Showdown with Iran

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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    NMyTree wrote:
    Well, if you weren't the political equivalent of a manic depressive; you' d realize our politicians/leaders lie all the time, not just to us, but to everyone. They cheat and steal ......just as often as anyone else on this planet.

    And for the record, the US of A has often encouraged...supported...and financed plenty of terrorist groups and activities; through out it's history and in the current times. In fact, our government and military have been terrorists, themselves; a hundred times over.

    The United States Of America is not always on the right or moral side of a fight. The USA has been so very wrong and devious about a lot of things.


    i know that
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    same to you, get the fuck out of america...

    I was waiting for this response. The old if you don't love it leave it defense.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    810wmb wrote:
    same to you, get the fuck out of america...

    Funny, because the most unamerican person in this discussion....is you.
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    mammasan wrote:
    I was waiting for this response. The old if you don't love it leave it defense.

    same old crap from him too, don't forget
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    NMyTree wrote:
    Funny, because the most unamerican person in this discussion....is you.

    how so?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    mammasan wrote:
    I was waiting for this response. The old if you don't love it leave it defense.

    Well, that was highly predictable. We all knew he would go grasp for that straw.

    Mindlessly equating criticism of one's country and the desire and passion to see one's country practice the integrity, freedom and democracy they so often preach; as the same as a loudmouth warmonger preaching destruction and murder; while hiding safely behind their mommies apron.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    810wmb wrote:
    i know that

    it doesn't show.
  • I'll be so glad when this ultra conservative, self righteous, bible thumping "let us tell you how to run world and live your lives" bullshit is over.

    Imposing the will of Jesus (or whatever satanic demon) from the end of a gun barrel.

    Freaks... get a grip
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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    ( o.O)
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    same old crap from him too, don't forget

    Why is that everytime someone points out the ills of this country they are considered unpatriotic or it is suggested that they leave. A true patriot questions the actions and motives of his country if he/she deems them wrong or unhustified. It is because we love this country that we criticize and question our governments actions. To simply close our eyes to it or defend it simply because our country is undertaking these actions is called nationalism and look how well that worked out for Germany during the 1930's and 40's.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    I'll be so glad when this ultra conservative, self righteous, bible thumping "let us tell you how to run world and live your lives" bullshit is over.

    Imposing the will of Jesus (or whatever satanic demon) from the end of a gun barrel.

    Freaks... get a grip


    i'm sure you will
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    810wmb wrote:
    same old crap from him too, don't forget

    How so?

    How is anything I said, untrue?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    I was waiting for this response. The old if you don't love it leave it defense.

    well you did say you would leave if it came down to hilary and rudy.
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    mammasan wrote:
    Why is that everytime someone points out the ills of this country they are considered unpatriotic or it is suggested that they leave. A true patriot questions the actions and motives of his country if he/she deems them wrong or unhustified. It is because we love this country that we criticize and question our governments actions. To simply close our eyes to it or defend it simply because our country is undertaking these actions is called nationalism and look how well that worked out for Germany during the 1930's and 40's.

    no kidding, i know that too.

    gee, george is hitler
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    810wmb wrote:
    same old crap from him too, don't forget
    Wow, how old are you?

    I've been reading your posts in this and other threads, it's pretty hilarious. Let me guess .... as a kid, you were the little brat who always whined "But he started it!" every time you got caught doing anything, right?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • 810wmb wrote:
    i'm sure you will


    As should everyone. Imposing your will on other people is bullshit. Self righteous vomit.

    pile of utter nonsense....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I'll be so glad when this ultra conservative, self righteous, bible thumping "let us tell you how to run world and live your lives" bullshit is over.

    Imposing the will of Jesus (or whatever satanic demon) from the end of a gun barrel.

    Freaks... get a grip


    You're mistaken. He wouldn't dare pick up a gun. He's just a desktop warmonger preaching destruction and mass murder. Never would he put his life on the line, for these things he preaches about. Never.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well you did say you would leave if it came down to hilary and rudy.

    Hyperboly my friend. I would never leave my kids are here and Canada is just way to fucking cold in the winter.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    NMyTree wrote:
    How so?

    How is anything I said, untrue?

    same crap, "go sign up and fight" just because i may support the war on terror.

    i don't get to state my opinion just because i'm not over there?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    As should everyone. Imposing your will on other people is bullshit. Self righteous vomit.

    pile of utter nonsense....

    isn't that what you want? for people to see it yr way and then act on it?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    no kidding, i know that too.

    gee, george is hitler

    I never said Bush was Hitler. Hitler was a ruthless brutal monster. Bush is just an arrogant a-hole with a messaih complex. My point waqs not to compare Bush to Hitler but to point out the difference between patriotism and nationalism. There is nothing wrong with patriotism, nationalism on the other hand is extremely dangerious and it just seems that it is sweeping this nation.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    NMyTree wrote:
    You're mistaken. He wouldn't dare pick up a gun. He's just a desktop warmonger preaching destruction and mass murder. Never would he put his life on the line, for these things he preaches about. Never.
    Give the guy a break, I don't think he's old enough to go and fight.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    NMyTree wrote:
    You're mistaken. He wouldn't dare pick up a gun. He's just a desktop warmonger preaching destruction and mass murder. Never would he put his life on the line, for these things he preaches about. Never.

    you talking about me?

    if so, you don't know jack about me
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    hippiemom wrote:
    Give the guy a break, I don't think he's old enough to go and fight.

    hahahha, i wish
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    810wmb wrote:
    same crap, "go sign up and fight" just because i may support the war on terror.

    i don't get to state my opinion just because i'm not over there?

    There's a distinct difference in supporting the war and preaching the start of new wars and the death and destruction of a country and culture.

    Remind me again, what war is it you support? The one in Iraq? The war the USA started based on lies and deception? The war where the USA invaded a country under false pretense?

    The war where the USA preaches democracy but continues to do everything in their power to destroy anything that remotely resembles democracy......right here ....in their own backyard.....in the United States Of America?
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    NMyTree wrote:
    There's a distinct difference in supporting the war and preaching the start of new wars and the death and destruction of a country and culture.

    Remind me again, what war is it you support? The one in Iraq? The war the USA started based on lies and deception? The war where the USA invaded a country under false pretense?

    The war where the USA preaches democracy but continues to do everything in their power to destroy anything that remotely resembles democracy......right here ....in their own backyard.....in the United States Of America?


    yes, all that
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    hippiemom wrote:
    Wow, how old are you?

    I've been reading your posts in this and other threads, it's pretty hilarious. Let me guess .... as a kid, you were the little brat who always whined "But he started it!" every time you got caught doing anything, right?

    nope
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    810wmb wrote:
    yes, all that

    Thank you.

    Anything you say from this point on, has been rendered moot.
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    NMyTree wrote:
    Thank you.

    Anything you say from this point on, has been rendered moot.

    i could care less what you render....
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb wrote:
    isn't that what you want? for people to see it yr way and then act on it?

    I see you're still sore from 9/11 and don't think the time has fit the crime yet.

    All Muslims must die the end?

    What I want is to stop imposing. What you want is to create more and more towards infinity.

    I think you got sold pretty hard on the pre-emptive idiocy act. the big bad boogey man is coming.

    The US had Iran's sympathy and compassion on 9/11. Look what Bush did to it so little time. Keep supporting your own self destruction....that road leads nowhere.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    seems to be a generational problem with US and Iran relations. the old hardliners who have seen alot of war and want an Islamic hard line Theocracy vs. a young open minded democratic people.

    the US certainly isnt doing much to panda to the young crowd right now. moreover seems to be pissing them off.
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