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JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
edited August 2007 in A Moving Train
What do you think would happen to society/the world if there were no rules, no authority, no government etc.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

Pro-life by choice.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I'd plunder, pillage and burn!



    :p

    Seriously, I think I'd speed allot more in my car. Thats about it.
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Juberoo wrote:
    What do you think would happen to society/the world if there were no rules, no authority, no government etc.
    We'd be like congress, completely immoral, out of control with no compassion for anyone.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    non-stop rioting. The world would be a mess with no order. The intelligent people would be overrun by the people who know how to destruct.
    As in parenting, there must be some kind of order or rules set in place to instill values in people.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Juberoo wrote:
    What do you think would happen to society/the world if there were no rules, no authority, no government etc.

    The world would stay the same. Some societies might be a tiny bit different.
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  • Indian SummerIndian Summer Posts: 2,296
    we'd self destruct.
    "It's all happening"
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Just to clarify. This is a very stupid question. Humans do not operate without some sort of system of structure, written or unwritten. I'm hoping the poster isn't suggesting this is a case-scenario for his/her imagined "society" to come.
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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    Juberoo wrote:
    What do you think would happen to society/the world if there were no rules, no authority, no government etc.

    It would be a helluva a lot easier for me to kill stupid mofos, without those pesky murder laws in the way, that's for damn sure.


    *grab yer body bags and step right up*
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    That would resolve the overpopulation problem quickly. Otherwises it would basically still be the same stuff : people on top, people at the bottom and people in between.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    gue_barium wrote:
    Just to clarify. This is a very stupid question. Humans do not operate without some sort of system of structure, written or unwritten. I'm hoping the poster isn't suggesting this is a case-scenario for his/her imagined "society" to come.

    Quite the opposite I for-see a society where there's nothing but rules and regulations. One under constant monitoring and supervision, one so strict one can't take a dump without authority knowing.

    As for the question....After some period of chaos and mayhem some form of structure would be implemented which brings us back to "Same As It Ever Was".....Talking Heads

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    It would be like Mad Max.
    I'll Ride The Wave Where It Takes Me
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    It would be like junior high when we had a substitute teacher.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Juberoo wrote:
    What do you think would happen to society/the world if there were no rules, no authority, no government etc.

    It doesn't work like that.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    hippiemom wrote:
    It would be like junior high when we had a substitute teacher.

    I swear that it wasn't me that locked that mean, awful woman out of the classroom!

    :D
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    prism wrote:
    I swear that it wasn't me that locked that mean, awful woman out of the classroom!

    :D
    Oh, I know, I did that :o

    I was sure that was you with the super glue though :D
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • rarghrargh-brownstarrarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    what do YOU think about all of these questions you ask? just wondering.

    Actually thats not fair, because I think (cant remember) I've made many of these types of threads.....but I am just curious. I guess a lot of it comes out with replies.
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • rarghrargh-brownstarrarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    hippiemom wrote:
    It would be like junior high when we had a substitute teacher.
    BEST analogy EVER. :D:D:D

    youre brilliant.
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Lord of the Flies

    :p
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    We'll find out soon!
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    First things first ...catch and turn all the ex politicians into soap...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:
    what do YOU think about all of these questions you ask? just wondering.

    Actually thats not fair, because I think (cant remember) I've made many of these types of threads.....but I am just curious. I guess a lot of it comes out with replies.
    simple mind exercises :)
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    First things first ...catch and turn all the ex politicians into soap...
    ewwww who would use it? That would be like trying to get clean using motor oil!
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • rarghrargh-brownstarrarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    Juberoo wrote:
    simple mind exercises :)
    :) yeah I understand.

    I guess it makes you stronger in your own beliefs, coming to stronger conclusions in what you side with it.

    On the other hand, its more difficult to see the other side. Thats the hardest challenge especially when you think a certain statements are unfathomable. I also like hearing new insights, or looking at issues in a whole new way due to all the responses.....

    Personally, I know it makes me face issues that I dont always want to face...just from being lazy or just uncomfortable with a subject.

    So thanks eveyrone....

    Lord of the Flies! :p
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    There have been and is plenty of stateless societies if that's what you imply. By enlarge people aren't unruly, in-fact most of our so-called moral values are genetically determined.

    People who think there would be anarchy without laws are truly frightening. Our only way of imagining what other's might do is by introspection. The man who says he would murder his neighbour, if not for the fear of God, is a frightening man as well.

    A Canadian Libertarian Stefan Molyneaux writes about his imagined stateless society here. I have some personal issues with Stef and wouldn't recommend his philosophy to anyone, but he does write brilliantly on the idea.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    surferdude wrote:
    We'd be like congress, completely immoral, out of control with no compassion for anyone.
    Speak for yourself. Rules and authority aren't what make me who I am. And I don't think the majority of people would turn into psychopaths like most politicians are. Most people have a conscience. The only way filthy lawmakers don't all commit suicide is because over time they've learned to shut off the part of their brains that tells them what they're doing is wrong. I believe it's a serious medical condition that the majority of citizens don't have. The average citizen is just lazy and uneducated and become the prey of psychopaths.
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Ahnimus wrote:
    People who think there would be anarchy without laws are truly frightening. Our only way of imagining what other's might do is by introspection. The man who says he would murder his neighbour, if not for the fear of God, is a frightening man as well.
    This is true. That's why it's so important for people to establish their morals and values OUTSIDE of religion.

    I live in Utah where mormonism is predominant. This isn't a shot at their religion or anyone else's. But I've seen over and over and over again someone who won't drink, smoke, have sex, etc. because the religion tells them not to. But then if they have the slightest bit of doubt about the religion they fucking go off the deep end and turn into a cracked out thief manwhore or HIV skank with no morals whatsoever. They were only trying to live a good life because they thought it's the only way to get to heaven and become a god or whatever. So take away god and they have no other reason to live good lives. It's fucking insane.

    Those are the types of people that might cause some chaos without rules. But overall I think we'd be fine. I really think it would balance out and the world would probably even be a better place.
  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    don't gimme no wrote:
    This is true. That's why it's so important for people to establish their morals and values OUTSIDE of religion.

    I live in Utah where mormonism is predominant. This isn't a shot at their religion or anyone else's. But I've seen over and over and over again someone who won't drink, smoke, have sex, etc. because the religion tells them not to. But then if they have the slightest bit of doubt about the religion they fucking go off the deep end and turn into a cracked out thief manwhore or HIV skank with no morals whatsoever. They were only trying to live a good life because they thought it's the only way to get to heaven and become a god or whatever. So take away god and they have no other reason to live good lives. It's fucking insane.

    Those are the types of people that might cause some chaos without rules. But overall I think we'd be fine. I really think it would balance out and the world would probably even be a better place.
    Good point....let me ask this....cuz your comments made me think....do you think that there is fanaticism just as strong among the anti-religious?

    BTW...the manwhore comment made me laugh!!! Too funny!
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    godpt3 wrote:
    It would be a helluva a lot easier for me to kill stupid mofos, without those pesky murder laws in the way, that's for damn sure.


    *grab yer body bags and step right up*

    yep, id clean up the moving train REAL good. show cw just how pussy this liberal isn't.

    we'd end up banding together in small groups and it would probably make most people happier. humans are social creatures and need to feel part of something. that's the problem with america now... no sense of community. for all our instant communication, we are more isolated than ever. it's why religion is attractive. it's why politics have become more about partisanship and less about civic duty. it's why this forum has thrived so much. with no laws, people would bond based on shared interests and be happier and closer to their fellow for it.

    on the other hand, we'd be down to survival of the fittest and i'd make damn sure i'm fit.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    soulsinging wrote:
    yep, id clean up the moving train REAL good. show cw just how pussy this liberal isn't.
    When you, me & the rest of the crew got done, they'd never know what hit 'em :D
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    hippiemom wrote:
    When you, me & the rest of the crew got done, they'd never know what hit 'em :D

    nope. im picturing the last 15 minutes of the godfather...
  • AusticmanAusticman Posts: 1,327
    Juberoo wrote:
    What do you think would happen to society/the world if there were no rules, no authority, no government etc.

    Its not possible. As soon as the current authority is torn down a new one will form to take its place whether it be to rule with an iron fist or for the betterment of the human race or even just for their own protection they will eventually impose rules and authority again. Anarchy is an illusion and even the Mad Max scenario has a leader imposing his will on others.
    I can't go the library anymore, everyone STINKS!!
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