Another misnomer: We don't all talk with that President Bush accent, either.
I work a job that requires me to basically travel to every major city in America at least once a year, and some in Canada. The one comment I get more than any other: "Well, you don't SOUND like you're from Texas."
I always get a kick out of that. Like the whole state is one big Western movie.
isn't it? cause i am prepared to defend the alamo if required.
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Why are the shootings at schools anyways? I mean they are declared "gun free" zones are they not? No one is allowed to carry guns in schools because of "gun free" zones so why worry about school shootings at all?
Colombine must have not been declared a "gun free" zone because if it were then no one could have brought guns there!
Why are the shootings at schools anyways? I mean they are declared "gun free" zones are they not? No one is allowed to carry guns in schools because of "gun free" zones so why worry about school shootings at all?
Colombine must have not been declared a "gun free" zone because if it were then no one could have brought guns there!
MORE GUN FREE ZONES!!!!
No one is supposed to cross the street unless you're at a crosswalk either :rolleyes:
I always figured it was because back in the old days if you were 16 and just itching to shoot someone you could lie about your age, sign up for war and be sent overseas to shoot at Germans or Commies. Once you were sent off to war, you either got shot yourself or realized that shooting someone is pretty serious shit and got it out of your system.
1. "the small community is a 30-minute drive from the sheriff's office, leaving students and teachers without protection. He said the district's lone campus sits 500 feet from heavily trafficked U.S. 287, which could make it a target.
The kindergarten through 12th grade school district is home to 110 students."
PLEASE, look at this link, it's not a negative thing, it just makes the point to the bigger question. The reason for teachers with guns is bullshit.
-- Bigger question is - Why do we even need police officers? Ever here of a police substation? Roving security guard, like at universities? This so called tiny school district and community DOES NOT have enough crime activity to even warrant the cost of the county board to put a police substation or assign a police officer in the area during the months school is in session. Hell, they could even deputize a community official during the school term. Instead, their solution is CHEAPER arm the teachers and school employees. If anything, they should be more concerned about people dying in tornado activity as this county sit in the heart of tornado alley.
No, the sole purpose of this is to establish a nation-wide test case for teachers and school employees to openly carry handguns affixed to their person like a cellphone during work. Yet it doesn't establish any ground rules for using these weapons.
2. "must use ammunition that is designed to minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls."
I'm a gun owner, both handgun and rifle, the type of bullets they are recommending are prefragmented bullets, hollow point and expanding bullets, shit that tear up a person's or animal's insides but doesn't leave much of the bullet to exit the body.
3. It's illegal to spank a child, but not to kill a child, yet, it is mandatory that a child go to school, but not mandatory that a person becomes a teacher or school employee.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
this thread is funny. everyone going batshit crazy cuz some little texas school says its ok to wear a gun to school, in which one guy will probably bring one a couple of times. nobody is gonna get shot over this.
this idea that they are just gonna start plugging kids for talking back is nonsense.
A bad student constantly going after the teacher . . .
Inappropriate sexual relations w/ a student gone bad . . .
Many possibilities.
On top of that there is dealing with Jackass parents, school administrators, school board members, stupid policies, crappy pay, being forced to teach creation as science, lots of reasons a teacher might get pissed off. Sure it’s a great idea to let them carry guns in school.
It's not about this little Texas school per se., it is about the Policy is establishes.
Nowadays a person doesn't have to get mad, all they have to do to justify a shooting is to claim they had a fear for their safety.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
in twelve years of public school i never saw a teacher get mad enough to shoot a kid if he/she had a gun.
I am sure there are a lot of postal workers who could say something very similar about their jobs. That doesn't mean that it is a good idea to make mail bags with built in holsters.
I'd feel safer if my teacher could cap some kid who was gettin' outta line.
"Tommy, please sit down in your seat."
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I don't know... but, that actually makes you look more like a pussy... than anything else. I mean, you need a fucking gun... as a grown adult... to get a kid in line.
Pussies use guns to get even... like those little fucks a Columbine. Guns make pussies feel like men.
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I am sure there are a lot of postal workers who could say something very similar about their jobs. That doesn't mean that it is a good idea to make mail bags with built in holsters.
not legally letting them bring guns to work didnt stop them from "going postal" either. its illegal for kids to bring guns to school, yet they do anyway.
i dont think carrying a weapon makes you more likely to snap and start killing people. and those that do snap will have no problem getting a weapon, legal or not.
the real issue is whether it should be legal to carry guns to work at all (which is already legal in a few states). i dont see any particular reason why schools should be singled out. the only place i would be for outright banning weapons are bars and nightclubs.
i dont think carrying a weapon makes you more likely to snap and start killing people. and those that do snap will have no problem getting a weapon, legal or not.
What about the people who do snap and in the heat of the moment, shoot someone? Like when you hear about someone getting cut off in traffic and then they pull their legal gun out of their glove box and shoot someone. Or the guy who walks in on his wife cheating, grabs his gun and kills them. Do you really people in those situations woudn't benefit from not having instant access to a gun (I would imagine that people in those type of situations if they had like 10 minutes to cool off they probably wouldn't shoot anyone). A teacher has to deal with situations where he might snap every day. If he has to go home before he can get his gun, he will probably be less likely to shoot someone then if it is right in his drawer.
eh i guess its slightly more likely kids can get their hands on their guns, but to be honest i dont see it being very likely that a teacher with a gun will help or hurt, so i have a hard time really caring about this.
No one is supposed to cross the street unless you're at a crosswalk either :rolleyes:
People don't follow rules.
So why not prepare for that eventuality? Why leave our most vulnerable completely defenseless? Why not arm properly trained staff to defend against this kind of thing?
So why not prepare for that eventuality? Why leave our most vulnerable completely defenseless? Why not arm properly trained staff to defend against this kind of thing?
at my school, we had a couple licensed deputies in an office, just in case. maybe that school should do the same?
So why not prepare for that eventuality? Why leave our most vulnerable completely defenseless? Why not arm properly trained staff to defend against this kind of thing?
That's fine. You just made it sound like you didn't want to have staff armed and trained.
So why not prepare for that eventuality? Why leave our most vulnerable completely defenseless? Why not arm properly trained staff to defend against this kind of thing?
Why not give everyone a bulletproof vest or backpack. Oh, I know... because all of it is ridiculous. You are not going to fix the problem with guns.
Kids are not morons. Well, they are... but they're not stupid... Well, they are... but they notice things. A kid that wants to kill will know who is carrying a weapon and who is not. They'll know where the security guard is and they'll plan their attack accordingly.
Unless armed teachers and security are going to monitor these kids non-stop, this whole idea will not work.
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isn't it? cause i am prepared to defend the alamo if required.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Because Texas isn't one big John Wayne movie, not everybody here has guns, and most of us don't.
I haven't really paid attention to him since he left the New Orleans Saints.
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it's not?
Colombine must have not been declared a "gun free" zone because if it were then no one could have brought guns there!
MORE GUN FREE ZONES!!!!
No one is supposed to cross the street unless you're at a crosswalk either :rolleyes:
People don't follow rules.
I always figured it was because back in the old days if you were 16 and just itching to shoot someone you could lie about your age, sign up for war and be sent overseas to shoot at Germans or Commies. Once you were sent off to war, you either got shot yourself or realized that shooting someone is pretty serious shit and got it out of your system.
The kindergarten through 12th grade school district is home to 110 students."
PLEASE, look at this link, it's not a negative thing, it just makes the point to the bigger question. The reason for teachers with guns is bullshit.
http://nces.ed.gov/ccd/districtsearch/district_detail.asp?start=0&ID2=4822620
-- Bigger question is - Why do we even need police officers? Ever here of a police substation? Roving security guard, like at universities? This so called tiny school district and community DOES NOT have enough crime activity to even warrant the cost of the county board to put a police substation or assign a police officer in the area during the months school is in session. Hell, they could even deputize a community official during the school term. Instead, their solution is CHEAPER arm the teachers and school employees. If anything, they should be more concerned about people dying in tornado activity as this county sit in the heart of tornado alley.
No, the sole purpose of this is to establish a nation-wide test case for teachers and school employees to openly carry handguns affixed to their person like a cellphone during work. Yet it doesn't establish any ground rules for using these weapons.
2. "must use ammunition that is designed to minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls."
I'm a gun owner, both handgun and rifle, the type of bullets they are recommending are prefragmented bullets, hollow point and expanding bullets, shit that tear up a person's or animal's insides but doesn't leave much of the bullet to exit the body.
3. It's illegal to spank a child, but not to kill a child, yet, it is mandatory that a child go to school, but not mandatory that a person becomes a teacher or school employee.
this idea that they are just gonna start plugging kids for talking back is nonsense.
On top of that there is dealing with Jackass parents, school administrators, school board members, stupid policies, crappy pay, being forced to teach creation as science, lots of reasons a teacher might get pissed off. Sure it’s a great idea to let them carry guns in school.
Nowadays a person doesn't have to get mad, all they have to do to justify a shooting is to claim they had a fear for their safety.
I am sure there are a lot of postal workers who could say something very similar about their jobs. That doesn't mean that it is a good idea to make mail bags with built in holsters.
Teachers should be the ones going on violent rampages with guns ablazing at our schools... not the students.
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I don't know... but, that actually makes you look more like a pussy... than anything else. I mean, you need a fucking gun... as a grown adult... to get a kid in line.
Pussies use guns to get even... like those little fucks a Columbine. Guns make pussies feel like men.
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not legally letting them bring guns to work didnt stop them from "going postal" either. its illegal for kids to bring guns to school, yet they do anyway.
i dont think carrying a weapon makes you more likely to snap and start killing people. and those that do snap will have no problem getting a weapon, legal or not.
the real issue is whether it should be legal to carry guns to work at all (which is already legal in a few states). i dont see any particular reason why schools should be singled out. the only place i would be for outright banning weapons are bars and nightclubs.
alcohol+guns= bad.
What about the people who do snap and in the heat of the moment, shoot someone? Like when you hear about someone getting cut off in traffic and then they pull their legal gun out of their glove box and shoot someone. Or the guy who walks in on his wife cheating, grabs his gun and kills them. Do you really people in those situations woudn't benefit from not having instant access to a gun (I would imagine that people in those type of situations if they had like 10 minutes to cool off they probably wouldn't shoot anyone). A teacher has to deal with situations where he might snap every day. If he has to go home before he can get his gun, he will probably be less likely to shoot someone then if it is right in his drawer.
So why not prepare for that eventuality? Why leave our most vulnerable completely defenseless? Why not arm properly trained staff to defend against this kind of thing?
So what's the difference between a properly trained and vetted teacher and an armed security guard?
No, I was trying to prove a point.
Why not give everyone a bulletproof vest or backpack. Oh, I know... because all of it is ridiculous. You are not going to fix the problem with guns.
Kids are not morons. Well, they are... but they're not stupid... Well, they are... but they notice things. A kid that wants to kill will know who is carrying a weapon and who is not. They'll know where the security guard is and they'll plan their attack accordingly.
Unless armed teachers and security are going to monitor these kids non-stop, this whole idea will not work.
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not a goddamn thing.......you've already told the bitch twice.
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sorry yer right ...that was lame.....early a.m.....caffine/nicotine levels not up yet...........
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!
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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went.
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