Obama Says He's Had Enough!

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g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
He Quits His Church After Yet Another Controversy.

Was he pressured to do this and even if he wasn't which church does he choose to attend if ANY?

Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Might just be the most change I've seen from him this far.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Might just be the most change I've seen from him this far.

    GOOD ONE. :D I think you're better comedian than a drummer. :)

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Might just be the most change I've seen from him this far.

    Oh, snap!!!!

    (That WAS good ...)
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i hope they make a reality show out of how he picks his next church.
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    i was pumping gas today and a black man came up and asked me for "change"
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Does anyone know what he actually plans to change and how he plans to do it?
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    MrSmith wrote:
    i hope they make a reality show out of how he picks his next church.

    No need to worry, Fox News will handle that request quite well.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    unsung wrote:
    Does anyone know what he actually plans to change and how he plans to do it?


    no.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    no.

    But he's talked about it for so long now. Surely it's not all *GASP* empty rhetoric? From a politician?!?! :eek:
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    But he's talked about it for so long now. Surely it's not all *GASP* empty rhetoric? From a politician?!?! :eek:

    Change we can believe in = oh yeah, I meant same old shit


    Not that any of it matters...as long as the sound bytes are catchy and charisma is flowing.

    what's funny is how the lefties around here bitched in 04 about people saying how they liked Bush because he was 'down to earth' and he was 'a guy you'd like to have a beer with'. Now that it's their candidate...charisma is all you need, apparently. Sing us that next pretty fairy tale.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Change we can believe in = oh yeah, I meant same old shit


    Not that any of it matters...as long as the sound bytes are catchy and charisma is flowing.

    what's funny is how the lefties around here bitched in 04 about people saying how they liked Bush because he was 'down to earth' and he was 'a guy you'd like to have a beer with'. Now that it's their candidate...charisma is all you need, apparently. Sing us that next pretty fairy tale.

    Meanwhile, the Republicans are running a candidate who thinks he's a Democrat. It's like the bizzaro election!!!
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Fool me three times...shame on ?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Change we can believe in = oh yeah, I meant same old shit


    Not that any of it matters...as long as the sound bytes are catchy and charisma is flowing.

    what's funny is how the lefties around here bitched in 04 about people saying how they liked Bush because he was 'down to earth' and he was 'a guy you'd like to have a beer with'. Now that it's their candidate...charisma is all you need, apparently. Sing us that next pretty fairy tale.

    But Obama's part of the Demmiecrat party, so it's okay to like him for whatever reasons they can find. It's as if the two Bush tenures were part of some huge door-in-the-face technique to make every politician ever seem palatable by comparison.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    But Obama's part of the Demmiecrat party, so it's okay to like him for whatever reasons they can find. It's as if the two Bush tenures were part of some huge door-in-the-face technique to make every politician ever seem palatable by comparison.


    funny ppl demonize bush now (and rightly so) and yet...so much of the 2 party's policies are the same. why just bush/cheney???? the foreign policies are almost exactly identical! you hear very little criticism about clinton other than getting a blow job then lying about it under oath. how the democrats have this image as an opposition party is beyond me

    change we can believe in...until after election day, then we can all go back to bitching about the 2 party's being worthless and ineffectual

    powered by naivety
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Meanwhile, the Republicans are running a candidate who thinks he's a Democrat. It's like the bizzaro election!!!


    haven't you heard???? he's the 2nd coming of bush!!! mcbush, mcwar, 100 years of war....:rolleyes:
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    El_Kabong wrote:
    funny ppl demonize bush now (and rightly so) and yet...so much of the 2 party's policies are the same. why just bush/cheney???? the foreign policies are almost exactly identical! you hear very little criticism about clinton other than getting a blow job then lying about it under oath. how the democrats have this image as an opposition party is beyond me

    change we can believe in...until after election day, then we can all go back to bitching about the 2 party's being worthless and ineffectual

    powered by naivety

    Foresight and hindsight don't seem to have much relevance in politics. It's all about what sounds good now - that's why Bush being out of office is a good thing, and electing someone who talks a good game with very little to back it up seems like the best idea in the world.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Naivety 08!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Foresight and hindsight don't seem to have much relevance in politics. It's all about what sounds good now - that's why Bush being out of office is a good thing, and electing someone who talks a good game with very little to back it up seems like the best idea in the world.


    no doubt. they say nader should instead be elected to the senate before running for president...but look at obama! he went to court and had everyone else thrown off the ballot or kept going to court until they dropped out...then he goes to washington, supports all the hawks, misses almost 1/2 of the votes in the senate...so nader's long resume isn't good enough, but obama winning an uncontested race and pretty much doing nothing but go on a nonstop media tour is somehow better?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    I don't get this. Obama's average donation is $100. No big money and he's got plenty of money to go. Hillary is in the red and McSame is borrowing heavily from W's name. He's run a relatively clean campaign against Hillary AND the Repugs and he's winning! I don't expect the guy to do miracles but I think he's a step in the right direction, especially if he can get Edwards, Kucinich, NADER(!!!) in his administration. So there! Thphtphptphpthptphp!!
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    binger wrote:
    I don't get this. Obama's average donation is $100. No big money and he's got plenty of money to go. Hillary is in the red and McSame is borrowing heavily from W's name. He's run a relatively clean campaign against Hillary AND the Repugs and he's winning! I don't expect the guy to do miracles but I think he's a step in the right direction, especially if he can get Edwards, Kucinich, NADER(!!!) in his administration. So there! Thphtphptphpthptphp!!


    except for the more than 1/4 of a million dollars he's recieved from a single nuclear power company

    http://jischinger.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/obama%E2%80%99s-money-cartel/

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=275309

    on top of all the other corporate and lobbyist money he's taken in

    what direction is he going that is the right one? lying about taking money and giving jobs to lobbyists?


    if ya want a step in the right direction:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=286746

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=283448

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=275309
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way

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