Yeah, Obama loses three states that he was down 20 points to a couple of weeks ago. Big deal. The fact that he made a race out of Texas, which should have easily been Clinton's, shows that this thing is far from over.
(neck and neck, and no I don't mean Chicken Neck either Obama)
i knew it...
you're a racist...
i knew you were not the sharpest knife in the drawer when i saw you rant on about "ferricon" for 3 days like a fool... and i assumed from your undertones that you were a racist idiot... and now i know for sure...
Hillary is going all the way with this! she has outright WON Texas and most importantly, OHIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please to be defining your use of the word "outright".
3% more of the votes does not mean "outright". To me that is squeeking by.
Early results of the caucus in Texas has him ahead by 5%. I believe there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 delegates to be divvied-up after the caucus results are tabulated.
If anything, I'd say its pretty much going to be a "draw".
Yes, I am an Obama supporter. But I am not anti-Hillary either.
The system screwed Ron Paul.
Now it's about to fuck Obama in the face.
lol...f-cking hilarious...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
When all else fails, blame the system---not the fact that < 10% of the voters showed up to support your guy. Just because I'm curious and would like to see Dr. Paul stay in Congress, how did he do last night?
When all else fails, blame the system---not the fact that < 10% of the voters showed up to support your guy. Just because I'm curious and would like to see Dr. Paul stay in Congress, how did he do last night?
I don't blame the system I blame the invisibles behind the system. The guys with all the money nobody knows about.
If Obama is in fact Ron Paul lite (except for the copious spending part), then you can practically bet Hillary or McCain is going to face mount Obama at some point...the media will screw and convert people minds and fudge the numbers if necessary. Diebold is actually looking at being bought out by United Technologies right now prior to the 08 election....nice eh?
In any event the electoral system is, by and large, corrupt how can it not be blamed to a certain degree as well?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
When all else fails, blame the system---not the fact that < 10% of the voters showed up to support your guy. Just because I'm curious and would like to see Dr. Paul stay in Congress, how did he do last night?
You mean for a guy that has had ZERO press in two months?
HE got a huge 10% of the vote roughly, all though i have stopped following it, admittedly.
He also came in second in 3 or 4 states, and the reality was he WON Washinton and Louisiana and there was outright fraud in one and blanket media denial in the other to deprive him of even those victories.
If you really think there wasn't some fucked up manipulation to keep Ron Paul out of the sphere of influence you are delusional.
When you have one debate that is 1 hour long with 5 candidates and Ron Paul gets 7 minutes to speak, and then the next debate is an hour and a half long with only 4 candidates and he gets even LESS time ... i don't see how you can argue that there isn't fucking manipulation.
Please.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You mean for a guy that has had ZERO press in two months?
HE got a huge 10% of the vote roughly, all though i have stopped following it, admittedly.
He also came in second in 3 or 4 states, and the reality was he WON Washinton and Louisiana and there was outright fraud in one and blanket media denial in the other to deprive him of even those victories.
If you really think there wasn't some fucked up manipulation to keep Ron Paul out of the sphere of influence you are delusional.
When you have one debate that is 1 hour long with 5 candidates and Ron Paul gets 7 minutes to speak, and then the next debate is an hour and a half long with only 4 candidates and he gets even LESS time ... i don't see how you can argue that there isn't fucking manipulation.
Please.
I really do think that there was no vast conspiracy to hold Ron Paul down. Why? He didn't stand a chance. Not because of the media, but because he is not going to win the Republican nomination with the stances that he has. He would have had much better luck running as a Libertarian in the general, but he didn't want to lose his primary in his congressional district.
Hillary technically won 3/4 states but Obama won so many delegates that his lead hasn't really diminished at all. Texas was split almost right down the middle.
Hillary is starting to fight... well.. like a Clinton. Dirty, filthy, aggressive politics. Last minute commercials slamming Obama, and so on. Obama has so far abstained from those kind of politics (for the most part) and his refusal to lower himself to Clinton's level could pay off. Chances are that we'll see him getting dirty as well, sadly, because his refusal to play dirty could easily backfire.
Don't forget the winning streak Obama just went on..
The media's representation of who is actually the favor in this race shifts back and forth based on who won the last bought. They blow any victory or loss way out of proportion - for Clinton as well as Obama.
If you want too look at numbers rather than media hype and reactionary, biased news reports Obama is at an advantage.
Hillary technically won 3/4 states but Obama won so many delegates that his lead hasn't really diminished at all. Texas was split almost right down the middle.
Hillary is starting to fight... well.. like a Clinton. Dirty, filthy, aggressive politics. Last minute commercials slamming Obama, and so on. Obama has so far abstained from those kind of politics (for the most part) and his refusal to lower himself to Clinton's level could pay off. Chances are that we'll see him getting dirty as well, sadly, because his refusal to play dirty could easily backfire.
Don't forget the winning streak Obama just went on..
The media's representation of who is actually the favor in this race shifts back and forth based on who won the last bought. They blow any victory or loss way out of proportion - for Clinton as well as Obama.
If you want too look at numbers rather than media hype and reactionary, biased news reports Obama is at an advantage.
They should put on a god damn news channel. Because that's most understandable thing I've seen all week.
Hillary technically won 3/4 states but Obama won so many delegates that his lead hasn't really diminished at all. Texas was split almost right down the middle.
Hillary is starting to fight... well.. like a Clinton. Dirty, filthy, aggressive politics. Last minute commercials slamming Obama, and so on. Obama has so far abstained from those kind of politics (for the most part) and his refusal to lower himself to Clinton's level could pay off. Chances are that we'll see him getting dirty as well, sadly, because his refusal to play dirty could easily backfire.
Don't forget the winning streak Obama just went on..
The media's representation of who is actually the favor in this race shifts back and forth based on who won the last bought. They blow any victory or loss way out of proportion - for Clinton as well as Obama.
If you want too look at numbers rather than media hype and reactionary, biased news reports Obama is at an advantage.
I hope Obama continues to raise the tax return issue. The Clintons currently have litigation against them regarding campaign financing... put the Clintons away for good once and for all. The Rezco scam has nothing on the Clintons financial history...
Obama has been the statesmen this whole time. Time for a body blow or two to curb her momentum.
"As far as I know he's a Christian" - Fucking bitch...
Hillary technically won 3/4 states but Obama won so many delegates that his lead hasn't really diminished at all. Texas was split almost right down the middle.
Hillary is starting to fight... well.. like a Clinton. Dirty, filthy, aggressive politics. Last minute commercials slamming Obama, and so on. Obama has so far abstained from those kind of politics (for the most part) and his refusal to lower himself to Clinton's level could pay off. Chances are that we'll see him getting dirty as well, sadly, because his refusal to play dirty could easily backfire.
Don't forget the winning streak Obama just went on..
The media's representation of who is actually the favor in this race shifts back and forth based on who won the last bought. They blow any victory or loss way out of proportion - for Clinton as well as Obama.
If you want too look at numbers rather than media hype and reactionary, biased news reports Obama is at an advantage.
Yeah, Clinton actually "gained" only 4 delegates on Obama last night.
Big win!!! Hahahaha!
The media loves that shit though "Ooooooooh, Clinton is coming back!"
Yeah, Clinton actually "gained" only 4 delegates on Obama last night.
Big win!!! Hahahaha!
The media loves that shit though "Ooooooooh, Clinton is coming back!"
HA!
you must read the same thing I do.
from the Obama camp:
"Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday's elections will be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183.
That's a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the states that voted.
For comparison, that's less than half our net gain of 9 delegates from the District of Columbia alone. It's also less than our net gain of 8 from Nebraska, or 12 from Washington State. And it's considerably less than our net gain of 33 delegates from Georgia."
Thank god there are a few sheep not willing to be led to the Obama slaughter.
And enough of this she can't beat McCain crap. She just defied the odds today and there is little chance he can win the nomination outright. Id love to be a fly on the wall when Teddy Kennedy runs into Bill Clinton at the convention. "Er..Mr. President....about that endorsement thing......"
How did she defy the odds? A couple short weeks ago she was ahead in both Texas and ohio by about 20 points each. She won by 3 and 10! how is that defying the odds? Add to it the fact that after the caucus results are final, Obama likely walks away from Texas with more delegates than cunton, and your rhetoric here makes even less sense. Obama will likely win wyoming and most definitely take Mississippi by a significant margin. By a week from today, his delegate lead will be larger than it was yesterday.
By the way, if you seriously think she beats McCain, you are seriously naieve.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Obama is still around a hundred pledged delegates ahead of Clinton.
plus the superdelegates are free to change their minds right up until they vote at the convention. I don't see a great majority swinging over to Clinton if Obama is ahead in the pledge delegate count. they have to keep a keen eye on how that might effect their own re-election chances the next time they face re-election
For a bunch of folks who I always thought to have a reasonable understanding of the political process, this thread is rather disturbing.
Hillary is still losing...badly. If she stays in this it's for one reason, to literally steal the nomination. She can't steal it if she drops out so she'll keep "fighting".
BTW, Obama's camp said today that the gloves are about to come off. Hillary, of all people, should not have started a negative campaign. She's got so much PUBLIC dirt, PUBLIC information against her, she's just idiotic and desperate at this point to want to turn this campaign in that direction.
"Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
Hillary is still losing...badly. If she stays in this it's for one reason, to literally steal the nomination. She can't steal it if she drops out so she'll keep "fighting".
This is exactly right. The thing is, the longer these Hill and Obama beat on each other, the better it is for McCain. They're doing his work for him.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
For a bunch of folks who I always thought to have a reasonable understanding of the political process, this thread is rather disturbing.
Hillary is still losing...badly. If she stays in this it's for one reason, to literally steal the nomination. She can't steal it if she drops out so she'll keep "fighting".
BTW, Obama's camp said today that the gloves are about to come off. Hillary, of all people, should not have started a negative campaign. She's got so much PUBLIC dirt, PUBLIC information against her, she's just idiotic and desperate at this point to want to turn this campaign in that direction.
Hillary's campaign is inspiring. Every time she's gets written off, a lot of someones have had to eat their words. She does keep fighting however much some people wish she'd be a good girl and go home like she's "supposed" to. However, at this point, both candidates are a little desperate. Each wants to win, and neither can take the other out of contention. The truth is, people like them both. When Hillary's on the ropes, they come out in force. Those wins of hers weren't exactly paltry. Michigan and Florida governors are making big noises about getting their delegates seated. This probably will come to something. And who took those states by huge margins? Me, I do see a combined ticket in some form down the road. Do I care if Obama is at the top or Hillary? Not really. And I think a lot of people feel like I do. More people like them both than just hate Hillary. Hillary's "dirt" is out there and has been out there. She's done things. Mr. Obama has less dirt because he's simply done fewer things. Dirtwise, Hillary's well set. There is nothing he critics haven't found. In case you haven't noticed, the Republicans have been shoveling it for 16 years. Mr. Obama's campaign has nothing startling so far. Neither of the campaigns do...on one side because it's all been dished out and on the other side because how much can there be on someone who got into the fray in 1997?
This is exactly right. The thing is, the longer these Hill and Obama beat on each other, the better it is for McCain. They're doing his work for him.
Well, I don't think that this can be denied. So, I hope they save some of their invective to fight the real opponent. Clinton is a woman, but I've read that Obama is actually the first female candidate to seriously run for president. Yes, I know. It's funny what people will say.
I guess I'm just hoping, that this being the case their fight to the WH doesn't turn into a hair-pulling cat fight that makes the Republicans tremble with joy. As much fun as hair-pulling cat fights are to watch.
Hillary's campaign is inspiring. Every time she's gets written off, a lot of someones have had to eat their words. She does keep fighting however much some people wish she'd be a good girl and go home like she's "supposed" to. However, at this point, both candidates are a little desperate. Each wants to win, and neither can take the other out of contention. The truth is, people like them both. When Hillary's on the ropes, they come out in force. Those wins of hers weren't exactly paltry. Michigan and Florida governors are making big noises about getting their delegates seated. This probably will come to something. And who took those states by huge margins? Me, I do see a combined ticket in some form down the road. Do I care if Obama is at the top or Hillary? Not really. And I think a lot of people feel like I do. More people like them both than just hate Hillary. Hillary's "dirt" is out there and has been out there. She's done things. Mr. Obama has less dirt because he's simply done fewer things. Dirtwise, Hillary's well set. There is nothing he critics haven't found. In case you haven't noticed, the Republicans have been shoveling it for 16 years. Mr. Obama's campaign has nothing startling so far. Neither of the campaigns do...on one side because it's all been dished out and on the other side because how much can there be on someone who got into the fray in 1997?
Inspiring? I disagree. I see how you could come to that conclusion and everything you said is true, but Hillary is just too .. well, evil for me to find inspiring.
She lies. Constantly. I don't know how many times her statement that "Obama's healthcare plan is not universal" has to be publically corrected by the man himself before she stops saying it. She claims to be fighting the healthcare industry but she's taken huge sums of money from them.
She will say anything to get votes. She's a carpetbagger. Her campaign is in large part a smear campaign against Obama.
That's not even getting into her vast and incredibly shady history...
Just want to say that first off, I have no opinion either way but, it just seems hard to believe that America will put Hillary or Obama in the White House. I honestly believe that when it comes down to the actual voting, despite what people say, lots of people are gonna find it hard to vote for an African American or a female.
well, that's not gonna be the ticket, so the point is moot.
But McCain will kick Hillary's ass.
Why don't we wait and see? And I'm not sure McCain is going up against Hillary. I have no doubt in my mind that Americans don't want 100 more years in Iraq and everywhere else the warmongering McCain would take us, nor do they want what they got with Bush. Your Mr. McCain shook hands with Bush today and then ran right out and took a shower to get the stench off him, so to speak. But, the stench isn't really going anywhere. We're diving into a recession, to make things worse for McCain. He's not winning squat.
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i knew it...
you're a racist...
i knew you were not the sharpest knife in the drawer when i saw you rant on about "ferricon" for 3 days like a fool... and i assumed from your undertones that you were a racist idiot... and now i know for sure...
good luck with that
Please to be defining your use of the word "outright".
3% more of the votes does not mean "outright". To me that is squeeking by.
Early results of the caucus in Texas has him ahead by 5%. I believe there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 delegates to be divvied-up after the caucus results are tabulated.
If anything, I'd say its pretty much going to be a "draw".
Yes, I am an Obama supporter. But I am not anti-Hillary either.
Ohio was a big win for Hillary, no doubt.
lol...f-cking hilarious...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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When all else fails, blame the system---not the fact that < 10% of the voters showed up to support your guy. Just because I'm curious and would like to see Dr. Paul stay in Congress, how did he do last night?
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I don't blame the system I blame the invisibles behind the system. The guys with all the money nobody knows about.
If Obama is in fact Ron Paul lite (except for the copious spending part), then you can practically bet Hillary or McCain is going to face mount Obama at some point...the media will screw and convert people minds and fudge the numbers if necessary. Diebold is actually looking at being bought out by United Technologies right now prior to the 08 election....nice eh?
In any event the electoral system is, by and large, corrupt how can it not be blamed to a certain degree as well?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
You mean for a guy that has had ZERO press in two months?
HE got a huge 10% of the vote roughly, all though i have stopped following it, admittedly.
He also came in second in 3 or 4 states, and the reality was he WON Washinton and Louisiana and there was outright fraud in one and blanket media denial in the other to deprive him of even those victories.
If you really think there wasn't some fucked up manipulation to keep Ron Paul out of the sphere of influence you are delusional.
When you have one debate that is 1 hour long with 5 candidates and Ron Paul gets 7 minutes to speak, and then the next debate is an hour and a half long with only 4 candidates and he gets even LESS time ... i don't see how you can argue that there isn't fucking manipulation.
Please.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
your name precedes you...thoroughly.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I really do think that there was no vast conspiracy to hold Ron Paul down. Why? He didn't stand a chance. Not because of the media, but because he is not going to win the Republican nomination with the stances that he has. He would have had much better luck running as a Libertarian in the general, but he didn't want to lose his primary in his congressional district.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Hillary technically won 3/4 states but Obama won so many delegates that his lead hasn't really diminished at all. Texas was split almost right down the middle.
Hillary is starting to fight... well.. like a Clinton. Dirty, filthy, aggressive politics. Last minute commercials slamming Obama, and so on. Obama has so far abstained from those kind of politics (for the most part) and his refusal to lower himself to Clinton's level could pay off. Chances are that we'll see him getting dirty as well, sadly, because his refusal to play dirty could easily backfire.
Don't forget the winning streak Obama just went on..
The media's representation of who is actually the favor in this race shifts back and forth based on who won the last bought. They blow any victory or loss way out of proportion - for Clinton as well as Obama.
If you want too look at numbers rather than media hype and reactionary, biased news reports Obama is at an advantage.
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
They should put on a god damn news channel. Because that's most understandable thing I've seen all week.
I hope Obama continues to raise the tax return issue. The Clintons currently have litigation against them regarding campaign financing... put the Clintons away for good once and for all. The Rezco scam has nothing on the Clintons financial history...
Obama has been the statesmen this whole time. Time for a body blow or two to curb her momentum.
"As far as I know he's a Christian" - Fucking bitch...
substance.. what would that have to do with a US presidential election?
No offense. But you're nuts. Republicans are VOTING FOR HILLARY in the primary, because they know McCain will kill her.
for the least they could possibly do
Yeah, Clinton actually "gained" only 4 delegates on Obama last night.
Big win!!! Hahahaha!
The media loves that shit though "Ooooooooh, Clinton is coming back!"
HA!
you must read the same thing I do.
from the Obama camp:
"Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday's elections will be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183.
That's a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the states that voted.
For comparison, that's less than half our net gain of 9 delegates from the District of Columbia alone. It's also less than our net gain of 8 from Nebraska, or 12 from Washington State. And it's considerably less than our net gain of 33 delegates from Georgia."
How did she defy the odds? A couple short weeks ago she was ahead in both Texas and ohio by about 20 points each. She won by 3 and 10! how is that defying the odds? Add to it the fact that after the caucus results are final, Obama likely walks away from Texas with more delegates than cunton, and your rhetoric here makes even less sense. Obama will likely win wyoming and most definitely take Mississippi by a significant margin. By a week from today, his delegate lead will be larger than it was yesterday.
By the way, if you seriously think she beats McCain, you are seriously naieve.
plus the superdelegates are free to change their minds right up until they vote at the convention. I don't see a great majority swinging over to Clinton if Obama is ahead in the pledge delegate count. they have to keep a keen eye on how that might effect their own re-election chances the next time they face re-election
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Hillary is still losing...badly. If she stays in this it's for one reason, to literally steal the nomination. She can't steal it if she drops out so she'll keep "fighting".
BTW, Obama's camp said today that the gloves are about to come off. Hillary, of all people, should not have started a negative campaign. She's got so much PUBLIC dirt, PUBLIC information against her, she's just idiotic and desperate at this point to want to turn this campaign in that direction.
Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama WILL beat McCain. The question is only just how embarrassed Mr. McCain is gonna be.
This is exactly right. The thing is, the longer these Hill and Obama beat on each other, the better it is for McCain. They're doing his work for him.
for the least they could possibly do
Most independent sources say she picked up 12. So there! She's cruising to victory now! Har!
for the least they could possibly do
Hillary's campaign is inspiring. Every time she's gets written off, a lot of someones have had to eat their words. She does keep fighting however much some people wish she'd be a good girl and go home like she's "supposed" to. However, at this point, both candidates are a little desperate. Each wants to win, and neither can take the other out of contention. The truth is, people like them both. When Hillary's on the ropes, they come out in force. Those wins of hers weren't exactly paltry. Michigan and Florida governors are making big noises about getting their delegates seated. This probably will come to something. And who took those states by huge margins? Me, I do see a combined ticket in some form down the road. Do I care if Obama is at the top or Hillary? Not really. And I think a lot of people feel like I do. More people like them both than just hate Hillary. Hillary's "dirt" is out there and has been out there. She's done things. Mr. Obama has less dirt because he's simply done fewer things. Dirtwise, Hillary's well set. There is nothing he critics haven't found. In case you haven't noticed, the Republicans have been shoveling it for 16 years. Mr. Obama's campaign has nothing startling so far. Neither of the campaigns do...on one side because it's all been dished out and on the other side because how much can there be on someone who got into the fray in 1997?
well, that's not gonna be the ticket, so the point is moot.
But McCain will kick Hillary's ass.
for the least they could possibly do
Well, I don't think that this can be denied. So, I hope they save some of their invective to fight the real opponent. Clinton is a woman, but I've read that Obama is actually the first female candidate to seriously run for president. Yes, I know. It's funny what people will say.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/115397
I guess I'm just hoping, that this being the case their fight to the WH doesn't turn into a hair-pulling cat fight that makes the Republicans tremble with joy. As much fun as hair-pulling cat fights are to watch.
She lies. Constantly. I don't know how many times her statement that "Obama's healthcare plan is not universal" has to be publically corrected by the man himself before she stops saying it. She claims to be fighting the healthcare industry but she's taken huge sums of money from them.
She will say anything to get votes. She's a carpetbagger. Her campaign is in large part a smear campaign against Obama.
That's not even getting into her vast and incredibly shady history...
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
Why don't we wait and see? And I'm not sure McCain is going up against Hillary. I have no doubt in my mind that Americans don't want 100 more years in Iraq and everywhere else the warmongering McCain would take us, nor do they want what they got with Bush. Your Mr. McCain shook hands with Bush today and then ran right out and took a shower to get the stench off him, so to speak. But, the stench isn't really going anywhere. We're diving into a recession, to make things worse for McCain. He's not winning squat.