9/11 "not that bad"

TVVNCYBRAPJ

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7057601.stm


....sure, two 110 story office towers falling to the ground with thousands of people in them "isnt that bad"...


Ok, 5 people died and 34 were injured in the IRA attacks, but a couple office building collapsing, eh...not that bat

First Gore and now this prize. Can we Castro a Nobel prize next?

lucylespian

Well, there is two perspectives here.

I actually do think that 9/11 wa a terrible occurrence.
But considering the fact that you guys slaughter 22 00 people EVERY year with handguns, and kill more children with guns every year than died in the 9/11 attacks, sadly, it is not the biggest problem your country faces.

gue_barium

lucylespian wrote:

Well, there is two perspectives here.

I actually do think that 9/11 wa a terrible occurrence.
But considering the fact that you guys slaughter 22 00 people EVERY year with handguns, and kill more children with guns every year than died in the 9/11 attacks, sadly, it is not the biggest problem your country faces.

I wouldn't say fascism in the US is at epidemic levels, though I would argue that a totalitarian regime is quietly getting close. It's only in its obscene molester stage.

Our country is a study in individuality like no other. You have to grant us that.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I would say that 99.9% of shock value came from what happened rather than the deaths of the people themselves. 3000 deaths is quite insignificant when you browse things like workplace statistics, Darwin type awards, deaths from lack of health care...the list goes on.

A 9/11's worth of Iraqi deaths in comparison happens every day in Iraq. 2,000 new refugees are created daily in Iraq from the occupation.

Granted 911 was bad, however, worse things are happening aside from the steel, concrete, and fire visuals.

If the criteria is building collapse events rather than loss of life , then yeah.

810wmb

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I would say that 99.9% of shock value came from what happened rather than the deaths of the people themselves. 3000 deaths is quite insignificant when you browse things like workplace statistics, Darwin type awards, deaths from lack of health care...the list goes on.

A 9/11's worth of Iraqi deaths in comparison happens every day in Iraq. 2,000 new refugees are created daily in Iraq from the occupation.

then why all the uproar about 3500? or american soldiers deaths in iraq?

blackredyellow

810wmb wrote:

then why all the uproar about 3500? or american soldiers deaths in iraq?

Because they are preventable, yet we do nothing about it.

810wmb

blackredyellow wrote:

Because they are preventable, yet we do nothing about it.

we are at war, how are they preventable? they volunteered to serve, the go where they are sent...the end

NMyTree

TVVNCYBRAPJ wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7057601.stm


....sure, two 110 story office towers falling to the ground with thousands of people in them "isnt that bad"...


Ok, 5 people died and 34 were injured in the IRA attacks, but a couple office building collapsing, eh...not that bat

First Gore and now this prize. Can we Castro a Nobel prize next?

Well, when you read her comments in context and consider her overall point, she is correct.

While she points out one or two specific attacks by the IRA, she is speaking of the full history and damage done by the IRA's collective attacks. She is not diminishing the 9/11 attacks, rather, putting them into proper context.

Her comments on Bush were dead-on correct, also. But it is obvious she understands that it's not really just about Bush, but about this whole administration and it's corporate loyalties

RolandTD20Kdrummer

810wmb wrote:

then why all the uproar about 3500? or american soldiers deaths in iraq?

Guilt probably.

810wmb

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Guilt probably.

hahahahahah...guilt my ass!

you feel guilty?

Rats of Multa

gue_barium wrote:

I wouldn't say fascism in the US is at epidemic levels, though I would argue that a totalitarian regime is quietly getting close. It's only in its obscene molester stage.

Our country is a study in individuality like no other. You have to grant us that.

i think this upcoming presidential election may shed some viable light on how severely corrupt "American politics" have become.

*honestly though, probably the election process--as opposed to the actual election event itself--will yield the true evidence, since most likely the corruption will [yet again] prevent America's most promising candidate(s) from advancing beyond the party-primaries.

Ron Paul 08!

janegosford

TVVNCYBRAPJ wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7057601.stm


....sure, two 110 story office towers falling to the ground with thousands of people in them "isnt that bad"...


Ok, 5 people died and 34 were injured in the IRA attacks, but a couple office building collapsing, eh...not that bat

First Gore and now this prize. Can we Castro a Nobel prize next?

What a stupid thing to say. I really hate when people try to qualify or compare tragedies. Like some sort of sick competition.

But keep in mind, she didn't win a Nobel Peace Prize. She won a Nobel Prize in Literature. Big difference.

El_Kabong

TVVNCYBRAPJ wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7057601.stm


....sure, two 110 story office towers falling to the ground with thousands of people in them "isnt that bad"...


Ok, 5 people died and 34 were injured in the IRA attacks, but a couple office building collapsing, eh...not that bat

First Gore and now this prize. Can we Castro a Nobel prize next?

the amount of ppl that die in america every year just from not having any health insurance or even the number of ppl who die from smoking related illnesses (not to mention a whoooooole lot of other things like car accidents, drunk driving....) is faaaaaar greater than the number that died on 9/11....

janegosford

El_Kabong wrote:

the amount of ppl that die in america every year just from not having any health insurance or even the number of ppl who die from smoking related illnesses (not to mention a whoooooole lot of other things like car accidents, drunk driving....) is faaaaaar greater than the number that died on 9/11....

Not really the point though is it? I hate these body bag competitions.

Its Evolution Baby

810wmb wrote:

we are at war, how are they preventable? they volunteered to serve, the go where they are sent...the end

And we agree with where they are being sent. I would not be against them fighting Afghanistan, Al Queda etc.

I am against the Iraq War and have been since day one. So to me the soldiers are dying for an unjust cause whether they volunteered or not.

Also how many of these volunteers signed up after 9/11 to fight the terrorists only to be sent to Iraq instead?

soulsinging

TVVNCYBRAPJ wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7057601.stm


....sure, two 110 story office towers falling to the ground with thousands of people in them "isnt that bad"...


Ok, 5 people died and 34 were injured in the IRA attacks, but a couple office building collapsing, eh...not that bat

First Gore and now this prize. Can we Castro a Nobel prize next?

i'd like to see the stats, but i dont think the ira has killed as many people in 100 years as died on 9/11.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

El_Kabong wrote:

the amount of ppl that die in america every year just from not having any health insurance or even the number of ppl who die from smoking related illnesses (not to mention a whoooooole lot of other things like car accidents, drunk driving....) is faaaaaar greater than the number that died on 9/11....

Holy I think I just saw a ghost called El Kabong.

Did you lose a bet, or just genuinely miss the train and fel the need to re associate?

No pressure....but....are we to expect you back?

I could deal with it...

(thought I'd get my first cuts in)

soulsinging

El_Kabong wrote:

the amount of ppl that die in america every year just from not having any health insurance or even the number of ppl who die from smoking related illnesses (not to mention a whoooooole lot of other things like car accidents, drunk driving....) is faaaaaar greater than the number that died on 9/11....

and more die of old age in their beds than any of those. what's your point? that nobody should be upset about 9/11 until we've eradicated cancer?

jlew24asu

El_Kabong wrote:

the amount of ppl that die in america every year just from not having any health insurance or even the number of ppl who die from smoking related illnesses (not to mention a whoooooole lot of other things like car accidents, drunk driving....) is faaaaaar greater than the number that died on 9/11....

nice attempt at marginalizing those who died on 9/11. why dont you just tell us how you really feel.

ryan198

jlew24asu wrote:

nice attempt at marginalizing those who died on 9/11. why dont you just tell us how you really feel.

Ok...if you insist...The aftereffects of 9/11 were far more damaging to our world than the actual blowing up of the buildings, and it was done for a far better reason (not that I agree with the way it was acted out per se) than anything our government has done since. Those attacks were attempts by the relatively voiceless in this world, those that have been taken advantage of by the west for years to symbolically destroy the system that which has served to oppress them over the last 70 or so years. Unfortuanately, now the US government has an excuse to go and blow them up even more, remove human rights from those in their own country, and consistently point back to "9/11" as a case study for why we need to remove rights. It's absolutely pathetic where the US has gone since that day.

soulsinging

ryan198 wrote:

Ok...if you insist...The aftereffects of 9/11 were far more damaging to our world than the actual blowing up of the buildings, and it was done for a far better reason (not that I agree with the way it was acted out per se) than anything our government has done since. Those attacks were attempts by the relatively voiceless in this world, those that have been taken advantage of by the west for years to symbolically destroy the system that which has served to oppress them over the last 70 or so years. Unfortuanately, now the US government has an excuse to go and blow them up even more, remove human rights from those in their own country, and consistently point back to "9/11" as a case study for why we need to remove rights. It's absolutely pathetic where the US has gone since that day.

so? doesn't mean it wasn't a tragedy with a senseless loss of life. the fact that it has been exploited to a sickening extent by people whose cynicism makes me look like an optimist is only reason to be angry at them, not downplay the scale of the event.