To Those who would Vote for Hillary CLinton...

Get_Right

ledvedderman wrote:

A lot of people criticize Hillary for the failure of Hillary-Care in the 90's. That was a great extent of her involvement with the Clinton White House, and soon after that the powers that be decided that she should have a smaller role in the administration.

Is it fair to criticize her because of the failure of her health care plan since she was so involved in the Presidency to run for President based on that experience?

Yes its fair and yes that would be a reasonable basis to question her ability to get things done. But it is also an example of why she might have learned a few things from her experience in the white house, that she would hopefuly benefit from.

Thanks for keeping it rational.

Get_Right

MasterFramer wrote:

I could care less about any of her positions... she's dirty and she is divisive. Lets give someone that isn't quite the institution the Clinton's are a chance. Republicans HATE the Clintons... republicans and independents are voting for Obama when they can. Why wouldn't we all want someone that actually has a chance to bring people together and make some progress. Look at what has happened with this divisive administration we have had for the past 8 years. I can't understand ONE good reason to give Hillary your vote...

Just read this... she's already saying one thing doing another. So shady...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/29/AR2008012902998_pf.html

perhaps you might change your tune if having Hilary in the white house benefitted you personally...perhaps not

ledvedderman

Get_Right wrote:

Yes its fair and yes that would be a reasonable basis to question her ability to get things done. But it is also an example of why she might have learned a few things from her experience in the white house, that she would hopefuly benefit from.

Thanks for keeping it rational.

I can live with that, too.

cornnifer

MasterFramer wrote:

I could care less about any of her positions... she's dirty and she is divisive. Lets give someone that isn't quite the institution the Clinton's are a chance. Republicans HATE the Clintons... republicans and independents are voting for Obama when they can. Why wouldn't we all want someone that actually has a chance to bring people together and make some progress. Look at what has happened with this divisive administration we have had for the past 8 years. I can't understand ONE good reason to give Hillary your vote...

Just read this... she's already saying one thing doing another. So shady...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/29/AR2008012902998_pf.html

Cmon, now, "a certain degree of manipulation" is to be expected. :rolleyes:

the clintons, neither one of them, have any integrity whatsoever. None.

ledvedderman

Get_Right wrote:

perhaps you might change your tune if having Hilary in the white house benefitted you personally...perhaps not

You gonna get a sweet cabinet spot?

MasterFramer

Get_Right wrote:

perhaps you might change your tune if having Hilary in the white house benefitted you personally...perhaps not

Like what? How are her positions that much different than Obama, they are not. What does one gain with Hilary but looses with Obama? I'm interested.

Uncle Leo

cornnifer wrote:

Cmon, now, "a certain degree of manipulation" is to be expected. :rolleyes:

the clintons, neither one of them, have any integrity whatsoever. None.

I am just curious. You are obviously no republican, but you seem to hate Hilary more than all republicans combined. If she wins the nomination, will you vote republican?

I am no fan of hers either and I may vote 3rd, depending on who she runs against.

Just curious.

Get_Right

ledvedderman wrote:

You gonna get a sweet cabinet spot?

hahahaha

wise one

close but no cigar.

cornnifer

Uncle Leo wrote:

I am just curious. You are obviously no republican, but you seem to hate Hilary more than all republicans combined. If she wins the nomination, will you vote republican?

I am no fan of hers either and I may vote 3rd, depending on who she runs against.

Just curious.

If hillary wins the nod, i'll vote for Pedro...





then i'll start checking the housing market in canada.

ledvedderman

My thoughts are that the political bickering in Washington has never been as bad as it was during the Clinton years. Hell, even the Democratic congress has folded to the Bush administration (another subject alone), and I have a feeling a Hillary administration will bring all of that back.

Wouldn't it just be nice to have a candidate who could be a bridge between both sides of the aisles and actually inspire people to get involved in the political process?

Get_Right

MasterFramer wrote:

Like what? How are her positions that much different than Obama, they are not. What does one gain with Hilary but looses with Obama? I'm interested.

like what if you knew there was a good chance you would be the official white house framer if she was elected

ledvedderman

Get_Right wrote:

hahahaha

wise one

close but no cigar.

The funny thing is that you say "cigar" when mentioning a possible Hillary administration.

Wooooooo Weeeeeeee

Get_Right

ledvedderman wrote:

The funny thing is that you say "cigar" when mentioning a possible Hillary administration.

Wooooooo Weeeeeeee

glad you caught that quickly

my faith has been restored

cornnifer

Get_Right wrote:

like what if you knew there was a good chance you would be the official white house framer if she was elected

Just WHO will you be framing for the clintons?

polaris

ledvedderman wrote:

Wouldn't it just be nice to have a candidate who could be a bridge between both sides of the aisles and actually inspire people to get involved in the political process?

what this means to me is more status quo and less change ... to say someone can bridge the gap means that they are gonna try and please everyone ... which means that no actual change will occur ...

MasterFramer

Get_Right wrote:

like what if you knew there was a good chance you would be the official white house framer if she was elected

Honestly? I'd tell her to find someone else. I think the Clinton's are opportunists and do not really care about the country, they care about the Clinton Legacy.

boxwine_in_hell

This is Hilary in a nutshell.

http://slatev.com/player.html?id=1377935786

Get_Right

cornnifer wrote:

Just WHO will you be framing for the clintons?

Starting with the Hillary bashers.

MasterFramer

polaris wrote:

what this means to me is more status quo and less change ... to say someone can bridge the gap means that they are gonna try and please everyone ... which means that no actual change will occur ...

Then you don't fully understand how things get passed though different houses of government.

Get_Right

MasterFramer wrote:

Honestly? I'd tell her to find someone else. I think the Clinton's are opportunists and do not really care about the country, they care about the Clinton Legacy.

I respect your integrity. You would hold fast to your politics rather than make a boatload of money. Admirable.