeness.
And yet, if the Dems are foolish enough to nominate hillary, McCain will wipe the floor with her. Every single Republican on earth will vote against her. And if she finagles the nomination by having Florida and Michigan seated, a whole shitload of Dems will vote against her too.
Yes, they all (campaigns) agreed and signed paperwork stating that MI and FL delegates would NOT be seated due to those states bumping up their primary dates. Also, although I don't have a source, I had heard that Hillary's people were the ones that actually drew up the paperwork...of course this was when she was heavily favored to get the nomination last year.
Does this change your opinion about those delegates?
So the one who voted for the war will beat "McWar?" (ps -- can't you guys come up with something a little more clever than that? Like McCain't-Get-Us-Out-of-Iraq or something?)
And the one who didn't, won't?
I'd love to live in your bizarro world, where up is down, right is wrong and the Cubs have won the world series for 80 years running.
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Doing the math she sure can win. She leads in super delegates and is close in committed delegates. First, she of course will lose Mississippi but everyone knows that. Wyoming carries very few delegates. I don't Obama wins there will change the momentum.
The big remaining states are Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Pennsylvania has alot of delegates and based on Ohio she can is is projected to get a double digit win there. Polls on North Carolina have been back and forth. John Edwards could be a factor there.
However, consider this. If no one wins outright, if she wins Pennsylvania she could get a huge shift from super delegates away from Obama. Why? Clinton has a great argument at the convention that Obama's states are all typically red states, states the Dems will lose. The Dems cannot win the Deep South period so that does the party no good. She argues you cant win as a Democrat without California, New York, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Massachussets, etc, etc, etc. And you can't. Obama did not carry any of these places and in the general election it is winner take all. Obama is vulnerable in a few of those states to McCain. Namely California and New York. Further, if she can make an argument to at least count the Fla delegates Obama loses.
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The two times she's "come back", she's done so using questionable means. In NH, she literally cried to get votes. Veryyyy presidential, eh? The second time, last night, wasn't a come back at all considering she picked up 4 delegates and didn't win either state as handily as she should have/needed to, but she pulled a negative campaign out to do the little bit of "damage" that she did.
You asked who took those states by large margins? Is this a joke? In MI, if you didn't know, the only other dem on the ballot was some dude named Uncommitted. She beat this dude by a measly 15 points. Yeah. Way to go, Hillary...that was quite a statement. And FL? You mean the state where no one campaigned? That should count? Are you serious?
You are aware that she signed off on FL and MI not counting, right? Of course, that's when she was heavily favored to get the nomination. So, exactly, why would her opinion change now? Is she putting her principles aside, again, to get her way?
Clinton. Inspiring. The only thing that cranky old woman inspires in me is disgust. How someone can look at the piece of shit campaign she's run and think she's a solid choice is beyond me. Do you remember just how heavily favored she was last year, before the primaries started? It would take a fucking idiot, ironically enough, to have been in her position last November and not walk away with the dem nomination in a landslide. Obama has run one hell of a campaign, but I think this falls more on Hillary's failure to put together a solid campaign.
First of all read my analysis above. I am right. She can win. Didn't say she will. As for beating McCain, if this is a national security election Obama is just as vulnerable as Clinton if not more because he is the one that is naive. Or is it naieve?
So you're whole premise of her winning is based on these superdelegates trumping the will of the public?
And why should FL count when they all agreed not to campaign there, agreed not to seat the delegates?
The will of the public is still an open question. First, the will of the public is always disregarded. If so we wouldn't have an electoral college and we would be one man one vote. But were not. I am not going to profess to be an expert on super delegates but there is a very good chance this becomes a convention fight. Just do the math on the remaining delegates. True, edge to Obama right now but momentum just changed big time. If Clinton can get Pennsylvania big, carry the other Applachian states, which she can, and be very very close at the convention it becomes a fight over who can win the general election and that is where the Supers could move to Hillary. I am not of the view that Clinton automatically loses to McCain because they say so or the polls do. Its way too early for that and the reality is McCain IS a war candidate. He is Bush's proxy. Those are strong reasons for any Dem to beat him. Further, if she puts together a really good cabinet and makes the right VP choice I think she can beat McCain. But how can you argue to nominate a guy who lost California, New York, Ohio, Florida, Michigan in the primaries and by big margins? You cant win as a Dem without them? Period.......Just watch.
First of all Obama didn't "lose" Florida or Michigan. Those states didn't count. He wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Secondly, he didn't lose California, New York or Ohio by "big margins". He came within about 10 percent in all 3 of them. And besides, those are democratic states anyway. He would win those overwhelmingly in the general election against john mccain.
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How is Obama's health care plan universal? It's so universal for anyone who WANTS it. That's not universal. You and me are picking up the emergency room tab on that one for all the people who play the ponies on needing health care. He's lying if he says his plan is universal. He can't correct her statement because her statement is true--his plan is not universal.
ANY politician will say whatever it takes to get votes, including Obama. He's been selling a load of hope you guys can't snap up fast enough. But hope is about as substantial as hot air. Hillary has made money off the industry, but so what? She's made money off a lot of things--and so has Obama. What she wants to do now is not something the health industry would love. In fact, I suspect they are among the worst of Hillary haters at the moment. In fact, I always want to ask these days when I meet a Hillary hater, "You don't happen to work for a health insurance company, do you?" Just on the off chance. Hillary has a vast history and not much of it is unknown. She has had some non-shining moments, but I'll bet Mr. Rezko has, too. And they might not reflect so well on a certain someone. Obama isn't some pristine choir boy or untried virgin on his wedding night like a lot of his supporters seem to want to believe. And you can sell yourselves that little hope because, voila! He hasn't done much of anything at all publicly. Barack is just as evil as Hillary. He lies, too. Apparently he tells people things like, "Listen to this one on NAFTA!" He's running neck and neck with her because he is pure walking evil. Wake up. He's a politician, not the Second Coming.
You know who'll clean up on the health care thing, right? It's not Hillary or Barack.
Hillary will win Pennsylvania by a pretty sizable number. Governor Rendell has been a big supporter of Hillary since she announced and has been friends with the Clintons for a long time. Bill Clinton appointed Rendell's wife as a US Circuit Court Judge during his presidency. And Rendell has always been known to get the suburban vote out who have leaned towards Clinton in Ohio and texas.
And the mayor of Philadelphia has endorsed Clinton at the same time as Rendell. The new mayor is pretty popular and should be able to bring a lot of votes Hillary's way.
The mayor of Pittsburgh is uncommitted at this time and should commit in the next week or so. At first, I thought he would be a cinch to commit for Obama being that he's the youngest mayor of a big city in the county at age 28, but considering much of his constituency is made up of people who share the same values of Ohio, I think he may lean towards Clinton because Rendell helped him a lot last year in his election.
Plus the talk radio hosts in Philly are railing for Republicans to switch parties and vote for Hillary now that the Republican nom is locked up.
I think Hillary makes up some ground in PA.
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Why would insurance companies hate her plan? It would force everyone to get insurance, so they would get more money from premiums/subsidies. These companies won't loose money, they will just get pickier and pickier about what procedures they want to cover or how much they will contribute to them.
Neither of their health plans will hurt the health insurance industry. The only type of plan that would, would be a gov't single payer plan.
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Because as Florida goes so goes the general election. I am not aware they agreed not to seat the delegates. The candidates agreed not to campaign. The argument would be that you dont want to disenfranchise Florida voters who are so key to a Democratic win.
I say waaaaa for those who feel disenfranchised...
for me in NC, this is the first time ever, that my primary vote may count...usually it's said and done by time it's my turn to vote....so Florida should suck it up and quit whining......
This is probably true being that there are a shitload of racist misinformed people in this country who also share ignorant views similar to the thread starter..
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and I'll overdo it'
You want to quibble about spelling and typographical error on a fucking internnet message board? Go right ahead. Good luck with that. Now, What i asked you, is just how the fuck is 3 and 10 point wins in states you were ahead by 20 points in just 2 weeks prior "defying the odds"? Explain that to me. She wont beat beat McCain in a general election with absolutely zero independant support and a republican party that is newly energized by her nomination. To think she could win in the general election is more than naive, its more than naieve, its flat out blind and stupid.
Yes, they all (campaigns) agreed and signed paperwork stating that MI and FL delegates would NOT be seated due to those states bumping up their primary dates. Also, although I don't have a source, I had heard that Hillary's people were the ones that actually drew up the paperwork...of course this was when she was heavily favored to get the nomination last year.
Does this change your opinion about those delegates?
What fun would that be?
I'm not either. In fact, I highly doubt it, even after Texas and Ohio.
There's going to be more war no matter who is elected. Hill and Obama aren't some magic hippie peace dispensers who will force Al Qaeda to love us by their sheer awesomeness.
And yet, if the Dems are foolish enough to nominate hillary, McCain will wipe the floor with her. Every single Republican on earth will vote against her. And if she finagles the nomination by having Florida and Michigan seated, a whole shitload of Dems will vote against her too.
for the least they could possibly do
Hillary WILL beat McWar
Obama won't......
face it
PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
I would not put anything past the Clintons.
So the one who voted for the war will beat "McWar?" (ps -- can't you guys come up with something a little more clever than that? Like McCain't-Get-Us-Out-of-Iraq or something?)
And the one who didn't, won't?
I'd love to live in your bizarro world, where up is down, right is wrong and the Cubs have won the world series for 80 years running.
for the least they could possibly do