Anger is the default emotion ...........

prism

onelongsong wrote:

i agree with you. and this is the place to find anger; hate; and jealousy. look around the web at other forums and you'll see that this is the angriest and most hateful board on the web.

how is life on Sesame Street?

OneLove

Thorns2010 wrote:

The only thing I disagre with is saying that anger is the quickest emotion to arise. I beleive fear is the quickest.

Then again....some would say that anger and fear can be linked very closely.

I agree with you 100%. Fight or flight is a basic aspect of human (or animal) psychology.

I suppose wether anger is the most frequent, or first emotion a person feels is a mater of their own makeup, and their perception of whats around them.

Interesting topic

pickupyourwill

prism wrote:

how is life on Sesame Street?

lol! nice one

musicismylife78

anger is a gift to quote Zack De la Rocha

and further

Anger can be power let fury have the hour, dont you know we can use it, to quote Joe Strummer

Anger to me, is a good emotion. Nothing came out of feeling happy, or oblivious to the worlds problems.

its only when people become pissed off enough to get off their duff and do something about it, that things get done.

Go through any social cause and movement, they were successful and made headway, because they had taken enough crap, and just got fed up.

This gets at a larger issue, is anger inherent in humans.

I dont know. Back before Columbus committed genoicide on the Natives, natives certainly had fights, war and violence, but it was never on the level it is right now.

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

dont get angry? its that easy huh? pardon me but that is horseshit. there are a few people on this board who could attest to the fact that i am not a happy person. and where i am right now i dont even want to be happy. but i do own my anger. i am also made to feel somehow incompetant when it gets the better of me. if something pisses me off you will know about it and i will express that emotion to its fullest extent.
if i 'did not get angry' my head would explode. i know this. ive lived with myself for long enough to realise that supressing my anger is detrimental to my health. to me it does mean i am 'owning' my emotions. i am not gonna pretend that to be angry is abnormal. and i agree it is a base emotion. it is the quickest one to rise within me. sometimes it dissipates just as quickly. other times..well... it is best to steer clear of me for a bit. if by my externally expressing my rage and anger i am somehow less evolved as a human then so be it. i dont give a fuck really. you will always know when i am angry and i will never answer 'nothing' when someone asks me what is wrong. but be warned if you really dont want to know, dont ask, because i will tell you.
oh dont think im happy in my little anger ball.im not. i have tried to ignore it and i have tried to carry on and be 'happy'. but for me it takes a whole lot of my energy to put on some facade to the outside world. it tires me out. but i do suspect that there will come a time when i will be something akin to happy. but right now is not that time.

What is making you angry?

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

What is making you angry?

life. existing. a sense of not belonging.

ForestBrain

lucylespian wrote:

.......... that humans go to whnever they are stressed or confronted in any way.
Anger is hard-wired. It does not need to be taught, or learnt, or conditioned in any way. It is the quickest emotion to arise, and the quickest to be transferred from one individual to another. It is trans-cultural and trans-species. MAke an angry face at a dog and it will display anger in return

Anger requires no thought, in fact it is the emotion of no thought. It is a primitve emotion, the one that protects against threat of all sorts.
It takes intelligence and thought and active effort to respond with a different emotion when you feel threatened.

So, here's the test.

If you disagree with me, how do you express that ????

I disagree with you. It doesn't make me angry. Anger does require thought because you have to think of something for it to make you angry.
What kind of things make people angry?
Somebody disagreeing with you? If that makes you angry it's mostly pride that doesn't want to be proven wrong.
Somebody saying something completely unjustified and rude? Being offended often comes off as being anger.
Somebody hurting somebody or something else (an animal), causes me a lot of anger. I don't think that anger is bad. I think it's good anger and I think it's needed to put an end to some things.
Anger is very natural, and it comes with ease, but not without a thought process.
I have seen proof with my own eyes that people who were not disciplined as children have very little self control.
As a parent, your 95 percent responsible for how your child ends up. You let them get what they want and you don't discipline, you get an adult that has no self-control.
I'm not saying I don't get angry, heck no, I get angry easily, but not when I don't get my own way or when somebody disagrees with me.
I get very angry when I see animals or children mistreated. I get ticked of when people try to manipulate others for their own selfish purposes. I get ticked of when people try to shove their beliefs down other people's throats.
I think you have to teach yourself how to control yourself and how to channel your anger into a soft reply, or heck, don't even say anything. When you yell at somebody, it only adds to THEIR anger and then it just escalates until you have two people screaming at each other.
The only thing I feel threatened by is God, and that doesn't make me feel angry.
When I get scared, it's never anger that arises. I get really quite, still and calm.
When I get offended by a person who...say...says something about me that's not true just to backbite, I'll get mad and make sure they are corrected, but not in a loud way.
If somebody I truly care about says something about (such as, "you're mean") me that hurts my feelings, and I know it's true, I feel bad, not angry, and try to change.

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

life. existing. a sense of not belonging.

You are supposed to be somber about that

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

You are supposed to be somber about that

its not somber im feeling ryan.

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

its not somber im feeling ryan.

Who or what are you angry with? You can't be angry with reality because it doesn't care. Like arguing with a brick wall.

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

Who or what are you angry with? You can't be angry with reality because it doesn't care. Like arguing with a brick wall.

i cant get into this on the open forum ryan.
lets just say i dont know where the anger comes from. but i know it fills my being.

Pearler

onelongsong wrote:

i agree with you. and this is the place to find anger; hate; and jealousy. look around the web at other forums and you'll see that this is the angriest and most hateful board on the web.

what do you think the root of most pearl jam songs is ?

lucylespian

Anger is also the predominant symptom of depression in males, less often in females but certainly happens, very common in depressed teenagers.

I agree that fear and anger are VERY closely linked, to the point here that can be indistinguishable.

Anger is the second stage of the grieving process, reagardless of the source of grief.
Illness grief gives rise to anger which cannot easily be directed against the source, so it frequently becomes re-directed.
I think we have seen this recently.

Anon

Thorns2010 wrote:

The only thing I disagre with is saying that anger is the quickest emotion to arise. I beleive fear is the quickest.

Then again....some would say that anger and fear can be linked very closely.

I totally agree with you! I mean, even Yoda agrees...

Fear is the path to the dark side.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.....

gue_barium

I don't think fear leads to anger. Fear leads to conquering fear.

Anger, and I've read this entire thread, anger is one of the first emotions to be cultured, to be controlled, and it is in that control that I think, in our most most primitive aspects, civilization finds itself today. I think the confusion of fear and anger is empowering to those that employ that confusion.

Jeanie

Pj_Gurl wrote:

I totally agree with you! I mean, even Yoda agrees...

Fear is the path to the dark side.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.....

How bout suffering leads to fear, leads to anger, possibly leads to hate?

Oh and while I'm here, there's nothing wrong with Sesame Street.

gue_barium

Jeanie wrote:

How bout suffering leads to fear, leads to anger, possibly leads to hate?

Oh and while I'm here, there's nothing wrong with Sesame Street.

No, no, no. You're trying to rationalize the simple human simplex. It is what is is, and I'm the Cookie Monster.

Jeanie

gue_barium wrote:

No, no, no. You're trying to rationalize the simple human simplex. It is what is is, and I'm the Cookie Monster.

It was a question not a statement. An alternative to what was already offered.

What would I know about any of it anyway?
I think we've already established this last week or so that my opinion around here is not valid.

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

How bout suffering leads to fear, leads to anger, possibly leads to hate?

yes this a valid statement. it is possibly to become fearful due to suffering. and that fear can lead to anger. and if you become angry enough you can turn hateful. hateful of yourself and those around you. those who try to patronise you and placate you and also those that dismiss you.

dunkman

reading this thread has made me so angry that i just punched a granny in the neck...