What if the election came down to...

CorporateWhore

mammasan wrote:

not to be picky but corporatewhores political views are not that of a Republican but that of a Libertarian. By advocating the protection of individual rights does not equate to that person being selfish or not having any concern for their fellow man.

I would love to see every man, woman, and child in this country with healthcare coverage, but I would fight tooth and nail to make sure that it was not in the hands of our government. I am more than willing to aid my less fortunate neighbors but it should be by choice and not forced upon me by taking it from my paycheck and managed by a corrupt inept over bloated bureacracy known as the US federal government.

When the government took the place of the community as the purveyor of aid, that was a sad day.

Ideally, people could help eachother directly. Gone are the days of going to a neighbor or getting a tab at the grocery store. People simply don't trust eachother anymore. We should be helping one another and we don't need a wasteful government to do it.

The government has created this environment where we are afraid to come out of our houses and ask our neighbors how they're doing. This impersonal society we have is based on the government treating everyone like a number.

CorporateWhore

LoveRock333 wrote:

Sure, go polish the gun that does not need to be fired.

I thought Christians were non violent?

Guess I was wrong.

Haha of course because every time a gun is fired then violence has occurred.

Rhinocerous Surprise

CorporateWhore wrote:

Haha of course because every time a gun is fired then violence has occurred.

Would you trust a "dangerous" atheist with a handgun?:p

LoveRock333

CorporateWhore wrote:

Haha of course because every time a gun is fired then violence has occurred.

So you use your gun to switch off lightbulbs and open beer cans?

Maybe you use it to just tuck in your kids at night?

Oh, I know, you use it to bring back the dead! Just one shot and it's a ressurection!

Hey everybody! Corporate Whore has a ressurection gun!
Road trip to Ground Zero! But first stop my back yard where I buried my bunny rabbit!

See, I can be sarcastic too.

mammasan

CorporateWhore wrote:

When the government took the place of the community as the purveyor of aid, that was a sad day.

Ideally, people could help eachother directly. Gone are the days of going to a neighbor or getting a tab at the grocery store. People simply don't trust eachother anymore. We should be helping one another and we don't need a wasteful government to do it.

The government has created this environment where we are afraid to come out of our houses and ask our neighbors how they're doing. This impersonal society we have is based on the government treating everyone like a number.

A lot of the social programs people depend on today can be easily provided on a community by community basis. Our society has become so dependent on the government that it is truly sickening. I understand that government is a necessary evil in our lives for such things as national defense, interstate commerce, and to forge one strong economy instead of 50 individual small to struggling economies, but beyond that point there is very little need for a federal government. All else can be accomplished on a state level and/or a community level.

CorporateWhore

LoveRock333 wrote:

See, I can be sarcastic too.

Or maybe psychotic...

bunny rabbits and resurrection?

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Rhinocerous Surprise

CorporateWhore wrote:

Or maybe psychotic...

bunny rabbits and resurrection?

...

Ahem... "God"?

CorporateWhore

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Ahem... "God"?

Where does He come in?

Rhinocerous Surprise

CorporateWhore wrote:

Where does He come in?

Just joking you up, guy!

I don't want to have to explain the joke (that always ruins things) so we'll just move past it.:D

LoveRock333

CorporateWhore wrote:

Or maybe psychotic...

bunny rabbits and resurrection?

...

And you believe in the all powerful being?

*in Canadian accent*
Yeah, okay, sure. I'm crazy, okay.

Kann

CorporateWhore wrote:

American liberals are indeed socialist. Universal healthcare is just the beginning for them.

Yeah. Ok. Never leave the us then, you'll be in for a real surprise.

They are well-versed in the teachings of Marx; namely, that one must first have capitalism before they can reach socialism.

haha. Did you even read marx before saying that? Last time I checked I understood a revolution was the first step in achieving socialism, not capitalism.

godpt3

If it came down to Paul vs. Hillary, I'd get all my affairs in order, ride out into the sunset and say, "got a gun, 'fact I got two..."

CorporateWhore

Kann wrote:

Yeah. Ok. Never leave the us then, you'll be in for a real surprise.


haha. Did you even read marx before saying that? Last time I checked I understood a revolution was the first step in achieving socialism, not capitalism.

Apparently you have not read Marx.

Marx believed capitalism was good because the only way to reach socialism was through capitalism. The masses must be oppressed under capitalism long enough until they decide to rise up.

Read Marx. You kann do it!

Rushlimbo

CorporateWhore wrote:

When the government took the place of the community as the purveyor of aid, that was a sad day.

Ideally, people could help eachother directly. Gone are the days of going to a neighbor or getting a tab at the grocery store. People simply don't trust eachother anymore. We should be helping one another and we don't need a wasteful government to do it.

The government has created this environment where we are afraid to come out of our houses and ask our neighbors how they're doing. This impersonal society we have is based on the government treating everyone like a number.

Do you blame everything on the government? What a cheap copout.

Kann

CorporateWhore wrote:

Apparently you have not read Marx.

Marx believed capitalism was good because the only way to reach socialism was through capitalism. The masses must be oppressed under capitalism long enough until they decide to rise up.

Read Marx. You kann do it!

Marx capitalism is not what you are witnessing today. At the time most regimes practising "capitalism" were anti-democratic. So it wasn't really capitalism, more like an aristocratic form of a market, it didn't have much to do with liberals today.
And marx bores me, regardless of your great jokes.

CorporateWhore

Rushlimbo wrote:

Do you blame everything on the government? What a cheap copout.

And don't forget the people who like to grow the government as well.

Cosmo

CorporateWhore wrote:

Bush IS a liberal!!!!!!!!!

Did you not read my LBJ vs. Bush post?

Liberals do not respect the constitution because the interstate commerce clause and the general welfare clause DO NOT give congress the authority to make laws on every aspect of our lives. That is not how the framers intended the constitution to be read.

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Sorry, Amigo...
As much as you hate Liberals/Democrats/Left Wingers... you can't palm off Bush on them. Be true to the truth... Bush is a Republican... a Neo-Conservative who tows the Project for the New American Century's line. He was voted in by Republicans and supported by the majority of Republicans.
I was one of the few Republicans who opposed Bush from the beginning.... not because I forsaw the war or his expansion of an intrusive government... but, because I was afraid that 2 of the Supreme Court seats would be up for appointments in the 2000-2004 term... 3 seats in the 2000-2008 period. I didn't want appointments attached to the Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson ass-backwards to the imaginary world of 1950s television sitcoms agenda to influence the highest court in the land.
Since then, I have asked the question... what's Conservative about a gigantic, intrusive government that spends us into debt and wields our military resources like a retarded 8th grader with an M-16?
Bush is Republican and on the far RIGHT of the spectrum. We should never want to venture out to the extremes on either side.

El_Kabong

CorporateWhore wrote:

Certainly! Learning from history is incredibly important.

What have american democrats learned from the Great Society programs? Not much. They passed them in the 70s and they never fixed the problem. Whoops!

Liberals don't bother to look at the past to make decisions about government. They use the trial-and-error approach. Oops! Great Society didn't work! Time to try more spending! Oops! It's not helping minorities enough! Time to tax the rich more! Oops! We need to abort more babies!...and on and on and on.

Yes, it would be nice if politicians used history as a guide, but the only politicians that do that are conservatives. Newt Ginrich, Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul...these men frequently quote historical figures when they make arguments for change. Yes, they want change too, but the mark of a conservative is that he wants simple and rational change - not the kneejerk impulsive change of liberal nincompoops.

do you speak in anything other than ridiculous generalizations???

obviously 'conservatives' don't pay attention to history...look at our policy for the past several decades

it's funny you keep talking about liberals spending when conservatives are just as wasteful....how many BILLIONS do we spend on teh war on drugs (created by a republican)??

the republican credo is pretty much 'fix the problem w/ the cheapest, quickest fix!' or ust ignore it

oh, and

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4624622&postcount=19

El_Kabong

CorporateWhore wrote:

Ahh don't you see? The more money you give someone, the more corrupt they are capable of being. The difference is: you trust the government with your money. I don't. I think that the more funding the government has, the more powerful it is.

Liberals might not advocate corruption, but no one does. They advocate funding a corrupt government after many indications of corruption. Why? They just love to give second chances that's all!

so....you are honestly saying no conservative has ever increased government and spending?????

bwahahahahahahaha

El_Kabong

LoveRock333 wrote:

So you use your gun to switch off lightbulbs and open beer cans?

Maybe you use it to just tuck in your kids at night?

Oh, I know, you use it to bring back the dead! Just one shot and it's a ressurection!

Hey everybody! Corporate Whore has a ressurection gun!
Road trip to Ground Zero! But first stop my back yard where I buried my bunny rabbit!

See, I can be sarcastic too.

they should've cleaned up their own mess at ground zero, right corporate whore and mammasan???