To Obama Supporters...

macgyver06

He seems to be very popular and getting lots of votes...

what are his huge running points and what does he plan to do when he gets elected??


anyone have a clue about this??

ledvedderman

I think it's fair to say that a large portion of his campaign stems from him being against the war from the very beginning.

From there it pretty much blossoms out into every other Democratic candidate with his own twist on it.

The APPEAL of Barack Obama though is that he seems to be a once in a generation candidate. Someone that can bring both sides of the aisle together to get some real work done if elected. If Hillary Clinton it would just be four more years of brutal partisan bickering in Washington because of the Repubs hatred for anything Clinton.

Telomere

As an American living abroad... He is the one candidate that I believe will once again make me proud of the leadership of my country.

That alone speaks volumes for me.

MasterFramer

Telomere wrote:

As an American living abroad... He is the one candidate that I believe will once again make me proud of the leadership of my country.

That alone speaks volumes for me.

Word.

ledvedderman

Telomere wrote:

As an American living abroad... He is the one candidate that I believe will once again make me proud of the leadership of my country.

That alone speaks volumes for me.

Great answer.

polaris

sounds like he's got a great image consultant ...

DriftingByTheStorm

polaris wrote:

sounds like he's got a great image consultant ...

this country is in pretty bad shape if the PRIMARY requirement for our leader is simply that he be a smooth talker, who can sing songs with his words.

People need to understand, at a FUNDAMENTAL level, what it means to be pro-welfare, or pro-subsidization, etc.

You can't just get all excited because someone promises you "help when you need it" and "reaching out to both sides of the aisle."

If BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE ARE FUCKED, you need to GET RID OF THEM, not reach out to them.

People need to be looking to utterly replace the buffoons in office all over this nation, not support thier "reform". They WILL NOT CHANGE.

Obama will not change them.
He will not change much of anything, as a matter of fact ...

EXCEPT THE IMAGE,
which people here and all over america are guffawing over.

It's pathetic.

I understand people want hope.
And i understand Obama TALKS THE TALK.

But i am willing to bet money that he walks just as crooked as MOST or at least HALF of them.

ALl the assholes who keep saying "Ron Paul is no fucking Messiah" ... "he isn't jesus" ... well NEITHER IS OBAMA> AND NEITHER WAS KENNEDY!

Although at least Kennedy supported GOLD BACKED CURRENCY (but on the other side, he seeming was hooked on his little VIETNAM "war") ... :rolleyes:


Welfare & Warfare, Guns & Butter = STUPID & STUPID, Dumb & Dumber.

ledvedderman

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

this country is in pretty bad shape if the PRIMARY requirement for our leader is simply that he be a smooth talker, who can sing songs with his words.

People need to understand, at a FUNDAMENTAL level, what it means to be pro-welfare, or pro-subsidization, etc.

You can't just get all excited because someone promises you "help when you need it" and "reaching out to both sides of the aisle."

If BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE ARE FUCKED, you need to GET RID OF THEM, not reach out to them.

People need to be looking to utterly replace the buffoons in office all over this nation, not support thier "reform". They WILL NOT CHANGE.

Obama will not change them.
He will not change much of anything, as a matter of fact ...

EXCEPT THE IMAGE,
which people here and all over america are guffawing over.

It's pathetic.

I understand people want hope.
And i understand Obama TALKS THE TALK.

But i am willing to bet money that he walks just as crooked as MOST or at least HALF of them.

ALl the assholes who keep saying "Ron Paul is no fucking Messiah" ... "he isn't jesus" ... well NEITHER IS OBAMA> AND NEITHER WAS KENNEDY!

Although at least Kennedy supported GOLD BACKED CURRENCY (but on the other side, he seeming was hooked on his little VIETNAM "war") ... :rolleyes:


Welfare & Warfare, Guns & Butter = STUPID & STUPID, Dumb & Dumber.

"Playoffs!?!?!"


For the Obama supporters:
Obama raises $32 million in January

polaris

ledvedderman wrote:

"Playoffs!?!?!"


For the Obama supporters:
Obama raises $32 million in January

one could only hope if he becomes president that there is more substance to him then just catch phrases and sound bites ...

MasterFramer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

But i am willing to bet money that he walks just as crooked as MOST or at least HALF of them.

Oh so since you are willing to bet, it must be true? :rolleyes:

But since you have all the answers, what are you doing about it? Running for local office? We need this HUGE chance on both sides right? You leading the charge in your community or are you just here to talk shit and just sound like you have an ounce of credibility?

firstquartermoon

I have all the answers, there's no hope! No one's good enough to run our country! Only Ron Paul can save the day! Close the borders! Kick out the mexicans! Discontinue conversation with other countries that isn't solely Corprately Sponsored!

DriftingByTheStorm

firstquartermoon wrote:

I have all the answers, there's no hope! No one's good enough to run our country! Only Ron Paul can save the day! Close the borders! Kick out the mexicans! Discontinue conversation with other countries that isn't solely Corprately Sponsored!

With all due respect (which is to say, not much is due), you are talking out your ass.

Your oversimplified analysis is well off the mark from Ron's stances.

And if you think illegal immigration is something that should be tolerated, than i have no respect for your opinions anyhow.

Having sympathy for people is important. But having respect for the soverignty of this country and the right of the american citizens to be the FIRST IN LINE for their own fruits is a trump to sympathy for illegal foreigners. Oh boo hoo. The poor mexicans, they come here because we pay them, but then we want to kick them out. Oh boo fucking hoo.

As for discontinuing all talk with other countries? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! RON PAUL GOT BOOED BY YOUR ILLEGAL FUCKING "MEXICAN" BUDDIES FOR SAYING "WE SHOULD TALK WITH CUBA, NOT BAR TRADE WITH THEM" ... YOUR IGNORANT LITTLE "MEXICAN" BUDDIES WHO HOLD A GRUDGE AGAINST CASTRO, BECAUSE HE IS A DICTATOR (not saying their hate isn't warranted, but you are the one saying you want to talk to other countries, but people like you and your mexican friends are the ones BOOING when someone stands up and calls for it) ...

HE FUCKING GOT BOOED FOR STANDING UP AND SAYING LETS TALK, NOT HOLD GRUDGES ...

Again, YOU, and your uninformed opinions are part of the fucking problem.

People on here are proving themselves daily to be more ignorant than i had EVER imagined.

And to MasterFramer, wtf ever. I'm doing my part,and i'm not gonna get in a pissing match over who is more of a patriot. And if you get your little obama-man, well we'll just have to wait and see how he turns the beat around.
That is, IF he gets the nomination. If not, are you gonna back Hillary as our savior?

tybird

firstquartermoon wrote:

Close the borders! Kick out the mexicans!

Doesn't that mean that all the other illegal immigrants from Latin America get to stay? And we just boot the Mexicans???

MasterFramer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

And to MasterFramer, wtf ever. I'm doing my part,and i'm not gonna get in a pissing match over who is more of a patriot.

Well you have it all figured out right...? the answers to the world's problems? We according to you, are all idiots and have no idea what we are voting for. I figured such a genius on the world of politics would be running for a local position in thier community. Run for office, do something about it. You rant on here all day about Ron Paul, do you rant and scream at people you come across in the real world about Ron?

MasterFramer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

If not, are you gonna back Hillary as our savior?

Hell no...

chopitdown

i just want to know where we're going to get the money to pay for his 287 billion dollars in additional spending. He's got some good ideas and he is energetic and engaging, but are up for just more empty promises? Is an additional 287 billion even feasable to do? People it seems want to ignore some of these questions and only look at the ideas, which prob will never come to fruition. The dems ran on honest leadership, real restraints, energy independence, economic prosperity, universal healthcare, and secure retirement. How many have been done...the democratic web page just has examples of misuse by the repubs but hvae nothing, aside from the 2007 auto standards, to claim as even close to fullfillilng those promises. Everyone has nice ideas but know one really has any clue on how to get them done, while not bankrupting our country.

boxwine_in_hell

macgyver06 wrote:

He seems to be very popular and getting lots of votes...

what are his huge running points and what doe she plan to do when he gets elected??


anyone have a clue about this??

What does she plan to do? Is that a Freudian slip?

firstquartermoon

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

With all due respect (which is to say, not much is due), you are talking out your ass.

Your oversimplified analysis is well off the mark from Ron's stances.

And if you think illegal immigration is something that should be tolerated, than i have no respect for your opinions anyhow.

Having sympathy for people is important. But having respect for the soverignty of this country and the right of the american citizens to be the FIRST IN LINE for their own fruits is a trump to sympathy for illegal foreigners. Oh boo hoo. The poor mexicans, they come here because we pay them, but then we want to kick them out. Oh boo fucking hoo.

As for discontinuing all talk with other countries? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! RON PAUL GOT BOOED BY YOUR ILLEGAL FUCKING "MEXICAN" BUDDIES FOR SAYING "WE SHOULD TALK WITH CUBA, NOT BAR TRADE WITH THEM" ... YOUR IGNORANT LITTLE "MEXICAN" BUDDIES WHO HOLD A GRUDGE AGAINST CASTRO, BECAUSE HE IS A DICTATOR (not saying their hate isn't warranted, but you are the one saying you want to talk to other countries, but people like you and your mexican friends are the ones BOOING when someone stands up and calls for it) ...

HE FUCKING GOT BOOED FOR STANDING UP AND SAYING LETS TALK, NOT HOLD GRUDGES ...

Again, YOU, and your uninformed opinions are part of the fucking problem.

People on here are proving themselves daily to be more ignorant than i had EVER imagined.

And to MasterFramer, wtf ever. I'm doing my part,and i'm not gonna get in a pissing match over who is more of a patriot. And if you get your little obama-man, well we'll just have to wait and see how he turns the beat around.
That is, IF he gets the nomination. If not, are you gonna back Hillary as our savior?

Easy there, Tonto.
I'm ignorant because Ron Paul wants to give more money to a dictator? You lash out angrily at me because you want to be first in line in front of illegals, and yet you're not against trading with a country where their leader takes want he wants to gives out what's left to the people?
And the point I was making was that Ron Paul only wants to converse through other countries THROUGH CORPORATIONS, which you proved my point by pointing out that he wants our CORPORATIONS to trade with whomever they want. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but trying to debunk my statement by supporting it doesn't make sense.


And no, I don't think rounding up and deporting twelve million people while leaving our children's educations in the hands of privately funded corporations is the right priority.

Anyway, thanks for taking a facetious comment I made and making unbelievably hostile comments. Good job. Yell and scream instead of calmly making your point.
Thanks.

callen

Telomere wrote:

As an American living abroad... He is the one candidate that I believe will once again make me proud of the leadership of my country.

That alone speaks volumes for me.

nice!

cornnifer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

this country is in pretty bad shape if the PRIMARY requirement for our leader is simply that he be a smooth talker, who can sing songs with his words.

People need to understand, at a FUNDAMENTAL level, what it means to be pro-welfare, or pro-subsidization, etc.

You can't just get all excited because someone promises you "help when you need it" and "reaching out to both sides of the aisle."

If BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE ARE FUCKED, you need to GET RID OF THEM, not reach out to them.

People need to be looking to utterly replace the buffoons in office all over this nation, not support thier "reform". They WILL NOT CHANGE.

Obama will not change them.
He will not change much of anything, as a matter of fact ...

EXCEPT THE IMAGE,
which people here and all over america are guffawing over.

It's pathetic.

I understand people want hope.
And i understand Obama TALKS THE TALK.

But i am willing to bet money that he walks just as crooked as MOST or at least HALF of them.

ALl the assholes who keep saying "Ron Paul is no fucking Messiah" ... "he isn't jesus" ... well NEITHER IS OBAMA> AND NEITHER WAS KENNEDY!

Although at least Kennedy supported GOLD BACKED CURRENCY (but on the other side, he seeming was hooked on his little VIETNAM "war") ... :rolleyes:


Welfare & Warfare, Guns & Butter = STUPID & STUPID, Dumb & Dumber.

i think your just pissed because when RP speaks he sounds like Bush speaking through voice changing software. Mumble mouth motherfucker. So now the ability to actually convey a message in an articulate manner that engages people is a flaw? Please This is the dumbest knock i've heard on Obama (and it isn't just you). Thats how a leader is supposed to speak. Have you listened to him. Tell RP to get his hands off your ears while your blowing him and maybe you will actually hear what the man is saying and realize there is plenty of substance to go with the eloquence.

callen

chopitdown wrote:

i just want to know where we're going to get the money to pay for his 287 billion dollars in additional spending. He's got some good ideas and he is energetic and engaging, but are up for just more empty promises? Is an additional 287 billion even feasable to do? People it seems want to ignore some of these questions and only look at the ideas, which prob will never come to fruition. The dems ran on honest leadership, real restraints, energy independence, economic prosperity, universal healthcare, and secure retirement. How many have been done...the democratic web page just has examples of misuse by the repubs but hvae nothing, aside from the 2007 auto standards, to claim as even close to fullfillilng those promises. Everyone has nice ideas but know one really has any clue on how to get them done, while not bankrupting our country.

How many Billions has this war cost us? We didn't have that money either....not saying I'm for this spending. Plus the house and senate have something to say.

I'm convinced that if we do elect Obama...the value of our dollar will climb....people of the world will flood our economy with $$'s.