I would call taking up an emergency room doctor's time, that could be used to save the lives of other people, because you were too dumb to wear a seatbelt a bit more than just wasting someone's time. To me that is massively arrogant and selfish, and I don't see a reason not to have a law to help prevent it.
So in other words being "massively arrogant and selfish" should be against the law? That's nearly as silly as making anything that "wastes someone's time" illegal.
Ironically, thinking that you're fit to determine for an entire group of people what is a "waste of time" would certainly qualify as both massively arrogant and selfish, so I hope you're building your own cell....
Just out of curiosity, do you think anyone who goes to a doctor's office for a cold should be fined or imprisoned? I mean, certainly that would qualify as a waste of time too. That doctor could be "saving lives"....
So in other words being "massively arrogant and selfish" should be against the law? That's nearly as silly as making anything that "wastes someone's time" illegal.
Ironically, thinking that you're fit to determine for an entire group of people what is a "waste of time" would certainly qualify as both massively arrogant and selfish, so I hope you're building your own cell....
Just out of curiosity, do you think anyone who goes to a doctor's office for a cold should be fined or imprisoned? I mean, certainly that would qualify as a waste of time too. That doctor could be "saving lives"....
So are you against all personal safety laws or just seatbelts. If a guy wants to build his house 10 stories tall with no knowledge of construction is that ok. What about railings on balconies, there are laws that require those, are those taking away people's freedoms?
So are you against all personal safety laws or just seatbelts.
I'm certainly against any personal safety laws wherein the person at risk is the one making the choices about the behavior.
If a guy wants to build his house 10 stories tall with no knowledge of construction is that ok.
Absolutely! Hell, we already let people like you build lawbooks 10 stories high with no knowledge of basic sense. Why not let that guy take his shot at his house?
What about railings on balconies, there are laws that require those, are those taking away people's freedoms?
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honestly, my views on seat belt laws have been based on my experience of dealing with the injuries that can be sustained from not wearing one, and emotions, because i see first hand the consequences of what can happen to you.
if i forget about that, then macgyver and farfromglorified are right. it shouldn't be against the law to be stupid and not wear one. people do stupid things all the time, so where do you draw the line.
i'll never understand why people chose not to though, but i guess that's not the argument here.
honestly, my views on seat belt laws have been based on my experience of dealing with the injuries that can be sustained from not wearing one, and emotions, because i see first hand the consequences of what can happen to you.
if i forget about that, then macgyver and farfromglorified are right. it shouldn't be against the law to be stupid and not wear one. people do stupid things all the time, so where do you draw the line.
i'll never understand why people chose not to though, but i guess that's not the argument here.
Americans never cease to amaze me... you'll allow governments read your email, listen to your phonecalls, arrest people for being 'traitors' for speaking out against these laws... and you accept that no problem. However, introduce a law that will UNDOUBTEDLY save lives (I have no idea how ANYBODY could argue that) and you're all up in arms :eek: (and don't get me started on the whole arms issue either... jaysus!)
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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Americans never cease to amaze me... you'll allow governments read your email, listen to your phonecalls, arrest people for being 'traitors' for speaking out against these laws... and you accept that no problem. However, introduce a law that will UNDOUBTEDLY save lives (I have no idea how ANYBODY could argue that) and you're all up in arms :eek: (and don't get me started on the whole arms issue either... jaysus!)
That's how I feel about smokers.
A restaurant with a smoking section is like a swimming pool with a pissing section
Americans never cease to amaze me... you'll allow governments read your email, listen to your phonecalls, arrest people for being 'traitors' for speaking out against these laws... and you accept that no problem. However, introduce a law that will UNDOUBTEDLY save lives (I have no idea how ANYBODY could argue that) and you're all up in arms :eek: (and don't get me started on the whole arms issue either... jaysus!)
Ain't that the truth!
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Once we're respectful and keep our smoking away from others, we can't harm anybody. Unlike not wearing your seatbelt in a car full of seatbelt users... you could kill them all.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
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So in other words being "massively arrogant and selfish" should be against the law? That's nearly as silly as making anything that "wastes someone's time" illegal.
Ironically, thinking that you're fit to determine for an entire group of people what is a "waste of time" would certainly qualify as both massively arrogant and selfish, so I hope you're building your own cell....
Just out of curiosity, do you think anyone who goes to a doctor's office for a cold should be fined or imprisoned? I mean, certainly that would qualify as a waste of time too. That doctor could be "saving lives"....
So are you against all personal safety laws or just seatbelts. If a guy wants to build his house 10 stories tall with no knowledge of construction is that ok. What about railings on balconies, there are laws that require those, are those taking away people's freedoms?
I'm certainly against any personal safety laws wherein the person at risk is the one making the choices about the behavior.
Absolutely! Hell, we already let people like you build lawbooks 10 stories high with no knowledge of basic sense. Why not let that guy take his shot at his house?
Of course they are.
Cleveland 5/20/2006 Columbus 5/6/2010 Chicago 7/19/2013
Cincinnatti 6/24/2006 Noblesville 5/7/2010. Buffalo 10/12/2013
Lollapalooza 8/5/2007 Mountain View 10/23/2010 Cincinnatti 10/1/2014
Washington D.C. 6/22/2008 Mountain View 10/24/2010 St. Louis 10/3/2014
Chicago 8/22/2008(EV Solo) St. Louis 7/1/2011 (EV Solo) St. Paul 10/19/2014
Kansas City 5/3/2010 East Troy 9/3/2011 Milwaukee 10/20/2014
Hampton 4/18/2016 Columbia 4/21/2016 Lexington 4/26/2016
NYC 5/2/2016
if i forget about that, then macgyver and farfromglorified are right. it shouldn't be against the law to be stupid and not wear one. people do stupid things all the time, so where do you draw the line.
i'll never understand why people chose not to though, but i guess that's not the argument here.
you love me dont you?
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
That's how I feel about smokers.
Ain't that the truth!
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you