MySpace Censoring Ron Paul Supporters?

edvedder3779
edvedder3779 Posts: 65
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
I haven't tried this myself yet, however, I thought it was worth posting anyway. Will update once I've given it a go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhj-0JsKmA
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  • That's fucked up. Myspace has been such a gift for getting information out there. It's really a shame to see this outlet getting censored, too.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    I don't see a big deal with this. And I actually like Ron Paul.
  • zstillings wrote:
    I don't see a big deal with this. And I actually like Ron Paul.


    Well for one, why are they doing this with Ron Paul supporters? I bulletin for Kucinich all the time and I receive Obama bulletins a lot as well.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    zstillings wrote:
    I don't see a big deal with this.

    Censorship is no big deal, go figure.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    Who the hell is Ron Paul?
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    Well for one, why are they doing this with Ron Paul supporters? I bulletin for Kucinich all the time and I receive Obama bulletins a lot as well.

    That is strange. I think I'm going to use my husband account (he never uses it) and post a Ron Paul bulletin and see what happens.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Well for one, why are they doing this with Ron Paul supporters? I bulletin for Kucinich all the time and I receive Obama bulletins a lot as well.

    I don't really know why. He has about the same shot as Kucinich no matter what the bulletins say.

    Other than that, I don't see a problem with MySpace allowing and not allowing anything really. They won't really allow porn on that site either I don't think. The site can allow whatever it really wants since it is a private site that pays for its own bandwidth.

    Also, has anyone else tried this? One guy on youtube is not a conspiracy to keep Ron Paul down. Maybe some jackass supporters of his (not every supporter, but the kind that nobody really likes) were posting that bulletin from a bunch of accounts that weren't theirs and it was reported.

    There are a few possibilities for this. Overall though, it's not really protected speech anyway.
  • zstillings wrote:
    I don't really know why. He has about the same shot as Kucinich no matter what the bulletins say.

    Other than that, I don't see a problem with MySpace allowing and not allowing anything really. They won't really allow porn on that site either I don't think. The site can allow whatever it really wants since it is a private site that pays for its own bandwidth.

    Also, has anyone else tried this? One guy on youtube is not a conspiracy to keep Ron Paul down. Maybe some jackass supporters of his (not every supporter, but the kind that nobody really likes) were posting that bulletin from a bunch of accounts that weren't theirs and it was reported.

    There are a few possibilities for this. Overall though, it's not really protected speech anyway.

    I have a few Ron Paul supporters on my friends list and they are all bulletining the same complaint with censorship. I'm aware it's not protected by law but it is censorship nonetheless. I'm just wondering what the reasoning is. Maybe the recent success he's been showing has something to do with it?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    Well, I posted a 'Support Ron Paul' bulletin with my husbands account and nothing odd happened, at least not yet. I also see the bulletin post on my page.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I wonder if this was an attempt by a Ron Paul supporter to get a bunch of people to post Ron Paul bulletins just to see what happens.

    Kinda clever, I think :D
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Hoon
    Hoon Posts: 175
    it feeds their paranoia too. The video isn't necessarily real. I do take any censorship seriously though.
    If you keep yourself as the final arbiter you will be less susceptible to infection from cultural illusion.
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    hippiemom wrote:
    I wonder if this was an attempt by a Ron Paul supporter to get a bunch of people to post Ron Paul bulletins just to see what happens.

    Kinda clever, I think :D

    Ha ha. Clever indeed if that's the case. Unfortunately for Ron Paul, my husband's bulletin only went to me, oh and Tom.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka wrote:
    Ha ha. Clever indeed if that's the case. Unfortunately for Ron Paul, my husband's bulletin only went to me, oh and Tom.


    I try so hard not be so cynical in this world...and see where it gets me! :D:p
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    I try so hard not be so cynical in this world...and see where it gets me! :D:p

    Don't ever change that non-cynical outlook, abook! :)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    I didn't have time to watch a video, but this kind of stuff has been happening at a lot of sites. Ron has a huge amount of Internet support since he has been a long-time adversary of government regulation of the internet. Because of this, a lot of technical people have been using systems to try to make blanket appeals and affect the outcome of polls. For example, ABC left Ron off of their post-debate poll and, after receiving complaints, this is what happened after they added him:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BeSeenBeHeard/popup?id=3135373

    ;)

    So this puts the providers in a tough spot. I really don't blame myspace if they're trying to prevent people from gaming their systems. It's just sad since Ron isn't going to get much mainstream media attention and the Internet is the main place for him to get the word out.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Who the hell is Ron Paul?

    Ignorance is bliss, apparently.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Hoon
    Hoon Posts: 175
    Ah yes I was just going to add this about the RP poll problem. That and having all the candidates from all parties listed has been a problem. Especially a few months ago.

    I didn't have time to watch a video, but this kind of stuff has been happening at a lot of sites. Ron has a huge amount of Internet support since he has been a long-time adversary of government regulation of the internet. Because of this, a lot of technical people have been using systems to try to make blanket appeals and affect the outcome of polls. For example, ABC left Ron off of their post-debate poll and, after receiving complaints, this is what happened after they added him:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BeSeenBeHeard/popup?id=3135373

    ;)

    So this puts the providers in a tough spot. I really don't blame myspace if they're trying to prevent people from gaming their systems. It's just sad since Ron isn't going to get much mainstream media attention and the Internet is the main place for him to get the word out.
    If you keep yourself as the final arbiter you will be less susceptible to infection from cultural illusion.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Who the hell is Ron Paul?

    your next president........:)
  • hippiemom wrote:
    I wonder if this was an attempt by a Ron Paul supporter to get a bunch of people to post Ron Paul bulletins just to see what happens.

    Kinda clever, I think :D

    Damn...you're on to me. :D

    Well...I tried it myself and didn't have any problems that I could see. I've logged back on maybe once an hour since and everything seems to be OK. Thanks to anyone who tried it themselves, didn't mean to cause a stir.

    And, while I am a fervent believer in RP's candicacy, I can't think of a better opponent for him to run against than Kucinich. I disagree with his gun ban proposals, but the repeal of the Patriot Act, withdrawing from Iraq, NAFTA, WTO are issues that I can get behind.

    The debate between the two would at least be one of substance, not the hollow & insincere drivel dripping from HilOba MittCain's mouths....
    "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
    -The Duke