No Rules, No Authority

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  • Juberoo
    Juberoo Posts: 472
    Jeanie wrote:
    Leadership is a quality all of us have, some of us more than others.
    As the situation hasn't occured I cannot know who I would "allow" to make the rules but one would hope that consensus was reached and that all had an active participation in making the rules and regulations to live by.
    AND I would also hope that as we have now, if a person had an issue with said rules and regulations that they spoke up and did what they had to do to make sure that all points were considered.
    not all societies in the world live by this idea of democracy.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Juberoo wrote:
    The blind faith is in the your idea that you can buck society and get away with it.

    Aren't you American? I thought you guys had a fervour for Freedom Of Speech? AND let us not forget the blind faith America has in DEMOCRACY!
    You couldn't enjoy the bloody freedom you do today if people hadn't bucked the system and if you think that the rest of us will go quietly into that good night while tools like George are carrying on and the Church is busy trying to take over the world I think you'll find you're sadly mistaken. There are more than enough examples historically of people power changing the world we live in and believe me it will continue to happen. But I guess you'll be sitting on your ass being a subserviant, "good citizen" when they come for your children right?
    NOPE!!!

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    The currents will shift
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Juberoo wrote:
    not all societies in the world live by this idea of democracy.

    Yeah, but if corporate america has it's way they all will. So much easier to control everybody with the corporate american democratic model.

    and besides I don't know why you're bringing up other cultures and societies, it's not like they count in your tiny mind is it?
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Juberoo
    Juberoo Posts: 472
    Jeanie wrote:
    Yeah, but if corporate america has it's way they all will. So much easier to control everybody with the corporate american democratic model.

    and besides I don't know why you're bringing up other cultures and societies, it's not like they count in your tiny mind is it?
    Do you think you could debate any issue without having to resort to petty digs? Does it empower you?
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Some of you make it sound as if the prevelance of psychopathy is greater than it is (0.2% - 2%)[1].

    1. http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~pzapf/classes/PY761/Week%207%20Notes.htm
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    catefrances wrote:
    power is taken not given. the person who thinks they are the strongest will rise and take what he sees as his. he will gather his minions and if you oppose him you will be dealt with.

    They will also eventually be assasinated.

    I agree that this is the likely outcome. Just like a pack of wild dogs.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Shame how we hold world leaders up to morals and standards, and somehow it's a problem for some people....

    very telling.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Game Theory says that the cooperators lose and the detractors win. There are all sub-species of humans.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Juberoo wrote:
    Do you think you could debate any issue without having to resort to petty digs? Does it empower you?

    If my memory and history serves me correctly, you're the one that started with the petty digs dear. And if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. I'm starting to wonder if you're menopausal or something coz you really are struggling to play nice with the other kids. So I don't feel bad. I know I'm not the only one you've levelled your manevolent, judgemental, nasty digs at. Actually I'm pretty chuffed to be counted amongst those you can't play nice with. They're a good bunch of folk. I find you amusing. Something to toy with. And lets face it. You like it coz you keep coming back for more.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Juberoo
    Juberoo Posts: 472
    Jeanie wrote:
    If my memory and history serves me correctly, you're the one that started with the petty digs dear. And if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. I'm starting to wonder if you're menopausal or something coz you really are struggling to play nice with the other kids. So I don't feel bad. I know I'm not the only one you've levelled your manevolent, judgemental, nasty digs at. Actually I'm pretty chuffed to be counted amongst those you can't play nice with. They're a good bunch of folk. I find you amusing. Something to toy with. And lets face it. You like it coz you keep coming back for more.
    I keep coming back because like you, I refuse to back down when I believe I am right.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Juberoo wrote:
    I keep coming back because like you, I refuse to back down when I believe I am right.

    Oh well we're dealing with different motivations then. Because I couldn't give a shit if I'm right or wrong. I'm bound to be either at any given time in my life.
    I keep coming back because if there's one thing I am it's loyal and I'm really not into the blame game so whilst I have no problem with you holding the views you do, I do have a problem with your communication style and the way in which you seem to relish putting people down. Anyway, stand off is over for today as far as I'm concerned because the dog needs a walk.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Juberoo
    Juberoo Posts: 472
    Jeanie wrote:
    Oh well we're dealing with different motivations then. Because I couldn't give a shit if I'm right or wrong. I'm bound to be either at any given time in my life.
    I keep coming back because if there's one thing I am it's loyal and I'm really not into the blame game so whilst I have no problem with you holding the views you do, I do have a problem with your communication style and the way in which you seem to relish putting people down. Anyway, stand off is over for today as far as I'm concerned because the dog needs a walk.
    tootles
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    hmm...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Juberoo wrote:
    The blind faith is in the your idea that you can buck society and get away with it.
    You might benefit from watching this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-BCMC2kWY
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Jeanie wrote:
    Leadership is a quality all of us have, some of us more than others.
    As the situation hasn't occured I cannot know who I would "allow" to make the rules but one would hope that consensus was reached and that all had an active participation in making the rules and regulations to live by.
    AND I would also hope that as we have now, if a person had an issue with said rules and regulations that they spoke up and did what they had to do to make sure that all points were considered.

    And this is definately what I'd want to see too. With no one suppressed, it would lead to all speaking their minds, and a consensus choosing the right ones to lead the group. If that leader turned out to be bad, he/she'd be overthrown.
    juberoo wrote:
    not all societies in the world live by this idea of democracy.
    If there were no rules, no authority, no government, who's to say society wouldn't be democratic?
  • Juberoo
    Juberoo Posts: 472
    angelica wrote:
    You might benefit from watching this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-BCMC2kWY
    The difference between them and you is that they defied rules for the sake of the betterment of mankind. Yours seems to be more of a selfish nature.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Juberoo wrote:
    Do you think you could debate any issue without having to resort to petty digs? Does it empower you?

    tht' rich coming from the chick who resorted to calling me a loser rather than responding to my arguments in the cheating thread.
  • Juberoo
    Juberoo Posts: 472
    soulsinging wrote:
    tht' rich coming from the chick who resorted to calling me a loser rather than responding to my arguments in the cheating thread.
    did it bother you that much? hmmm
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I just gotta laugh at this point...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Juberoo wrote:
    did it bother you that much? hmmm

    not in the least. only in the sense that you are know getting all high and mighty about not using personal digs when you're the queen of such posts. i loathe hypocrisy.

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