What is a Nation?

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    I don't really believe in nationalism. I wish it would go away.

    amen to that.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I define a nation as a group of people bonded by shared culture, language, religion, and/or race. I believe there is a race of Americans that goes beyond ethnicity.

    I'm half irish, part english russian polish scottish etc. But I'm an American.

    When I say "One nation, under God," I see that nation as American. I believe an American speaks english, is protestant/catholic/jewish, and has an attachment to their homeland and other Americans. An American has a bond with the land he grew up on and its people. An American knows our history and culture. They speak a certain way and know certain facets about our people that a visiting foreigner could never understand.

    There are people who live in America that do not fall under these criteria. I really don't feel they are a part of my nation. "Hyphenated-Americans" are not American. People that identify their nation of origin before America are not Americans - they should go back to their country. You can either be Dutch or you can be American.

    The reason a national identity is important is that a country cannot stand on weak ideological moors. Anyone can't be an American, it takes time and education about our culture and way of life. Men fought in WWII because they were fighting for their way of life - not for vapid things like our "shared economy" or "liberty." They were defending their country and its people.

    When you don't expect your immigrants to assimilate, you cannot expect them to care about their country beyond the financial benefits that come from living there. Real Americans care more about our shared experience and culture than they care about the money they can make here. The immigrants care about coming here, making money, and sending it back to their "home country." I say, go back to your home country.

    cmon, you know you dont consider jews and catholics to be on equal footing with the WASPS.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    cmon, you know you dont consider jews and catholics to be on equal footing with the WASPS.

    You're right, I'm a Catholic. I consider Catholics to be better than everyone else :D
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I consider Catholics to be better than everyone else :D

    Why am I not suprised by this answer.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Anyone that doesn't agree with my view of reality has lower intelligence.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Anyone that doesn't agree with my view of reality has lower intelligence.
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I consider Catholics to be better than everyone else

    Why would you say something like this? We didn't add anything to the Posting Guidelines about personal insults being ok now.

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Kat wrote:
    Why would you say something like this? We didn't add anything to the Posting Guidelines about personal insults being ok now.

    Admin

    Sorry, I was just being sarcastic in a general sense, it wasn't targeted at anyone. I slept only 4 hours and I'm bored. :(

    I guess I have a few billion billion apologies to deliver.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Sorry, I was just being sarcastic in a general sense, it wasn't targeted at anyone. I slept only 4 hours and I'm bored. :(

    I guess I have a few billion billion apologies to deliver.

    ill take mine first!
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    You're right, I'm a Catholic. I consider Catholics to be better than everyone else :D

    ill admit im surprised by this. ive never heard a catholic who had such a disgust for the poor. the catholics ive known have always tended towards the more charitable end of the spectrum.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    soulsinging wrote:
    ill admit im surprised by this. ive never heard a catholic who had such a disgust for the poor. the catholics ive known have always tended towards the more charitable end of the spectrum.

    He's not a Catholic. He's Dr Strangelove. ;)
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Byrnzie wrote:
    He's not a Catholic. He's Dr Strangelove. ;)

    LOL :D:D
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I define a nation as a group of people bonded by shared culture, language, religion, and/or race.

    With that definition, America has never existed at all.
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Kat wrote:
    Why would you say something like this? We didn't add anything to the Posting Guidelines about personal insults being ok now.

    Admin

    "You're right, I'm a Catholic. I consider Catholics to be better than everyone else :)"

    You forgot the smiley face!! Sorry if my meaning was misconstrued, but I certainly meant no harm. Just making an ironic joke is all! Let's all be friends!
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    soulsinging wrote:
    ill admit im surprised by this. ive never heard a catholic who had such a disgust for the poor. the catholics ive known have always tended towards the more charitable end of the spectrum.

    Favoring massive government spending for the poor is not what being Catholic is all about.

    One can be a great supporter of the free market and still be a good Catholic.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Read some Benedict Anderson.

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