Support for Ron Paul 2008
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It seems to me that Ron Paul is the most legit candidate this go around
Unfortunatley he gets little to no publicity...
I thought since PJ is so Politically active that maybe this would be a place to raise awareness of his campaign.
I don't know if the band supports the man or not... but I do
just sharing my thoughts here.
Feel free to discuss
Unfortunatley he gets little to no publicity...
I thought since PJ is so Politically active that maybe this would be a place to raise awareness of his campaign.
I don't know if the band supports the man or not... but I do
just sharing my thoughts here.
Feel free to discuss
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I totally agree with you, and I actually submitted the bands contact information to one of the people in the campaign that was soliciting potential endorsements. Not sure if it will go anywhere though.
As for publicity, we need to make our own, this is why you see so much about Ron Paul on the internet, the regular media outlets not only ignore him, but also try to belittle his legitimacy as a candidate.
If anyone wants more information on Dr. Ron Paul and his campaign, I suggest the following sites:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com <-- the official campaign site
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/states/ <-- THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO RIGHT NOW to get Ron Paul elected is to make sure you are registered as a Republican (deadlines for doing so vary by state) and VOTE in your state primary. This site lets you click on your state and get all of the important info regarding your state's Primary date and party change dates.
http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com <-- awesome source for real time metrics on donations to the campaign, and other vital stats. very impressive collection of data.
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com <-- great source of news/info on Ron Paul updated multiple times daily
http://www.ronpaulforums.com <-- 8,630 Members, 5,222 Active Members, and over 1/2 million posts with over 42kthreads
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/ <-- go here to join the local Ron Paul meetup.com group and work with other supporters to get informed and get Ron nominated/elected
As for a good generic site on how the candidates are doing with their online campaigns, I suggest techpresident.com for some very insightful statistics and graphs on how the candidates stack up in terms of online presence, activity, and supporters:
http://www.techpresident.com/scrape_plot/myspace
http://www.techpresident.com/youtube
http://www.techpresident.com/scrape_plot/facebook
http://www.techpresident.com/scrape_plot/technorati
http://www.techpresident.com/scrape_plot/eventful
http://www.techpresident.com/scrape_plot/hitwise
http://www.techpresident.com/scrape_plot/meetup_supporter
There are plenty of other sites, but these are just a few that I find very informative, and I hope that everyone else does also.
Dont forget to support Ron Paul on December 16th which will likely be a record setting day for online donations. The last day like this was November 5th and raised $4.3M from many people like myself who never even donated $.01 to a candidate before. Info on that event can be found here:
http://www.teaparty07.com
You can also see what is happening on December 5th (tomorrow) in order to help with winning the NH primary, one of the most important primary states. Basically a Paul supporter who quit his job at Google to raise funds and get people to NH to campaign on Ron Paul's behalf...he is looking for $5 donations from as many as possible to help get people like himself set up and canvass the state for primary votes.
http://www.fiveforfreedom.com/
Anyway, I hope that this is all helpful and not just an overwhelming dump of information. I really think that Dr. Paul is a candadite that stands out well beyond any others out there, and I appreciate you taking the time to read this and learn more about the man.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com
sometimes you have to take the good with the bad...I mean that about the internet as a medium, not specifically about Paul.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com
ronpaul2008.com/gunowners
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/second-amendment/
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
and then there's this beauty
I am also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn.
All of this info came from Ron Pauls webpage. Sounds like a real candidate Pearl Jam would give their support too...
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Exactly. They are almost as bad as the 9/11 truthers. It's okay to be passionate about something, but when you get on the lunatic fringe of things you hurt your candidate and cause.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
So are a lot of policies he's fighting against. They're actually oppressive + obnoxious. Revolutions are exactly subtle
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Exactly. That's what freedom is about. Some like the spoon fed mindless media style better...it's got more Britney.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yeah, if someone supports a mainstream candidate they are obviously brainwashed.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Actually it depends which one, but generally yes. Anyone not fighting against the federal reserve is in fact brainwashed.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Do you know my friend? You seem to enjoy his beverage of choice, especially the Ron Paul flavor of the month.
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http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Thats weak, but anyway...the FED stealing from you and you're fine with it? They're the ones making the kool aid in case you haven't noticed...but that's just it....you haven't noticed. Take the time to find out how it works economically.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Gun control?
Immigration?
Womens right to choose?
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I don't agree with Ron Paul on every issue, gun control and abortion just to name two. What Ron Paul offers though is far greater than just those two issues. He would bring a decrease in federal spending and a decrease in the size of our government. This would bring the power back to the people and out of the hands of coporations and special interest groups. Ron Paul would get ride of the Federal reserve and bring back the gold standard which would help increase the value of our dollar and help our economy. Ron Paul would quit meddling in the internal affairs of other nations and repair our image among the global community. All of these thing would bring this country closer to the greatness it truely is. As for issue like abortion and gun control those can be dealt with but untill we take control back of our government those choices are not in our hands anyway.
Pales in comparison to the federal reserve. Get the biggest problem out of the way first and the rest can follow later. It's like trying to dry a car in the rain.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Do you think a Congress would let all of these things happen. Wouldn't something like eliminating the federal reserve have to go through Congress? If it doesn't have to, don't you think they'd pass something before he could do it to limit his power in that decision? He could veto it, but I'm positive there would be an veto proof Congress that would override that in a heartbeat.
Just thinking out loud.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
You are correct, he would have to go through Congress and some of the changes he would want to implament would be extremely difficult but the point is that he is the only candidate who wants to do these things. He one of the only candidates who actually speaks the truth regardless of how unpopular his ideas may be. He is the only candidate who wants to protect your liberties and the constitution. Yes he would have a hard time as president because Congress is full of bullshit politicians who only care about their agenda and maintaining the status quo but just because that is the case doesn't mean we should elect a president who would fight the good fight for the people who put him/her there.
As for issue such as abortion, yes I disagree with Ron Paul but Paul has stated that by overturning Roe v. Wade he would place the decision in the hands of the states (same with same sex marriage). While I disagree with his personal stance on abortion, he is correct in stating that the US government had no right intervening in this issue. It is a state issue and should be returned as such.
I don't think the process cannot be stopped without enacting strict military rule at this point. We'll see some additional indication in 11 days of what will begin to happen over the next year.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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They? Who is that?
Ron Paul has no chance to be elected and if he does he has no chance to even make the changes he speaks about. But at least he expresses his ideas and it gets people thinking about stuff, and making people think can only be good.
Dude....seriously. Seriously.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Roland I think that is a bit far fetched. If Paul does win the Republican nomination and the Presidency I highly doubt he will be assassinated. If you think about it many people, and even corporations, would gain from him being president.
A lot more than any of us on this board as far as protecting our liberties and the constitution.
i dont know what this means..but whatever i guess.
I think eventually Ron Paul supporters will favor starting an agricultural community in Guyana. I'm all for it.
It means that the man has constantly fought for civil liberties, the restoration of government back to the way it was intended by the constitution, and reducing uneccesary government spending of our tax dollars. That is more than any one of us on this board can say, or any other politicians for that fact.
I agree...and on top of that, as a congressman in Texas each of the 10 years he has served, at the end of the year he RETURNED THE EXTRA MONEY LEFT OVER FROM HIS BUDGET. THATS what he has done, he has proven that a government agency can spend within its means and be effective.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com
And most of it is based on the constitution...such a shame isnt it? Why would anyone want to enforce that thing, huh?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com
Hrm...
First priority, elect a President with some balls that understands what the Constitution is about and will enforce it.
Second priority, elect Senators and Congressman that will support the President.
Third priority, get rid of the corporate control of government and call out all the stooges for what they are.
You got to spend it all
There is always a chance...and that chance right now if FAR better than the chance he had 12 months ago.
You got to spend it all
Yup, I love the "he has no chance" crowd that likes to ignore that he has raised close to $11,000,000 from almost 125,000 individuals in this quarter alone. Sounds like a ton of people are ready to give him the chance by voting for him.
I mean dont get me wrong, Romney raised $17M...but the only problem there is that it all came from his own personal checking account, so it really tallys up to just one vote...not the 125,000 that Paul has. Although there is already enough video proof that Romney is buying votes in straw polls, so I guess I shouldnt rule that out.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com