Australian PM blasts Obama...

Last Exodus

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/11/obama.comment/index.html

Obama's on crack. You cant legislate the end of a war. And congress doesn't have the power to make decisions on troop levels. You Obama supporters ought to read the Constitution. Seems Obama doesn't have a copy himself.

mammasan

The Democrats are not going to do anything different in Iraq. they will continue down the same road as this administration. Hillary, Obama, Edwards, etc... are all just blowing smoke up our asses to get our support.

Last Exodus

Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Jeanie

Seriously Last Exodus, I know nothing about Obama. And I've stayed right out of the American politics threads, but I will just say this:

Your government has never listed to John Howard before, hell most of us don't listen to him! So maybe he's not the best person to cite as even a voice to be listened to let alone agreed with.

catefrances

what a crock of bullshit. so johnny howard has just taken the side of the terorists by hoping for an obama victory. maybe he should concentrate on his own country and butt out of things that really aren't his business. what right does he have to say anything about obama's decisions? australia has enough of its own problems without worrying what the leader or possible future leader of the united states says or plans on doing.

here's a thought johnny:
why don't you grow some much needed backbone and concentrate on getting david hicks home free, instead of sucking the arse of the US government.

Ahnimus

When did John Howard becomd an expert on the American Constitution?

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

When did John Howard becomd an expert on the American Constitution?

the moment he lost his mind perhaps????

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

what a crock of bullshit. so johnny howard has just taken the side of the terorists by hoping for an obama victory. maybe he should concentrate on his own country and butt out of things that really aren't his business. what right does he have to say anything about obama's decisions? australia has enough of its own problems without worrying what the leader or possible future leader of the united states says or plans on doing.

here's a thought johnny:
why don't you grow some much needed backbone and concentrate on getting david hicks home free, instead of sucking the arse of the US government.

cate girl! Johnny will never grow a back bone! Not gonna happen!! Nah, I reckon they're up to something! And I reckon in a little while we'll be able to work out what. Maybe something to do with this Nuclear power thing they're pushing. Johnny's just deflecting our gaze from his actions on that by stirring up shit with America. Usually how he operates!
And I don't know cate, sometimes it seems they'll never let that poor man go. And we will never as a nation stand up and tell the American government in no uncertain terms that their actions in this case have been appalling!
I notice today though the headline board for the papers are saying Kevin Rudd is at 63% popularity. Interesting! Maybe the times are a changing?

Jeanie

Ahnimus wrote:

When did John Howard becomd an expert on the American Constitution?

He's not Ahnimus. He and his cronies prefer to leave any reading up to the Americans to do and then get them to inform them of their options and prefered course of action. Just ask Phillip Ruddock!!

Scubascott

One more reason not to vote for Johnny. I don't know how much confidence I have in Labor's ability to run the economy successfully, but I can't help thinking that whatever mistakes they make can't be as bad as the direction the liberals want to take Australia in. I think if Howard had his way we'd be a conservative christian theocracy (protestant of course) in 20 years time, with the penis of American imperilism lodged firmly in our collective anus.

LikeAnOcean

Last Exodus wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/11/obama.comment/index.html

Obama's on crack. You cant legislate the end of a war. And congress doesn't have the power to make decisions on troop levels. You Obama supporters ought to read the Constitution. Seems Obama doesn't have a copy himself.

I agree with Obama, so that must be some good crack!

Jeanie

Scubascott wrote:

One more reason not to vote for Johnny. I don't know how much confidence I have in Labor's ability to run the economy successfully, but I can't help thinking that whatever mistakes they make can't be as bad as the direction the liberals want to take Australia in. I think if Howard had his way we'd be a conservative christian theocracy (protestant of course) in 20 years time, with the penis of American imperilism lodged firmly in our collective anus.

:D I do so like your posts Scubascott!! Not just pretty pictures!! Smart and funny words too!

I have no confidence in Rudd not to take us down the same path as Johhny from a conservative religious standpoint! When are we going to get a real alternative that is clearly interested in separating Church and State? And you're right, Labors previous economic mismanagement is definitely cause for concern. But yeah, I'm sick of living in a country that keeps taking it up the kyber because our government keeps making easy access. I just hope we can recover from the damage done so far.

Scubascott

Jeanie wrote:

But yeah, I'm sick of living in a country that keeps taking it up the kyber because our government keeps making easy access. I just hope we can recover from the damage done so far.

I think its really only about halfway in so far. Johnny is lubing us up for full penetration.

Jeanie

Scubascott wrote:

I think its really only about halfway in so far. Johnny is lubing us up for full penetration.

Sshh!! Don't freak me out!! I try to ignore him whenever and wherever possible, but it is getting harder and harder to do! But you're right, I'm quite sure he's working up to something quite, quite hideous! :eek:

Scubascott

Jeanie wrote:

Sshh!! Don't freak me out!! I try to ignore him whenever and wherever possible, but it is getting harder and harder to do! But you're right, I'm quite sure he's working up to something quite, quite hideous! :eek:

He won't win another term in office, surely. . . Will he?

I mean come on, after David Hicks, gay marriage, Iraq, mandatory detention, children overboard. . . and there was the old fashioned rogering he gave the sugar growers when he signed the free trade deal with the seppos, climate change denial, poor handling of the tensions with the pacific nations . . .especially in the current climate of anti-american sentiment. Surely he won't win another election.

But that's what I thought about Bush getting is for a second term. I really hope we aren't as dumb as that.

Jeanie

Scubascott wrote:

He won't win another term in office, surely. . . Will he?

I mean come on, after David Hicks, gay marriage, Iraq, mandatory detention, children overboard. . . and there was the old fashioned rogering he gave the sugar growers when he signed the free trade deal with the seppos, climate change denial, poor handling of the tensions with the pacific nations . . .especially in the current climate of anti-american sentiment. Surely he won't win another election.

But that's what I thought about Bush getting is for a second term. I really hope we aren't as dumb as that.

All extremely valid reasons to boot his ass out of office sscott but, gee I don't know. I think maybe we aren't as dumb as that, but Johnny keeps getting in on preference, doesn't he? The Nationals have really helped him there, and Labor, The Democrats, The Greens, none are standing out as a single good alternative. People go with what they know, unfortunately.

And I cried way back when he got in initially. I said to my grandma on the day he was elected. He's just like a really dodgy guy in a nightclub that keeps popping up and asking you to dance. You keep telling him no, but he keeps popping up. You don't then go get so drunk you take him home and f**k him!! That's how it felt to me anyway. He'd been trying so hard just to get to be the leader of the opposition, and then all of a sudden PM? His election was worthy of tears and still is.

And don't get me started on George W!! :eek:

Last Exodus

Jeanie wrote:

Seriously Last Exodus, I know nothing about Obama. And I've stayed right out of the American politics threads, but I will just say this:

Your government has never listed to John Howard before, hell most of us don't listen to him! So maybe he's not the best person to cite as even a voice to be listened to let alone agreed with.

Hey man, Im just throwin it out there for y'all to discuss....

Last Exodus

Jeanie wrote:

cate girl! Johnny will never grow a back bone! Not gonna happen!! Nah, I reckon they're up to something! And I reckon in a little while we'll be able to work out what. Maybe something to do with this Nuclear power thing they're pushing. Johnny's just deflecting our gaze from his actions on that by stirring up shit with America. Usually how he operates!
And I don't know cate, sometimes it seems they'll never let that poor man go. And we will never as a nation stand up and tell the American government in no uncertain terms that their actions in this case have been appalling!
I notice today though the headline board for the papers are saying Kevin Rudd is at 63% popularity. Interesting! Maybe the times are a changing?

Wouldn't have guessed....

Last Exodus

Jeanie wrote:

:D I do so like your posts Scubascott!! Not just pretty pictures!! Smart and funny words too!

I have no confidence in Rudd not to take us down the same path as Johhny from a conservative religious standpoint! When are we going to get a real alternative that is clearly interested in separating Church and State? And you're right, Labors previous economic mismanagement is definitely cause for concern. But yeah, I'm sick of living in a country that keeps taking it up the kyber because our government keeps making easy access. I just hope we can recover from the damage done so far.

Yeah....Pretty funny. And now I have a new name for Anus....Kyber! G'DaY Australia! I never new I had a kyber until now....

Jeanie

Last Exodus wrote:

Hey man, Im just throwin it out there for y'all to discuss....

Which clearly we have been! Nice work too, Last Exodus, some folk have been trying to embroil me in the political threads for weeks now!!

Obviously all they had to do was mention Johhny!

Jeanie

Last Exodus wrote:

Wouldn't have guessed....

Well we are struggling here to keep our cultural and language from being over run by Americanisms. Not that there's anything wrong with America but we don't want to lose our own culture and heritage and language to crappy American examples. So I guess I feel I have an obligation to represent!!!