Australian PM blasts Obama...

soulsinging

Last Exodus wrote:

Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

funny, i coulda sworn my copy said something about war powers being expressly delegated to congress... id double check but my constitutional law textbook is WAY to hefty to be lifting at this hour.

anyway, ive got to side with obama here... if this dude's so gung ho about iraq, how come he's committed a whopping 1000 troops to non-combat roles and nothing more? if he's so worried about boons for the terrorists maybe HE can cough up a few more soldiers to actually fight.

Jeanie

Last Exodus wrote:

Yeah....Pretty funny. And now I have a new name for Anus....Kyber! G'DaY Australia! I never new I had a kyber until now....

See? Stick around you never know what you might learn!! :D:D:D

Scubascott

Jeanie wrote:

Well we are struggling here to keep our cultural and language from being over run by Americanisms. Not that there's anything wrong with America but we don't want to lose our own culture and heritage and language to crappy American examples. So I guess I feel I have an obligation to represent!!!

Represent? Isn't that one of those americanisms?

Last Exodus

Jeanie wrote:

See? Stick around you never know what you might learn!! :D:D:D

Oh god say it isn't so. I just put it together...In Afghanistan is a very famous geographic spot known as the Khyber Pass....You guys didn't spend any time in Afghanistan did ya? Cuz if so, that's a really nasty name...

Hinny

Ahnimus wrote:

When did John Howard becomd an expert on the American Constitution?

I'm guessing the minute he found his soul mate in Dubya when he 'beat' Gore all those years ago.


It's completely out of Howard's character to not understand how this would actually elevate the standing of someone who's ideologically opposed to him. And even more, to possibly damage the relationship between the leadership of the two countries, considering how much he values the alliance. Seems to me he's getting ready for retirement, since this just smacks of his final effort at cozying up to his slavemaster in the White House, with no thought whatsover of the consequences.

Of course he feels this way. Wouldn't expect anything less of him. But to be so outspokenly interventionist- it's just baffling why he'd do this.

Scubascott

soulsinging wrote:

funny, i coulda sworn my copy said something about war powers being expressly delegated to congress... id double check but my constitutional law textbook is WAY to hefty to be lifting at this hour.

anyway, ive got to side with obama here... if this dude's so gung ho about iraq, how come he's committed a whopping 1000 troops to non-combat roles and nothing more? if he's so worried about boons for the terrorists maybe HE can cough up a few more soldiers to actually fight.

How about the fact that our population is about 5% the size of America's? So if we were to make a contribution (which we shouldn't have) it should be about 5% of America's. Of course that's a completely lame argument, because we sent 50,000 troops to Vietnam in support of another stupid american war, and our population was significantly smaller then.

A better explanation is that our contribution is just a token show of support by our Bush puppet of prime minister, designed to keep that anal passage well lubricated while not provoking too much outcry from the australian public.

Last Exodus

Jeanie wrote:

Well we are struggling here to keep our cultural and language from being over run by Americanisms. Not that there's anything wrong with America but we don't want to lose our own culture and heritage and language to crappy American examples. So I guess I feel I have an obligation to represent!!!

Sounds like you guys have your own George W down there from the sound of it. Nasty convservative despised by the young, yet bewilderingly re-elected by the majority...We get it. Got one of them here. Love Aussies myself. I did some serious drinkin with you guys whilst on holiday in Bali many years back....Sadly, the same bar that I met so many cool Australian in was blown up just a couple of years after that by some lovely little muslims.

I don't know much about your PM other than the fact that he stood by our stupid ass President. Some of us are actually quite greatful for that...At one time our countries had common enemies, now it seems all we have are common problems...

Scubascott

Last Exodus wrote:

Oh god say it isn't so. I just put it together...In Afghanistan is a very famous geographic spot known as the Khyber Pass....You guys didn't spend any time in Afghanistan did ya? Cuz if so, that's a really nasty name...

Isn't the Kyhber pass in Pakistan?

Jeanie

Scubascott wrote:

Represent? Isn't that one of those americanisms?

:D:D I was waiting for that! Knew it was a bad choice as I was typing it!
But my brain is a little tired! Any better suggestions? I mean some rhyming slang would be great scott!

Jeanie

Last Exodus wrote:

Oh god say it isn't so. I just put it together...In Afghanistan is a very famous geographic spot known as the Khyber Pass....You guys didn't spend any time in Afghanistan did ya? Cuz if so, that's a really nasty name...

Yes! That's what it's named after I think! There was a very funny ad campaign here years ago, which I can barely remember but Khyber Pass was the joke. Of course we took it and ran with it!! AND it was long before current world events. We have a lot of Afghanis here Last Exodus, they came out with the camels way back in the 1800's. Hence our famous train The Ghan.

Last Exodus

Scubascott wrote:

Isn't the Kyhber pass in Pakistan?

connects Pakistan to Afghanistan

Jeanie

Scubascott wrote:

Isn't the Kyhber pass in Pakistan?

My understanding is that it's the gateway from Pakistan into Afghanistan but then I'm basing that on Shantaram, and not the atlas!!

Last Exodus

In Australia, it apparently links the lower intestine to the outside world...who knew?

Last Exodus

Jeanie wrote:

Yes! That's what it's named after I think! There was a very funny ad campaign here years ago, which I can barely remember but Khyber Pass was the joke. Of course we took it and ran with it!! AND it was long before current world events. We have a lot of Afghanis here Last Exodus, they came out with the camels way back in the 1800's. Hence our famous train The Ghan.

Now that's funny! I was guessin on that one. I wonder which term came about first. Have to do some digging....

Last Exodus

Jeanie wrote:

My understanding is that it's the gateway from Pakistan into Afghanistan but then I'm basing that on Shantaram, and not the atlas!!

thats correct.

Jeanie

Last Exodus wrote:

Sounds like you guys have your own George W down there from the sound of it. Nasty convservative despised by the young, yet bewilderingly re-elected by the majority...We get it. Got one of them here. Love Aussies myself. I did some serious drinkin with you guys whilst on holiday in Bali many years back....Sadly, the same bar that I met so many cool Australian in was blown up just a couple of years after that by some lovely little muslims.

I don't know much about your PM other than the fact that he stood by our stupid ass President. Some of us are actually quite greatful for that...At one time our countries had common enemies, now it seems all we have are common problems...

Yep, well Johnny wishes he was George! That's for sure!! And I don't think he is re elected by much of a majority, Last Exodus, it's usually a very tight race, won on preferences. Or other interesting counting methods, but I won't go into my conspiracy theories here!

Yeah, the Sari Club and Paddy's bar where both a great little night out, if you're into that kind of thing. And October 12 was a truly hideous, and despicable act by extremists. As was the follow up the next year.

As previously mentioned, by most of us here now and even Ed on the last tour, Johnny bends over and takes it for George and it makes most of us ill!

Jeanie

Hinny wrote:

I'm guessing the minute he found his soul mate in Dubya when he 'beat' Gore all those years ago.


It's completely out of Howard's character to not understand how this would actually elevate the standing of someone who's ideologically opposed to him. And even more, to possibly damage the relationship between the leadership of the two countries, considering how much he values the alliance. Seems to me he's getting ready for retirement, since this just smacks of his final effort at cozying up to his slavemaster in the White House, with no thought whatsover of the consequences.

Of course he feels this way. Wouldn't expect anything less of him. But to be so outspokenly interventionist- it's just baffling why he'd do this.

He's attempting to divert attention from something else he's doing Hinny. It's a standard tactic of his. It'll all be revealed soon enough.

Scubascott

Jeanie wrote:

As previously mentioned, by most of us here now and even Ed on the last tour, Johnny bends over and takes it for George and it makes most of us ill!

Ed mentioned it on the 2003 tour too. At one of the melbourne shows he made a joke about getting a phone call from Johnny asking if he could perform oral sex on him. 'It seems he has a thing for american men'

Jeanie

Last Exodus wrote:

In Australia, it apparently links the lower intestine to the outside world...who knew?

Kyber, also know as ya bum!

Jeanie

Scubascott wrote:

Ed mentioned it on the 2003 tour too. At one of the melbourne shows he made a joke about getting a phone call from Johnny asking if he could perform oral sex on him. 'It seems he has a thing for american men'

Ah yeah!! I remember that now!!! I gotta get the 2003 Melbourne boots.