I know you're not saying American obesity statistics are pretty black and white and therefore a reality that it also follows then, that all obese American women are lesbians as suggested by your friend there with the psychic ability. AND that the reason there are obese lesbians over represented in these stats is because they don't give a shit what men think because they're not wanting get jiggy with fellas anyway. Because that would have to be the biggest oversimplification I think I may have heard in a while.
i never saw anyone suggesting that all obese women are lesbians. nor do i recall seeing anyone seriously saying women only become lesbians because they're too far to get guys.
i posted in response to the dude asking about heavy girls at pearl jam shows. here in america, in ANY crowd most people are going to be heavy, male or female. that's just math.
I have polycystic ovarian syndrome. It's not a disease. I have been average weight about 1/2 my life and on the hefty side about 1/2, but not ridiculously so. I had a hard time losing it after my second kid. One of my daughters is a lesbian. The other is not. However, interestingly, she is left-handed, and handedness is also correlated with sexual orientation. Neither of my offspring has Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. Before pregnancy, I wondered if because *I* had higher than average testosterone, I would have a higher tendency to have females who were lesbian or males who were heterosexual, but much more highly aggressive than typical. Let's face it...swimming in a testosterone/androgen pool for nine formative months might have some effect. I am glad to say I had no boys, but only because I felt I would run a much higher risk of finding out about law enforcement and jails if I had had one. You know, my son would be the guy so freaked out you bumped him in the hall, he'd slug your mom and break your knees. So, all in all...I think it's a good thing I had girls where my biggest risk would be there would be entirely too many flannel shirts in the house. But, I liked early PJ, too, so...you know, I wouldn't really be running this big risk I couldn't handle.
I am heterosexual. My guess based on me then is that Polycyctic Ovarian Syndrome has no bearing on the sexuality of the person having the syndrome, but that it very well might on the offspring of that woman. Certainly, I've never met a lesbian who revealed to me she had the syndrome, but I've met a couple of heterosexual females who also have the syndrome. One correlation doesn't make a very good case, I'm aware. Still. I feel that it might because I once read that it seemed that males who "grew up" in a womb filled with higher than normal estrogen conditions seemed to demonstrate a tendency toward homosexuality. Also, males who are not first born definitely do demonstrate higher and higher tendencies towards homosexuality. For example, a 5th born son is much more likely to be gay than a first born. In my life, I do see such a correlation among gay males I know. That's hardly science, but it is an observation.
Also, I would like to state that I don't "care" why there are gay people--in the "let's fix them" sense, 'cuz they ain't broken--I'm just glad they're around. My life has certainly been much enriched by the gender-orientation spectrum I've come across than if everyone were cookie-cutter.
Actually depending on variations in symptoms and who you ask it is referred to as a disease in some cases.
Also, I got curious to investigate my theory further. That perhaps lesbian women are more likely to have weight problems because of things like hormone production and PCOS and it's affiliates and I found some interesting stuff.
Also regarding it being a disease and how it affects male offspring :
How is polycystic ovarian syndrome inherited?
We have known about the tendency for polycystic ovarian syndrome to occur in families for many years. Only recently have there been some studies suggesting how this condition may sometimes be inherited. One study from the United Kingdom found evidence that PCOS associated with male pattern baldness was probably inherited as an autosomal dominant trait, i.e., one half of the female offspring of a woman carrying this gene will have PCOS. Male members of these families have about a 20-25% incidence of premature balding. If you have 3 brothers and father without any baldness, you would actually only expect one of the 4 to be affected. Thus this situation is still consistent with a genetic cause in your case.
In some studies as many as 10% of women have anovulation and androgen excess that becomes labelled as PCOS. There is also a high incidence of insulin resistance syndrome that may progress to type 2 diabetes. One study looked at a group of women with PCOS and male pattern baldness and found that a gene for insulin resistance was highly related suggesting a genetic link between type 2 diabetes and PCOS.
I also make no judgement on a person based on their gender orientation, be that heterosexual, homosexual, transgender or any of the variations in between. A person's sexual orientation is their own business and certainly not a barrier to acceptance as far as I'm concerned.
i never saw anyone suggesting that all obese women are lesbians. nor do i recall seeing anyone seriously saying women only become lesbians because they're too far to get guys.
Ah well I guess it's all in the interpretation then.
i posted in response to the dude asking about heavy girls at pearl jam shows. here in america, in ANY crowd most people are going to be heavy, male or female. that's just math.
Actually according to the stats it's 25% of the American population isn't it?
That would calculate to 1 in every 4 people at a Pearl Jam concert or crowd in America and according to the Baker Institute (supposing you believe the validity of their study) it would be 26% or just over one in 4 at an Australian Pearl Jam concert or in an Australian crowd. You know, if you're truly interested in the math.
Actually depending on variations in symptoms and who you ask it is referred to as a disease in some cases.
Also, I got curious to investigate my theory further. That perhaps lesbian women are more likely to have weight problems because of things like hormone production and PCOS and it's affiliates and I found some interesting stuff.
Also regarding it being a disease and how it affects male offspring :
How is polycystic ovarian syndrome inherited?
We have known about the tendency for polycystic ovarian syndrome to occur in families for many years. Only recently have there been some studies suggesting how this condition may sometimes be inherited. One study from the United Kingdom found evidence that PCOS associated with male pattern baldness was probably inherited as an autosomal dominant trait, i.e., one half of the female offspring of a woman carrying this gene will have PCOS. Male members of these families have about a 20-25% incidence of premature balding. If you have 3 brothers and father without any baldness, you would actually only expect one of the 4 to be affected. Thus this situation is still consistent with a genetic cause in your case.
In some studies as many as 10% of women have anovulation and androgen excess that becomes labelled as PCOS. There is also a high incidence of insulin resistance syndrome that may progress to type 2 diabetes. One study looked at a group of women with PCOS and male pattern baldness and found that a gene for insulin resistance was highly related suggesting a genetic link between type 2 diabetes and PCOS.
I also make no judgement on a person based on their gender orientation, be that heterosexual, homosexual, transgender or any of the variations in between. A person's sexual orientation is their own business and certainly not a barrier to acceptance as far as I'm concerned.
Oh and for the record I have PCOS also.
My doctor said it was not a disease. I can live with it either way. There's no "cure." It neither killed me nor handicapped me, so it certainly doesn't seem like a disease. In fact, I like the syndrome since I am the among those of my friends who never had to worry about an unwanted pregnancy, although I'm supposed to enjoy a much higher libido than women without the syndrome. I'm not sure that's true, to be honest. But, so the literature says. (There was some slight trouble on the conception end, but a few pills fixed that.) I am aware that there is some inheritablity of the syndrome, but I suppose my mother didn't have it because I'm here--and I wasn't a child she prayed for (I'm adopted). Also, my doctor told me it was probably an inheritable condition, gosh, 35 years ago. So, I'm not sure how "recent" recent actually may be. Neither of my kids has it, as I said. Maybe it "skips a generation" and one of my granddaughters will have it, should I have any. If PCOS is inheritable, it makes sense that lesbians would have a higher incidence of it...they have a mother and inherit the syndrome. But I still think they're lesbians because of mom's womb, not because they have the syndrome. Nine months of high androgens during crucial formation...I think you have a smoking gun.
Also of interest, since you made me want to research:
I have this feature, sort of. My right ring finger is only slightly longer than my index finger. I have a masculine hand! I never knew it. I wonder how my husband will feel about that? lol! He's never had complaints in the past.
I looked at my lebsian daughter's right hand, and her right ring finger *is* almost not noticeably longer than her index finger! What do you know? You do actually learn stuff here on the board.
Also, sorry if I altered your original post somewhat. I lost track of changes in trying to get rid of "images" the board was prompting me to remove. I think they're the smilies, etc. Maybe women who have PCOS are more addicted to images than the average female. Just a hunch. I had to delete a ton from our posts combined!
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i never saw anyone suggesting that all obese women are lesbians. nor do i recall seeing anyone seriously saying women only become lesbians because they're too far to get guys.
i posted in response to the dude asking about heavy girls at pearl jam shows. here in america, in ANY crowd most people are going to be heavy, male or female. that's just math.
Actually depending on variations in symptoms and who you ask it is referred to as a disease in some cases.
http://www.wdxcyber.com/dxinf001.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000369.htm
Also, I got curious to investigate my theory further. That perhaps lesbian women are more likely to have weight problems because of things like hormone production and PCOS and it's affiliates and I found some interesting stuff.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s892229.htm
Also regarding it being a disease and how it affects male offspring :
How is polycystic ovarian syndrome inherited?
We have known about the tendency for polycystic ovarian syndrome to occur in families for many years. Only recently have there been some studies suggesting how this condition may sometimes be inherited. One study from the United Kingdom found evidence that PCOS associated with male pattern baldness was probably inherited as an autosomal dominant trait, i.e., one half of the female offspring of a woman carrying this gene will have PCOS. Male members of these families have about a 20-25% incidence of premature balding. If you have 3 brothers and father without any baldness, you would actually only expect one of the 4 to be affected. Thus this situation is still consistent with a genetic cause in your case.
In some studies as many as 10% of women have anovulation and androgen excess that becomes labelled as PCOS. There is also a high incidence of insulin resistance syndrome that may progress to type 2 diabetes. One study looked at a group of women with PCOS and male pattern baldness and found that a gene for insulin resistance was highly related suggesting a genetic link between type 2 diabetes and PCOS.
http://www.wdxcyber.com/napear02.htm
I also make no judgement on a person based on their gender orientation, be that heterosexual, homosexual, transgender or any of the variations in between. A person's sexual orientation is their own business and certainly not a barrier to acceptance as far as I'm concerned.
Oh and for the record I have PCOS also.
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Ah well I guess it's all in the interpretation then.
Actually according to the stats it's 25% of the American population isn't it?
That would calculate to 1 in every 4 people at a Pearl Jam concert or crowd in America and according to the Baker Institute (supposing you believe the validity of their study) it would be 26% or just over one in 4 at an Australian Pearl Jam concert or in an Australian crowd. You know, if you're truly interested in the math.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
My doctor said it was not a disease. I can live with it either way. There's no "cure." It neither killed me nor handicapped me, so it certainly doesn't seem like a disease. In fact, I like the syndrome since I am the among those of my friends who never had to worry about an unwanted pregnancy, although I'm supposed to enjoy a much higher libido than women without the syndrome. I'm not sure that's true, to be honest. But, so the literature says. (There was some slight trouble on the conception end, but a few pills fixed that.) I am aware that there is some inheritablity of the syndrome, but I suppose my mother didn't have it because I'm here--and I wasn't a child she prayed for (I'm adopted). Also, my doctor told me it was probably an inheritable condition, gosh, 35 years ago. So, I'm not sure how "recent" recent actually may be. Neither of my kids has it, as I said. Maybe it "skips a generation" and one of my granddaughters will have it, should I have any. If PCOS is inheritable, it makes sense that lesbians would have a higher incidence of it...they have a mother and inherit the syndrome. But I still think they're lesbians because of mom's womb, not because they have the syndrome. Nine months of high androgens during crucial formation...I think you have a smoking gun.
Also of interest, since you made me want to research:
http://www.webmd.com/news/20000329/pointing-finger-androgen-cause-homosexuality
I have this feature, sort of. My right ring finger is only slightly longer than my index finger. I have a masculine hand! I never knew it. I wonder how my husband will feel about that? lol! He's never had complaints in the past.
I looked at my lebsian daughter's right hand, and her right ring finger *is* almost not noticeably longer than her index finger! What do you know? You do actually learn stuff here on the board.
Also, sorry if I altered your original post somewhat. I lost track of changes in trying to get rid of "images" the board was prompting me to remove. I think they're the smilies, etc. Maybe women who have PCOS are more addicted to images than the average female. Just a hunch. I had to delete a ton from our posts combined!