MySpace Censoring Ron Paul Supporters?

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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    cutback wrote:
    fuck no i'd never do that...........just to let you know i've voted libertarian since 1992 so i think you know where my vote will probably go....

    Ok...and that's cool. But if anyone's vote for Ron Paul was based only on a disdain for Kucinich, Obama, Bush, etc....I'd rather not have it. But that's just me.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Dennis Kucinich is certainly passionate. I'd agree with that.
    I won't argue with you about whether or not he is intelligent ... I think that he is, clearly you do not ... but he IS honorable. I've followed his career since the 70s, I've met him several times, and I've had the opportunity to work with his office on different matters. When he tells you something, you can take it to the bank.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Ok...and that's cool. But if anyone's vote for Ron Paul was based only on a disdain for Kucinich, Obama, Bush, etc....I'd rather not have it. But that's just me.


    totally agree
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I'd certainly agree that both candidates are "injecting promise and inspiration" to a subset of the electorate. And I didn't suggest that both candidates need share similar views.

    Well, I would think you would look forward to seeing Paul back up his positions against an equally intelligent, ground-roots type opponent. Really, debating is the only way to logically explain how your positions will benefit the country, as well as, pointing out why 'the other guy's' position won't. Don't you think your statement was premature? Unless you believe Kucinich might 'poke holes' in Paul's libertarian approach. ;)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    hippiemom wrote:
    I won't argue with you about whether or not he is intelligent ... I think that he is, clearly you do not ... but he IS honorable. I've followed his career since the 70s, I've met him several times, and I've had the opportunity to work with his office on different matters. When he tells you something, you can take it to the bank.

    Hehe...I'm sure you can definitely take what he tells you to the bank. The relationship between those words and that bank are very much where his dishonor lies.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Ok...and that's cool. But if anyone's vote for Ron Paul was based only on a disdain for Kucinich, Obama, Bush, etc....I'd rather not have it. But that's just me.

    Well if it helps him win I'm not going to complain. I understand where you are coming from and would normaly agree but the positives would surely out weigh the negatives if people did vote for him because of that.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    baraka wrote:
    Well, I would think you would look forward to seeing Paul back up his positions against an equally intelligent, ground-roots type opponent. Really, debating is the only way to logically explain how your positions will benefit the country, as well as, pointing out why 'the other guy's' position won't. Don't you think your statement was premature? Unless you believe Kucinich might 'poke holes' in Paul's libertarian approach. ;)

    Debate implies logic, yes. That's why I said it would be effectively pointless.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    mammasan wrote:
    Well if it helps him win I'm not going to complain. I understand where you are coming from and would normaly agree but the positives would surely out weigh the negatives if people did vote for him because of that.

    Those positives do not outweigh the negatives. Mistaking enemies for allies is fatal, and someone who stands only against something will always be enemies to those who stand for something.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Hehe...I'm sure you can definitely take what he tells you to the bank. The relationship between those words and that bank are very much where his dishonor lies.
    Oh, for heaven's sake .... it's an expression. Attempting to have a discussion with you really is more trouble than it's worth :rolleyes:
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Debate implies logic, yes. That's why I said it would be effectively pointless.

    I agree. There are certainly parts of the libertarian platform that are not very logical. ;)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Those positives do not outweigh the negatives. Mistaking enemies for allies is fatal, and someone who stands only against something will always be enemies to those who stand for something.

    Like I said I would normally agree with you but the more votes he gets, even if he does loose, will only shine the light a bit brighter on libertarianism which is a good thing (in my opinion at least). Republican and Democrat, at least current, ideology does not work. We need an alternative to the two and in my opinion Libertarianism is the right one and any postive exposure it receives will only aid the cause.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Just received this e-mail from the Paul campaign

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    May 8, 2007

    ARLINGTON, VA ? Congressman Ron Paul's support has soared since the first Republican presidential debate. Conservative commentator John McLaughlin, host of ?The McLaughlin Group," cited Ron Paul as having given "the best performance of the debate." In fact, the Paul campaign's apparent strength has many other pundits scrambling to explain it. Paul campaign officials offer the following examples of the candidate's rising success.

    Since the debate on May 3, Ron Paul:

    1. Handily won two post-debate polls posted by event sponsor MSNBC.

    2. Placed a close third (18%) in a post-debate poll on the conservative Drudge Report.

    3. Won an ABCNews.com online debate poll with 84%.

    4. Won a C-SPAN online GOP candidate poll with 69%.

    5. Became the third most-mentioned person in the blogosphere, beating out Paris Hilton, according to the reputable Technorati.com.

    6. Produced a YouTube.com video that was ranked the 8th most popular overall video, and the most-viewed political video.

    7. Was featured, by popular demand, on the front of Digg.com.

    8. Generated so many bulletin posts on MySpace.com that the site owner News Corp. blocked all additional posts about Dr. Paul.

    9. Became a "most searched" term on Google and Yahoo!.

    10. Saw a quadrupling of daily visitors to RonPaul2008.com.

    "These figures speak for themselves," said campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Ron Paul has quickly become a strong contender for the GOP nomination because of his powerful message of freedom and limited government."

    -30-

    http://www.ronpaul2008.com
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    baraka wrote:
    I agree. There are certainly parts of the libertarian platform that are not very logical. ;)

    I'd be happy to address any perceived logical inconsistencies in Libertarian ideology, if you'd like.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    hippiemom wrote:
    Oh, for heaven's sake .... it's an expression. Attempting to have a discussion with you really is more trouble than it's worth :rolleyes:

    Thank you for proving my point re: a Paul / Kucinich debate. This is exactly how that would go down as well.
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I'd be happy to address any perceived logical inconsistencies in Libertarian ideology, if you'd like.

    Why don't you start a new thread about Libertarian ideology?
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Thank you for proving my point re: a Paul / Kucinich debate. This is exactly how that would go down as well.

    Come on now ffg, what is exactly the intent of a debate then? You and I have very different ideologies, mine has some similarities to Kucinich, just as your ideology falls in line with Paul. By your logic here, you and I should give up discussing/debating anything.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    baraka wrote:
    Come on now ffg, what is exactly the intent of a debate then?

    To determine truth, of course.
    You and I have very different ideologies, mine has some similarities to Kucinich, just as your ideology falls in line with Paul. By your logic here, you and I should give up discussing/debating anything.

    I don't agree with that. You are a rational person.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    baraka wrote:
    Why don't you start a new thread about Libertarian ideology?

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=4417820
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    farfromglorified wrote:



    I don't agree with that. You are a rational person.

    Well, you certainly know how to turn on the charm, ffg. ;)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Thank you for proving my point re: a Paul / Kucinich debate. This is exactly how that would go down as well.
    So Kucinich would say something, Paul would deliberately misinterpret it, Kucinich would throw up his hands and walk away .....

    yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what would happen :rolleyes:
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963

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