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It's easy to call Americans stupid...

CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
...but it's difficult to say the same thing about other nationalities. This is because Americans could give a shit what other countries think. You type in "stupid americans" and you get a host of results, but you type in "stupid britons" and you get nothing. But, don't let that fool you: the British do have their own problems, as all countries do.

Britain has its own problems with education, especially that of white males.

"The report stresses that only 17 per cent of white working-class boys managed to gain five or more A to C grades at GCSE."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/15/nboys15.xml

That's the lowest of any group in Britain. The next highest is black-carribeans at 19%.

The poor white boys will end up being second-class citizens in their own country. Why? Their people were too busy making fun of stupid Americans to notice the stupid British in their own backyard.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Yea but, an A in the U.S. is equivelant to a C anywhere else :p
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Yea but, an A in the U.S. is equivelant to a C anywhere else :p

    But a job in America is worth more money than anywhere else.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I think it's endemic in the Western world. People are undoubtedly becoming stupider and stupider. Or is it ignorance? Is there a difference? And does the difference matter?
    Developing countries - i.e, India - appear to be producing a far higher rate of skilled, educated workers. How so? I suspect that people in the West have become brain dead by crappy t.v, shit manufatured pop music, and junk food.
    Who knows?
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Stupid foreigners can't even speak English properly. ;)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    But a job in America is worth more money than anywhere else.

    Another massively far reaching - to the point of being completely meaningless - generalization.
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I think it's endemic in the Western world. People are undoubtedly becoming stupider and stupider. Or is it ignorance? Is there a difference? And does the difference matter?
    Developing countries - i.e, India - appear to be producing a far higher rate of skilled, educated workers. How so? I suspect that people in the West have become brain dead by crappy t.v, shit manufatured pop music, and junk food.
    Who knows?

    A large problem is the vast number of poor people who are not being educated. Their numbers are growing through immigration from the third world and the welfare state.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I think it's endemic in the Western world. People are undoubtedly becoming stupider and stupider. Or is it ignorance? Is there a difference? And does the difference matter?
    Developing countries - i.e, India - appear to be producing a far higher rate of skilled, educated workers. How so? I suspect that people in the West have become brain dead by crappy t.v, shit manufatured pop music, and junk food.
    Who knows?

    I think it's because we are too worried about a person's tender feelings to properly educate them.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    zstillings wrote:
    I think it's because we are too worried about a person's tender feelings to properly educate them.
    I think you're right, there; but I don't think that's the only problem. As far as I know (and I could be wrong), public schools are funded primarily by their local tax-bases; and that leads to poor schools in poor neighborhoods - leading to cross-generational poverty (there are other reasons for cross-generational poverty, but this is about schools).
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    A large problem is the vast number of poor people who are not being educated. Their numbers are growing through immigration from the third world and the welfare state.

    So why aren't poor people being educated, whether they happen to have come from abroad or not?
    Maybe because most tax-payers money is being spent killing brown people in foreign lands, causing more immigration.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    RainDog wrote:
    I think you're right, there; but I don't think that's the only problem. As far as I know (and I could be wrong), public schools are funded primarily by their local tax-bases; and that leads to poor schools in poor neighborhoods - leading to cross-generational poverty (there are other reasons for cross-generational poverty, but this is about schools).

    I would say that you are partly right as well. I think more needs to be done to allow students with parents willing to transport them, to be able to attend schools further from their houses, private schools being more of a realistic option for the children coming from lower income areas and more power given to local PTA's rather than the teachers' unions.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Another massively far reaching - to the point of being completely meaningless - generalization.

    They cant call us stupid americans and well make fun of them for being weak....
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Stupid and Ignorant are the same thing in my opinion.

    Although if a child's brain isn't stimulated it won't develop the cognitive processes we expect. The onus is on society to make people smart.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Byrnzie wrote:
    So why aren't poor people being educated, whether they happen to have come from abroad or not?
    Maybe because most tax-payers money is being spent killing brown people in foreign lands, causing more immigration.

    http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    ...but it's difficult to say the same thing about other nationalities. This is because Americans could give a shit what other countries think. You type in "stupid americans" and you get a host of results, but you type in "stupid britons" and you get nothing. But, don't let that fool you: the British do have their own problems, as all countries do.

    Britain has its own problems with education, especially that of white males.

    "The report stresses that only 17 per cent of white working-class boys managed to gain five or more A to C grades at GCSE."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/15/nboys15.xml

    That's the lowest of any group in Britain. The next highest is black-carribeans at 19%.

    The poor white boys will end up being second-class citizens in their own country. Why? Their people were too busy making fun of stupid Americans to notice the stupid British in their own backyard.

    of course we're stupid. why do you think everyone runs to us when they're in trouble? we're stupid enough to help everyone else.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    zstillings wrote:
    I would say that you are partly right as well. I think more needs to be done to allow students with parents willing to transport them, to be able to attend schools further from their houses, private schools being more of a realistic option for the children coming from lower income areas and more power given to local PTA's rather than the teachers' unions.
    Then what of the children who's parents are unable to transport them? My solution would be to broaden the tax pool, perhaps making it state-wide. Then, for the first few years, apply a slightly higher percentage of the funds to the poor, dilapidated school systems in order to bring them up to speed. After that, apply the funds equally across the board on a per student basis.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    miller8966 wrote:
    They cant call us stupid americans and well make fun of them for being weak....


    lol!!! You're not helping our image in this particular post.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    puremagic wrote:
    lol!!! You're not helping our image in this particular post.

    lol. That is exactly what I was thinking when I read that same post.
    E8toX.gif

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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    RainDog wrote:
    Then what of the children who's parents are unable to transport them? My solution would be to broaden the tax pool, perhaps making it state-wide. Then, for the first few years, apply a slightly higher percentage of the funds to the poor, dilapidated school systems in order to bring them up to speed. After that, apply the funds equally across the board on a per student basis.

    I could agree with the funding being statewide (a lot of funding already comes from that in many states) as long as the state can resist the temptation of taking over all day-to-day operations of schools. The real problem with public schools is that they are government run and, as such, are inefficient at providing their service. The government is not run based on common sense and keeping in mind differences between people but applies its "help" across the board basically "fixing" something that was, in many cases, never broken to begin with.
  • Matt8townsendMatt8townsend Posts: 112
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    A large problem is the vast number of poor people who are not being educated. Their numbers are growing through immigration from the third world and the welfare state.

    Mmmm, thank you for the insightful discetion of the state of my countries education system.

    Like the vast majority of Britains's state sponsored instituations, our education system took a severe beating during 18 years of Conservative misgovernance (but escaped in far better shape than the battered and underfunded NHS). These problems have been gradually (and I do mean very gradually) easing courtesy of the increased funding provided by Blair's Labour government (whom I am by no means a supporter of but who are legitimately investing great effort and money in re-establishing a world class education sytem) and a remarkable period of sustained economic growth under Gordon Brown's stewardship, made all the more impressive for the fact that the strongest economies in the rest of the Western world have suffered acute recessions from which Britain had been able to remain immune (the United States under the inept fumblings of its current theocracy, and Germany under a contrastingly central left alliance to name but two examples).

    Contrary to somebody elses post somehere in this thread, a job in America is not worth more money than anywhere else, as the last time I visited the states or checked the exchange rates the pound was in by far the ascendent position.

    As for your anti-immigrationist point (do you import the Daily Mail?), Britain makes a net profit on its annual GDP from it's relatively open immigration policy - an economic fact that beguiles more than enough xenophobes on our own little island without us having to suffer the irritance of you chipping in. And more of these immigrants are intrinsically linked to the welfare state by being employed within it than they are by being 'propped up' by taking handouts from it. The vast numbers of immigrants who are employed within the NHS (from cleaners to neurologists) has been essential in the preservation of what in my opinion is one of our proudest and most admirable institutaions.

    And this post comes from somebody who is a natural opponent of both Tony Blair and the very concept of patriotism in general. But perhaps when you start to eduacte your own poor (beyond peddling the myth of creationism, the oath of alliegance and the boundless opportunites of being sacrificed to the armed forces that is) and provide adequate and affordable medical treatment to your own citizens you can start to lecture us Brits on how best to run our own affairs. And if you're from Texas, I'm sure Blair for one would be more than happy to listen.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    zstillings wrote:
    Stupid foreigners can't even speak English properly. ;)


    There is a reason why you wanted to distance yourself from the king and queen. History books show one of the reasons was your lack of understanding, using and spelling proper English. :)

    Some of you complained about ebonics but your version of English is broken down just as bad. ;)
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Matt8townsendMatt8townsend Posts: 112
    The poor white boys will end up being second-class citizens in their own country. Why? Their people were too busy making fun of stupid Americans to notice the stupid British in their own backyard.[/quote]

    And as a 'white boy' living in Britain I can assure you I have never felt opressed or marginalised. Perhaps I am not insecure or concieted enough. in my experience the only 'poor' white males who ever express this notion are those who feel that they should be considered naturally superior to women, blacks and anyone else who they don't consider to belong to their own particluar little in-group.

    Which is pretty pathetic whatever country you're in.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    ...but it's difficult to say the same thing about other nationalities. This is because Americans could give a shit what other countries think. You type in "stupid americans" and you get a host of results, but you type in "stupid britons" and you get nothing. But, don't let that fool you: the British do have their own problems, as all countries do.

    Britain has its own problems with education, especially that of white males.

    "The report stresses that only 17 per cent of white working-class boys managed to gain five or more A to C grades at GCSE."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/15/nboys15.xml

    That's the lowest of any group in Britain. The next highest is black-carribeans at 19%.

    The poor white boys will end up being second-class citizens in their own country. Why? Their people were too busy making fun of stupid Americans to notice the stupid British in their own backyard.

    If you couldn't give a shit what other countries think, you wouldn't have posted this.

    And I don't think Americans are more stupid than the rest of the educated world.
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    ...but it's difficult to say the same thing about other nationalities. This is because Americans could give a shit what other countries think. You type in "stupid americans" and you get a host of results, but you type in "stupid britons" and you get nothing.

    Ha! Try this
    http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=stupid+americans&word2=stupid+french
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    But a job in America is worth more money than anywhere else.

    Not if you're talking minimum wage work.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cutback wrote:
    http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

    That pretty much sums it up.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Matt8townsend wrote:
    Mmmm, thank you for the insightful discetion of the state of my countries education system.

    Like the vast majority of Britains's state sponsored instituations, our education system took a severe beating during 18 years of Conservative misgovernance (but escaped in far better shape than the battered and underfunded NHS). These problems have been gradually (and I do mean very gradually) easing courtesy of the increased funding provided by Blair's Labour government (whom I am by no means a supporter of but who are legitimately investing great effort and money in re-establishing a world class education sytem) and a remarkable period of sustained economic growth under Gordon Brown's stewardship, made all the more impressive for the fact that the strongest economies in the rest of the Western world have suffered acute recessions from which Britain had been able to remain immune (the United States under the inept fumblings of its current theocracy, and Germany under a contrastingly central left alliance to name but two examples).

    Contrary to somebody elses post somehere in this thread, a job in America is not worth more money than anywhere else, as the last time I visited the states or checked the exchange rates the pound was in by far the ascendent position.

    As for your anti-immigrationist point (do you import the Daily Mail?), Britain makes a net profit on its annual GDP from it's relatively open immigration policy - an economic fact that beguiles more than enough xenophobes on our own little island without us having to suffer the irritance of you chipping in. And more of these immigrants are intrinsically linked to the welfare state by being employed within it than they are by being 'propped up' by taking handouts from it. The vast numbers of immigrants who are employed within the NHS (from cleaners to neurologists) has been essential in the preservation of what in my opinion is one of our proudest and most admirable institutaions.

    And this post comes from somebody who is a natural opponent of both Tony Blair and the very concept of patriotism in general. But perhaps when you start to eduacte your own poor (beyond peddling the myth of creationism, the oath of alliegance and the boundless opportunites of being sacrificed to the armed forces that is) and provide adequate and affordable medical treatment to your own citizens you can start to lecture us Brits on how best to run our own affairs. And if you're from Texas, I'm sure Blair for one would be more than happy to listen.

    I couldn't have put it better!
  • searchlightsoulsearchlightsoul Posts: 583
    You re-elected Bush. Those who didn't vote are stupid but those that voted for Bush are even stupider.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    searchlightsoul wrote:
    You re-elected Bush. Those who didn't vote are stupid but those that voted for Bush are even stupider.

    I see that it was the manipulation of the natural deep-seated fears that exist within the human condition that has kept people on board with the administration.
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    This is because Americans could give a shit what other countries think.

    its "couldn't give a shit" not "could give a shit"... this is exactly the kind of thing that does actually make us 'Britons' think you are stupid...

    :rolleyes:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    dunkman1974 wrote:
    its "couldn't give a shit" not "could give a shit"... this is exactly the kind of thing that does actually make us 'Britons' think you are stupid...

    :rolleyes:
    Oh yeah? Well it's exactly THIS type of thing that could make us 'North Americans' think you 'Britons' are anal! :rolleyes: ;)
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    even flow? wrote:
    There is a reason why you wanted to distance yourself from the king and queen. History books show one of the reasons was your lack of understanding, using and spelling proper English. :)

    Some of you complained about ebonics but your version of English is broken down just as bad. ;)

    Okay Canada boy..."oo" and "ou" should be pronounced differently. ;)
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