Because government has always been corrupted by corporate interests. We as a society can actually participate in our democracy and hold our elected officials accountable...that's why it hasn't worked in the past. We allow bad people and half ass programs to stay in place instead of working to provide better ones.
Don't you see? There will never be a "best" program. Liberals will always be searching for "better" programs. It will never end.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
and then we have christian fundies like you...so what?
I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm a Catholic. Catholics take an allegorical view as well as a literal view of scripture and also believe that tradition informs our spiritual life.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Be sure that the help you are offering is not more damaging than if you had just left it alone in the first place.
Of course, but I just don't view the word government as a bad word signifying evil...it all depends on what the government is doing...not the term government in general.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I said communities should help one another. What is it that liberals don't understand about federalism? It's such a simple concept yet on this message board I've fielded numerous posts just like yours asking me "OMG HOW WILL THEY LIVE IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESNT HELP THEM????/// YOU'RE NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN MORAL RELIGIOUS BULLSHIT WHHAAAAA."
I do not live in a community with New Orleans. Louisiana people live in a community with New Orleans people. Therefore, Louisiana people should help one another. This is what I was referring to.
When I said, "Not my problem," I meant that it truly was not my problem. You see, New Orleans does not reside in Virginia. My state tax dollars would not go to building levies for them because I do not live in Louisiana. They would go towards building a levy in Virginia. But, you see, Virginia does not have this issue and that is why I live in Virginia. Because it is not below sea level. I've put some thought into where I live, unlike New Orleans people.
You claimed you were a Republican but your insistence that my help come in the form of the national government is complete and utter liberalism. My help should come in the form of state help. The federal government routinely fucks shit like this up, as we've noted time and time again.
So, if I have to field another dumbass comment regarding my federalist views on New Orleans, then I think that will be ample proof that there are people on this message board who are border-line retarded.
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Okay... you and I see the world completely differently.
I view all of America as part of 'My Community'. I consider all americans as my neighbor. When New Orleans or New York (or Virginia) is in trouble... I see my fellow Americans in need. So.... I toss in what I can.
Now, since the city of Cypress, California does not have heavy lifters, such as UH-60s, UH-64s, C-130s or C-17s... we would have to rely on the U.S. air Force and U.S. Army to supply the transports. I will be down on the tarmac, unloading trucks and loading aircraft to get the stuff onto the aircraft... but, it'll take a Federal Employee (soldier) to fly the thing.
Now... if Lousiana or New York or Virginia want to pass specific laws regarding gun control or abortion or golf... I'm not going to interfere. Let the people of Louisiana, New York and Virginia decide (just as I expect the rest of the nation let Californians vote for or against what we want).
So... yeah... I consider all of my states as part of my country... even if I will never set foot in most of them. I want them to decide what they want.. but, I want us all to help those who need help.
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Again... if you don't want to help... don't.
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P.S. If I were you... I'd book an appointment with your doctor to get that stick up your ass, sideways...removed. I don't care how it got there... I'm just concerned and think you need to have it removed.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Okay... you and I see the world completely differently.
I view all of America as part of 'My Community'. I consider all americans as my neighbor. When New Orleans or New York (or Virginia) is in trouble... I see my fellow Americans in need. So.... I toss in what I can.
Now, since the city of Cypress, California does not have heavy lifters, such as UH-60s, UH-64s, C-130s or C-17s... we would have to rely on the U.S. air Force and U.S. Army to supply the transports. I will be down on the tarmac, unloading trucks and loading aircraft to get the stuff onto the aircraft... but, it'll take a Federal Employee (soldier) to fly the thing.
Now... if Lousiana or New York or Virginia want to pass specific laws regarding gun control or abortion or golf... I'm not going to interfere. Let the people of Louisiana, New York and Virginia decide (just as I expect the rest of the nation let Californians vote for or against what we want).
So... yeah... I consider all of my states as part of my country... even if I will never set foot in most of them. I want them to decide what they want.. but, I want us all to help those who need help.
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Again... if you don't want to help... don't.
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P.S. If I were you... I'd book an appointment with your doctor to get that stick up your ass, sideways...removed. I don't care how it got there... I'm just concerned and think you need to have it removed.
You can't give real life examples and expect them to do any good or get a logical response. Instead of debating or discussing your points, he will respond in vague platitudes about how we have to pull up our bootstraps and fend for ourselves, or go off on a tangent about colonial life and how they took care of their own.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
he will respond in vague platitudes about how we have to pull up our bootstraps and fend for ourselves, or go off on a tangent about colonial life and how they took care of their own.
You guys really just need to rely on your own efforts instead of expecting the government to take care of you for everything.
The colonists were able to fend for themselves and they defeated the greatest empire in the world, at the time.
And neither of these points are untrue.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Don't you see? There will never be a "best" program. Liberals will always be searching for "better" programs. It will never end.
unlike the war on drugs and war on terror? how much have they grown? how many new government jobs and laws have been created for them? how much money does it get and how much does it increase every year?
stop being so blindly partisan
oh, and you claim now bush is a raging liberal....does that make you feel foolish that you got banned for flipping out when we posted pics of bush playing a guitar and eating a cake days after katrina and threatened to get a few other guys and beat up a girl....all in defense of a raging liberal?
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
There once was a prince named George, whose father was once a king. At least, in George's mind. And little George saw his father meet with kings and go to far off places and little George thought this was really cool.
Until little George grew up and got drunk and high on coke.
And then little George didn't think it was all that great to be king. So he bought baseball teams and oil companies instead. And he was content.
For a while.
But then he saw his little brother Jeb become famous in Florida and decided that he'd like to govern a state too. And so he did. And while he was governing he made sure to execute over 172 prisoners. And throw a ball now and then.
Meanwhile, little George found Christ and stopped drinking and snorting (or so he says) and found a sweet little librarian wife who would make a great first lady, so little George decided it was well nigh on time for him to become Presnent too, just like his daddy. And Little George did just that.
But daddy wanted to keep him in check and give him some credbillity, so he asked his friend Cheney to help govern his wild little son.
Cheney had plans of his own and saw a very credible little puppet in his grasp, and, well....the rest is history. They made a War on Drugs, complete with a Drug Czar. They made a War on Terror, complete with a bunch of New America and Halliburton and KBR friends, who helped him appoint a War Czar. And they all made lots of money and lived happily ever after.
oh, and you claim now bush is a raging liberal....does that make you feel foolish that you got banned for flipping out when we posted pics of bush playing a guitar and eating a cake days after katrina and threatened to get a few other guys and beat up a girl....all in defense of a raging liberal?
Well, never let it be said CorporateHero isn't for equal rights....
There seems to be a common thread among mainstream Republicans to hoist Bush on to the liberal pile - as if all "liberal" means is "gov'ment does stuff." I can't say I blame 'em. I mean, who hasn't occasionally tossed trash into their neighbor's yard - or plowed a rusted Malibu through the side wall.
You guys really just need to rely on your own efforts instead of expecting the government to take care of you for everything.
The colonists were able to fend for themselves and they defeated the greatest empire in the world, at the time.
And neither of these points are untrue.
But we're not in colonial times anymore... you remind me of a 70 year old guy who keeps harping on the good old days.
Colonies (more like towns/settlements within the colonies) were able to fend for themselves because they were much smaller population-wise, and they were isolated, so they had to take care of each other. Besides just being more helpful people then, they had a stake in everyone's well being around them. If Jim's wife got sick, everyone pitched in and helped because Jim was the town blacksmith, so without him working they'd be screwed... If the Smith's farm burnt down everyone helped him because he was sold food that everyone needed, etc. Nowadays, if the corner store burns down, there are hundreds of other places to get what you need, so it's not a huge impact on your life and you are much less inclined to help.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
unlike the war on drugs and war on terror? how much have they grown? how many new government jobs and laws have been created for them? how much money does it get and how much does it increase every year?
oh, and you claim now bush is a raging liberal....does that make you feel foolish that you got banned for flipping out when we posted pics of bush playing a guitar and eating a cake days after katrina and threatened to get a few other guys and beat up a girl....all in defense of a raging liberal?
LOL, yer a psycho.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
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Don't you see? There will never be a "best" program. Liberals will always be searching for "better" programs. It will never end.
-Enoch Powell
I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm a Catholic. Catholics take an allegorical view as well as a literal view of scripture and also believe that tradition informs our spiritual life.
-Enoch Powell
You're right...society's problems will never end. I do like searching for a better way to help with those problems.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Be sure that the help you are offering is not more damaging than if you had just left it alone in the first place.
-Enoch Powell
Of course, but I just don't view the word government as a bad word signifying evil...it all depends on what the government is doing...not the term government in general.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Okay... you and I see the world completely differently.
I view all of America as part of 'My Community'. I consider all americans as my neighbor. When New Orleans or New York (or Virginia) is in trouble... I see my fellow Americans in need. So.... I toss in what I can.
Now, since the city of Cypress, California does not have heavy lifters, such as UH-60s, UH-64s, C-130s or C-17s... we would have to rely on the U.S. air Force and U.S. Army to supply the transports. I will be down on the tarmac, unloading trucks and loading aircraft to get the stuff onto the aircraft... but, it'll take a Federal Employee (soldier) to fly the thing.
Now... if Lousiana or New York or Virginia want to pass specific laws regarding gun control or abortion or golf... I'm not going to interfere. Let the people of Louisiana, New York and Virginia decide (just as I expect the rest of the nation let Californians vote for or against what we want).
So... yeah... I consider all of my states as part of my country... even if I will never set foot in most of them. I want them to decide what they want.. but, I want us all to help those who need help.
...
Again... if you don't want to help... don't.
...
P.S. If I were you... I'd book an appointment with your doctor to get that stick up your ass, sideways...removed. I don't care how it got there... I'm just concerned and think you need to have it removed.
Hail, Hail!!!
You can't give real life examples and expect them to do any good or get a logical response. Instead of debating or discussing your points, he will respond in vague platitudes about how we have to pull up our bootstraps and fend for ourselves, or go off on a tangent about colonial life and how they took care of their own.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
You guys really just need to rely on your own efforts instead of expecting the government to take care of you for everything.
The colonists were able to fend for themselves and they defeated the greatest empire in the world, at the time.
And neither of these points are untrue.
-Enoch Powell
unlike the war on drugs and war on terror? how much have they grown? how many new government jobs and laws have been created for them? how much money does it get and how much does it increase every year?
stop being so blindly partisan
oh, and you claim now bush is a raging liberal....does that make you feel foolish that you got banned for flipping out when we posted pics of bush playing a guitar and eating a cake days after katrina and threatened to get a few other guys and beat up a girl....all in defense of a raging liberal?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
There once was a prince named George, whose father was once a king. At least, in George's mind. And little George saw his father meet with kings and go to far off places and little George thought this was really cool.
Until little George grew up and got drunk and high on coke.
And then little George didn't think it was all that great to be king. So he bought baseball teams and oil companies instead. And he was content.
For a while.
But then he saw his little brother Jeb become famous in Florida and decided that he'd like to govern a state too. And so he did. And while he was governing he made sure to execute over 172 prisoners. And throw a ball now and then.
Meanwhile, little George found Christ and stopped drinking and snorting (or so he says) and found a sweet little librarian wife who would make a great first lady, so little George decided it was well nigh on time for him to become Presnent too, just like his daddy. And Little George did just that.
But daddy wanted to keep him in check and give him some credbillity, so he asked his friend Cheney to help govern his wild little son.
Cheney had plans of his own and saw a very credible little puppet in his grasp, and, well....the rest is history. They made a War on Drugs, complete with a Drug Czar. They made a War on Terror, complete with a bunch of New America and Halliburton and KBR friends, who helped him appoint a War Czar. And they all made lots of money and lived happily ever after.
The End.
There seems to be a common thread among mainstream Republicans to hoist Bush on to the liberal pile - as if all "liberal" means is "gov'ment does stuff." I can't say I blame 'em. I mean, who hasn't occasionally tossed trash into their neighbor's yard - or plowed a rusted Malibu through the side wall.
But we're not in colonial times anymore... you remind me of a 70 year old guy who keeps harping on the good old days.
Colonies (more like towns/settlements within the colonies) were able to fend for themselves because they were much smaller population-wise, and they were isolated, so they had to take care of each other. Besides just being more helpful people then, they had a stake in everyone's well being around them. If Jim's wife got sick, everyone pitched in and helped because Jim was the town blacksmith, so without him working they'd be screwed... If the Smith's farm burnt down everyone helped him because he was sold food that everyone needed, etc. Nowadays, if the corner store burns down, there are hundreds of other places to get what you need, so it's not a huge impact on your life and you are much less inclined to help.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
End the war on drugs for all I care.
LOL, yer a psycho.
-Enoch Powell