A Helpless Unsettling Feeling is Slowly Growing

BetterThanYou

Don't Know Myself wrote:

I don't think Obama getting elected will be bad for race relations in the United States... I think it will be the best thing to happen for race relations in the last 30 years.

There has been remarkably little progress post-MLK, and I think having a black man as our president will only help end racism in this country.

as long as people inhabit this planet, racism will never end.

TDMize15

BetterThanYou wrote:

as long as people inhabit this planet, racism will never end.

Agreed. But there is no doubt that we are better off now than in the 60s... and I think there is still quite a bit of reasonable progress to be made.

Eliot Rosewater

Strangest Tribe wrote:

do you ever venture far from your comfort zone?

Is that how you decided to vote for Obama??

Anon

Strangest Tribe wrote:

there was an interesting thread going this morning that got locked before some issues could be properly addressed.
Makes you wonder what can be discussed around here.

That was fucked up. Hoping someone gets assasinated is completely fucked up.

Strangest Tribe

Pj_Gurl wrote:

That was fucked up. Hoping someone gets assasinated is completely fucked up.

yeah, it was fucked up...

but it got locked down (as it rightly should have been) before I could retort, then it gave me a sick feeling which caused me to start this thread so I could vent some:)

Anon

Strangest Tribe wrote:

yeah, it was fucked up...

but it got locked down (as it rightly should have been) before I could retort, then it gave me a sick feeling which caused me to start this thread so I could vent some:)

Gave me a sick feeling too. I mean i'm not naive, and i know there are freaks out there, hell i see them often in my work, but it just gives me the creeps to know that you can be communicating with people like that, even on a message board. Just really creeps me out. Ugh.

jimlives

I think some people are missing his point. He's not saying that he wants an assassination, he is saying that their is so much racism still embedded deep in the minds of certain people that he sees it as a possibility.
Obama himself and his wife has both commented on a possible assassination but they always say that they cannot think that way because if they did, then they wouldn't be where they are today, trying to bring hope to the free land.
And strangest tribe, there is so much racism still, even in NYC, where I live. It's not just the deep south. There are cases of NYPD officers brutally beating or killing of simply arresting people of color for unjustified reasons. Google the Sean Bell incident.
I think a lot of you don't want to believe there is racism still in our everyday lives (hence: what year are you living in?) and we need to accept that their is and discuss it as opposed to pretending that it isn't there.

CorporateWhore

Obama will be the greatest catalyst for growth in the far Right than any political candidate ever.

I can't wait until he's elected I might just vote for him. I believe David Duke said he hopes Obama wins.

CorporateWhore

jimlives wrote:

I think some people are missing his point. He's not saying that he wants an assassination, he is saying that their is so much racism still embedded deep in the minds of certain people that he sees it as a possibility.
Obama himself and his wife has both commented on a possible assassination but they always say that they cannot think that way because if they did, then they wouldn't be where they are today, trying to bring hope to the free land.
And strangest tribe, there is so much racism still, even in NYC, where I live. It's not just the deep south. There are cases of NYPD officers brutally beating or killing of simply arresting people of color for unjustified reasons. Google the Sean Bell incident.
I think a lot of you don't want to believe there is racism still in our everyday lives (hence: what year are you living in?) and we need to accept that their is and discuss it as opposed to pretending that it isn't there.

Indeed there is racism today and it's being directed at white people. The perpetrators are left wing scum and affirmative-actionites like Barack Obama.

There will be payback for it too. Mark my words. Obama will be the catalyst - he's going to piss off too many people and the american people are going to blame the left wing scum.

I oppose all violence and I would assume that the reason that thread was closed is correct: killing someone only makes them a martyr. That's what happened with MLK.

No, Obama needs to live a long life so we can hear all of the idiotic ideas he has and then summarily reject them.

Anon

jimlives wrote:

I think some people are missing his point. He's not saying that he wants an assassination, he is saying that their is so much racism still embedded deep in the minds of certain people that he sees it as a possibility.
Obama himself and his wife has both commented on a possible assassination but they always say that they cannot think that way because if they did, then they wouldn't be where they are today, trying to bring hope to the free land.
And strangest tribe, there is so much racism still, even in NYC, where I live. It's not just the deep south. There are cases of NYPD officers brutally beating or killing of simply arresting people of color for unjustified reasons. Google the Sean Bell incident.
I think a lot of you don't want to believe there is racism still in our everyday lives (hence: what year are you living in?) and we need to accept that their is and discuss it as opposed to pretending that it isn't there.

I'm not missing any point. The exact words he said were 'one can only hope he gets taken out'

Urban Hiker

Don't Know Myself wrote:

I don't think Obama getting elected will be bad for race relations in the United States... I think it will be the best thing to happen for race relations in the last 30 years.

There has been remarkably little progress post-MLK, and I think having a black man as our president will only help end racism in this country.

I think we have a long ways to go. BTW - racism isn't only white on minority. I've seen it quite the opposite.

There are people in power where I work who have actually STATED that they do NOT want to hire any WHITE people.

There is a diverse population of people who need a shift in their thinking and behaviors WAY before we will see any measurable progress in race relations.

Strangest Tribe

Pj_Gurl wrote:

I'm not missing any point. The exact words he said were 'one can only hope he gets taken out'

PJ Gurl

I think jimlives doesn't know about the other thread we were discussing and maybe there is some confusion. I think the argument is getting jumbled in between the two threads

jimlives... there was another thread this morning where some folk were saying they'd like to see Obama get assassinated but that's not in this thread...we don't feel that way and are disgusted by it...just so you know we are all friendly:)

BetterThanYou

Don't Know Myself wrote:

Agreed. But there is no doubt that we are better off now than in the 60s... and I think there is still quite a bit of reasonable progress to be made.

yup yup.

personally, i don't think anything like an assassination would happen if obama were elected. the security around the president these days is pretty tight. i also don't think someone would want to kill him just because he's black. of course, i could be wrong.....but i'd like to think i'm not.

jimlives

Strangest Tribe wrote:

PJ Gurl

I think jimlives doesn't know about the other thread we were discussing and maybe there is some confusion. I think the argument is getting jumbled in between the two threads

jimlives... there was another thread this morning where some folk were saying they'd like to see Obama get assassinated but that's not in this thread...we don't feel that way and are disgusted by it...just so you know we are all friendly:)

hehe yea, thanks! I didn't know that. I was wondering what thread you were talking about but I thought the assassination talk stemmed from this thread.

beachdweller

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